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luckyhonu

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I know everyone is so helpful here in the forum so I''m hoping that I get some really great advice. I am a very petite person (5'' tall) and have really small fingers. My pinky ring size is size 1. I know that''s tiny but I want to get a pinky ring that wouldn''t overwhelm my finger. I was thinking maybe an eternity band like Oprah Winfrey. What does everyone suggest?

Thanks for any info.
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Anything that small has to be made custom, but custom made is not a problem to any designer as everything is custom
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I have made many odd sizes over the years, But not a size 1 yet, my smallest yet to date is a size 1.5 but a 1 is no problem. My largest has been a size 17

If you need one made that that is an eternity band it can be done, id recomend thin as to keep it from being overpowering. The most important thing is to keep the size aspect ratio right, Anything that is sized down wont look right. Beyond that any custom jeweler can take a look at any photo or sketch and make X design to your size.

Its definatly a good way to see if a company makes there own goods or are just a reseller of someone elses when asking for such a size.

David Emslie

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I think a pinky ring sounds really cute.

Be sure to post photos if you get this done as I'd love to see how your ring ends up looking on your hand
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Michelle
 
I saw someone with a bezel set diamond - does that look OK too?

TIA!
 
Bezel would look very nice too, just be sure to get excellently cut diamonds because with a bezel setting less light hits the diamonds so they tend to be diminished in light return around the edges and it does make a slight difference in the overall appearance.

Michelle
 
its a common misconception that diamonds are affected by being bezel set. A good diamond or any gem for that matter refects light back though it to give it the amazing colors and sparkle, its bending and playing with light, if the light was comming though the finger they would be more like an LED or a flashlight or lense (see shallow cut diamonds and why they are bad)

If it were true...then why do so many jewelers display diamonds in little black backed cases and black pads. No light is comming though the back of them either...like your finger.

Try it sometime with a lose stone, cut all the light from behind it, keep the same light above...no matter how you hold it, the brilliance will stay the same.
 
That would depend on the bezel set, Dave.

Properly done bezel sets really don't occult much of the edge of the stone at all, but that entails a setting made dimensionally correct for EACH of the stones in a given piece, and then carefully set.

Easy to do as designers since we both make our mountings specifically for a set of stones we already have sitting in front of us before we spec the stone seats - but you have to remember that the commercially made pieces these folks are used to seeing have uniformly sized bezels, and those bezels by neccesity have to be set to the LARGEST diameter of any of the range of stones in their commercial lots. Usually the upshot to this is a HUGE amount of stone is occulted, sometimes way up the kite facets.
This does dramatically affect light return. Most bezel sets do exhibit this.

We get spoiled in our little corners of the mounting market, where 6/1000ths of a mm is an acceptable increment to dial in slop. Don't forget most stuff made for manufacturing is lucky to pull 3/10ths mm even IF they are using decently calibrated stones.


As for the rest of you all, now you see why designers get a little gefrunkt over people who go nuts over researching just the perfect stone dimensions and cuts, then have them mounted in one-size-fits-all commercial mountings half a dozen layers of generation loss below what we throw out as unnacceptable dimensional tolerance and symmetry.....

Hey, Dave, next time we get together over beers we should develop a grading system for mountings similar to clarity ratings for diamonds!
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Oh, I was waiting for such a thread for quite a while. Pricescope is quite good debunking myths about what diamond cut quality is all about... settings were bound to follow.
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Following David's post, I would add one historic fact... foilbacking was around for even longer than faceting as a method to add sparkle to gems. I was thinking for some time what can posibly happen if an ideal cut diamond would be treated this way !!!


I have no idea why people turn away from bezels - which I like so much. A small hart shape bezel ? Sure !

There are so many design types for setting that are pure manufacturing shortcuts (as griffin says) touted as high fashion... really sad. The "high set" diamonds (allowing for mounts and heads to be mass-made off the rack) and "half bezels" (allowing bezel-like mountings to be made en-masse, for variable, non standardized stone shape and diameter). I am not going to mention the horror of "calibrated cut" stones, it just hurts
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Wow, I have never seen or heard of a size 1 before .... would the ring even have a hole for your finger to go through?
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I think a tiny diamond bezel set would look nice, too!
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my pinky is a size 2, and my ring finger a 4. my favorite pinky ring design is something called a gypsy ring for the pinky. custom, they can be done with just the right contour, graduation, and slight dome. classic and beautiful.

as for the designers take on custom mountings and tolerances, i applaud you both. it absolutely amazes me when, on rare occasion, i have the rare client who wants to take a $15k center stone, and thinks it's just fine to set in a commercial mounting.....until they see the difference a handmade mounting makes.....
 
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On 2/28/2004 7:05:34 AM DavidEmslie wrote:

its a common misconception that diamonds are affected by being bezel set.


No, actually, after I had a diamond bezel set, I noticed that since the edges were covered the diamond looked visably different as in it reflected slightly less light and since the edges are covered, there isn't light return around the parameter, therefore altering the appearance of the diamond. (oh, a FWIW, and my mounting was hand made. . .)

Even one member here posted that her PRONG set Regent diamond exhibited less light return after it was covered by eight prongs. . .so if prongs can alter the appearance, so can bezels.

And I don't mean the entire diamond is effected, JUST the edges that are covered; this makes the diamond look different than before mounted into a bezel.

Michelle
 
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On 2/28/2004 12:10:38 PM PlatinumDiamond wrote:

Wow, I have never seen or heard of a size 1 before .... would the ring even have a hole for your finger to go through?
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There's at least one more size one finger... mine
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I love pinky rings, but such a small one would fit a pen ! I didn't dare make a pinky ring, in consequence... maybe after I see this one
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Have you thought of just a simple little pave band of sparkles? I think that could be real cute! Another fun thing could be a smaller rectangulare stone, like an emerald of radiant, set East-West, to give some substance to the finger? It could be in a simple gyspy or bezel ste, or maybe an oval cabuchon set the same east-west?
 
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On 2/28/2004 1:16:59 PM Nicrez wrote:

Have you thought of just a simple little pave band of sparkles?



Pave DOES sound even better than bezel and more proportionate to your size one finger.

Michelle
 
What's a gypsy ring?

TIA
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On 2/28/2004 9:12:05 AM Griffin wrote:

That would depend on the bezel set, Dave.

Properly done bezel sets really don't occult much of the edge of the stone at all, but that entails a setting made dimensionally correct for EACH of the stones in a given piece, and then carefully set.

Easy to do as designers since we both make our mountings specifically for a set of stones we already have sitting in front of us before we spec the stone seats - but you have to remember that the commercially made pieces these folks are used to seeing have uniformly sized bezels, and those bezels by neccesity have to be set to the LARGEST diameter of any of the range of stones in their commercial lots. Usually the upshot to this is a HUGE amount of stone is occulted, sometimes way up the kite facets.
This does dramatically affect light return. Most bezel sets do exhibit this.

We get spoiled in our little corners of the mounting market, where 6/1000ths of a mm is an acceptable increment to dial in slop. Don't forget most stuff made for manufacturing is lucky to pull 3/10ths mm even IF they are using decently calibrated stones.


As for the rest of you all, now you see why designers get a little gefrunkt over people who go nuts over researching just the perfect stone dimensions and cuts, then have them mounted in one-size-fits-all commercial mountings half a dozen layers of generation loss below what we throw out as unnacceptable dimensional tolerance and symmetry.....

Hey, Dave, next time we get together over beers we should develop a grading system for mountings similar to clarity ratings for diamonds!
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It's a hard concept for lots of people to grasp, Griffin. I had a friend recently who bought a fabulous diamond. She found a custom set she loved, but it was $250 more than a manufactured set with a similar look. She quibbled in her mind back and forth. She asked me what I thought. The custom set obviously had more metal and the quality of the make was much better. Finally, she decided for herself that the $250 savings was more important than the overall quality of the setting.
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>Wow, I have never seen or heard of a size 1 before .... would the ring even have a hole for your finger to go through?

Size 1 isn't extraordinarily uncommon. The I.D. of a size 1 is about 12.5mm. To compare to a more common size, a size 6 is about 16.5 mm, only a 4 mm difference.
American sizes actually start at size 0, at 11.63mm - but there are at least three other common sizing standards that get down near that size as well.
 
>>> Size 1 isn't extraordinarily uncommon. The I.D. of a size 1 is about 12.5mm. To compare to a more common size, a size 6 is about 16.5 mm, only a 4 mm difference.
American sizes actually start at size 0, at 11.63mm - but there are at least three other common sizing standards that get down near that size as well. <<<

That's interesting. Thanks for that info!
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>It's a hard concept for lots of people to grasp, Griffin. I had a friend recently who bought a fabulous diamond. She found a custom >set she loved, but it was $250 more than a manufactured set with a similar look. She quibbled in her mind back and forth. She >asked me what I thought. The custom set obviously had more metal and the quality of the make was much better. Finally, she >decided for herself that the $250 savings was more important than the overall quality of the setting.

Wow. I know it happens all the time, but it's hard to put in perspective! For the level of diamonds people on here tend to buy, $250 isn't even one color grade or a few points in size.

There are many reasons to choose good custom mounts considering it is an extremely small incremental cost overall, but you would think people would want the best mounts money could buy even if it was only for the fact that a properly proportioned mount designed for specific stones/ring size/hand shape can make a stone look QUITE a bit more than a couple of points larger than it really is.

The more I look at mounted stones, the more I carry digital calipers, as very properly or very poorly proportioned mounts can fool everybodies eyes, even the diamond merchants, by +/- 10 or 20% or more....
 
Thanks for the advice, everyone. Now I will go and search for the perfect ring for myself
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One cue got lost on the thread... what is agipsy setting ? Here's one
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Wow, I haven't seen to many gyspy rings with diamonds. mostly cabochon cuts of sapphires, rubies and various precious and semi precious. That's cute, especially for a little pinky like out friend Luckyhonu has!




Lucky when you DO get it...PLEASE post pics!!!
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Thanks for the picture, valeria101!

When I get the ring, I will definitely post pictures
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Both are pretty, Honu, but I think I like the band style better. I would worry about spin with the other one. Just MHO.
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Thanks for the pic of the gypsy style, Val!
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Interesting Griffin, that a quality made setting can enhance the size presentation of the stone. That's too kewl! I just liked the idea of the level of quality and workmanship as opposed to the manufactured setting. The custom was obviously more lush and smooth than the prefab job.
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>Both are pretty, Honu, but I think I like the band style better. I would worry about spin with the other one. Just MHO.

I actually really like the single flower design, though I agree that the way it is constructed might lead to spin.
It could still be a viable design, however. That head wouldn't weigh a lot, and it is set low, so a proper shank should resolve that problem easily. European, weighted, and reverse taper shanks would be among the options.

Or, you could go the other way entirely and get a eternity spinner band. Then when it spins it's just cool!
 
Spinning... spinning... actually, that is an issue with "outer finger" rings. There is much more space for the ring to spin with no neighboring finger on the right/left. This is why I surely agree with the band style. At that size, the ring should qualify for a nice pendant on occasions
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I've never heard of a spinning eternity band....I will consider these styles too.
 
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