Naom Carver?

[Nurse-88]

Can anyone reccomend a vendor that carries Naom Carver in Canada or the US.

I’m looking for this setting in particular:
Naom Carver style # is B035-01

Right now Barry’s in Canada carries it at $3100CAD. I’m looking to see if I can save some money getting it elsewhere.

 

[HappyNewLife]

I'd probably just use the store locator option, and make a bunch of calls to find out pricing. I don't see it available online anywhere

 

[rockysalamander]

Can anyone reccomend a vendor that carries Naom Carver in Canada or the US.

I’m looking for this setting in particular:
Naom Carver style # is B035-01

Right now Barry’s in Canada carries it at $3100CAD. I’m looking to see if I can save some money getting it elsewhere.

Would it be worth driving into the US to find something?
https://mrtjewelers.com/designers/n...e-gold-halo-diamond-engagement-ring-5941.html {NOTE: I know nothing about this vendor other than they posted the price on the web}

With a designer setting, I would not expect much price variation within the country.

 

[canuk-gal]

HI:

"Branded" jewellery--often they are excluded from sale and reductions. What RockyS said about variation.

Your other thread could not have been more helpful in providing options. Clearly, you want THIS setting. In short, buy it. Get what you want.

cheers--Sharon

 

[Nurse-88]

I’m open to other settings. We used the try on feature on JA and BN. I’m looking at a .7ct centre stone. I’m not sure these sample “try on” images are accurate because it looks like they’re done with a larger centre stone. That’s my current dilemma. They look great in these images, but how much smaller will they actually be with a smaller centre stone. It can change the whole look.

 

[canuk-gal]

HI:

This style of setting speaks volumes (double halo, pave sides, etc). Smaller ctw center stones, work very well.

Anything here?

https://www.cjex.net/products/root/?filter[]=1

cheers--Sharon

 

[sledge]

I'm not really a fan of double halos personally, but I do think they are a way to get maximum finger coverage for less money. Although honestly, at $3k you are probably talking the same or more money for the setting as you are for the actual 0.7ct diamond.

Just a different way of thinking but what if you got a larger center stone and went with a more economical halo setting?

Maybe this combo -- puts you about $6,500 all in.

Setting:
https://www.jamesallen.com/engageme...shion-outline-pave-engagement-ring-item-49493

Stone:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...d-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4897462

The stone has great potential: D, VS1, 54 table, 34.5/40.6 & 75 LGF's (fat arrows). If interested, place on hold and request an idealscope.

 

[Octo2005]

I’m open to other settings. We used the try on feature on JA and BN. I’m looking at a .7ct centre stone. I’m not sure these sample “try on” images are accurate because it looks like they’re done with a larger centre stone. That’s my current dilemma. They look great in these images, but how much smaller will they actually be with a smaller centre stone. It can change the whole look.

Absolutely, I agree some setting just lend themselves better to a particular size stone! I believe James Allen often shows pictures of recent completed rings on the page for the individual setting. You could scroll through to try and find something similar in size to get a feet for how it will look.

 

[Nurse-88]

I'm not really a fan of double halos personally, but I do think they are a way to get maximum finger coverage for less money. Although honestly, at $3k you are probably talking the same or more money for the setting as you are for the actual 0.7ct diamond.

Just a different way of thinking but what if you got a larger center stone and went with a more economical halo setting?

Maybe this combo -- puts you about $6,500 all in.

Setting:
https://www.jamesallen.com/engageme...shion-outline-pave-engagement-ring-item-49493

Stone:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...d-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4897462

The stone has great potential: D, VS1, 54 table, 34.5/40.6 & 75 LGF's (fat arrows). If interested, place on hold and request an idealscope.

Looks great, but I need to keep the ring at under 5k all in.

 

[sledge]

Looks great, but I need to keep the ring at under 5k all in.

$USD or Canadian dollars?

Have you already sourced a 0.70ct for $2k? Only asking because that setting is $3k. Specs on the diamond you found?

Also, have you considered talking with David Klass (DK) in Los Angeles? He can probably make that setting for less money. I just don't know how much less.

Before I settled on a design for my girl, I had asked him to quote a Mark Schneider designer band that was around $5-6k on his website (best I recall). DK's quote came in around $2k. I'm not saying DK can do this design for half price, so don't get your hopes up. I was just using as a reference point that sometimes he will come in at some really great pricing compared to designer pricing. In fairness, I think the designer band I was looking at was stupid high to begin with so take with a grain of salt.

 

[sledge]

Here are a couple more for your consideration:

0.74ct G SI1 True Hearts, $3,150
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...color-si1-clarity-true-hearts-cut-sku-4369638

Assuming you can find a JA setting you love, you can get 25% off with purchase of this stone. It appears most the stuff you want is in the $1,500 to $2,000 range so this is $375-500 savings for you.

I like this stone quite a bit and maybe it will help you get a better cut stone with good color, and save a few bucks on the setting to boot.

There is a crystal on the middle of the table I don't like but I've zoomed out at approximately 5x and I can't see it with the naked eye. So pretty sure this will be eye clean for you. If remotely interested, I would place this stone on hold while you decide.




0.82 H SI1, AGS Ideal0, $3,050
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...rat-h-color-si1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-3824027

Gives you a little more size, but you need to check on the clarity. Inclusion plot looks nasty. I'd want to make sure it's eye clean before you pull the trigger.

Also, you don't get the 25% off on the setting like you do with a True Hearts purchase.

 

[Nurse-88]

$USD or Canadian dollars?

Have you already sourced a 0.70ct for $2k? Only asking because that setting is $3k. Specs on the diamond you found?

Also, have you considered talking with David Klass (DK) in Los Angeles? He can probably make that setting for less money. I just don't know how much less.

Before I settled on a design for my girl, I had asked him to quote a Mark Schneider designer band that was around $5-6k on his website (best I recall). DK's quote came in around $2k. I'm not saying DK can do this design for half price, so don't get your hopes up. I was just using as a reference point that sometimes he will come in at some really great pricing compared to designer pricing. In fairness, I think the designer band I was looking at was stupid high to begin with so take with a grain of salt.

Canadian dollars.

I will be sending him an email tomorrow. I haven’t sourced anything at all yet.

 

[Nurse-88]

From what I’ve gathered so far, I think I’m going to have to source a more affordable stone. A stone at 4K+ CAD won’t allow me to purchase a setting my partner will like. It looks like I’d have to go with a plain band which isn’t her style.

Any suggestions for much more affordable stones?

 

[Sabrina31]

https://mrtjewelers.com/designers/n...e-gold-halo-diamond-engagement-ring-5941.html
I havent worked with this vendor, and cant give a reccomendation, and i dont know if this is preset or not. but its A little bit cheaper.

 

[Sabrina31]

https://www.adiamor.com/Engagement-...ing-for-Cushion-Cut-Diamond/14KWhiteGold/1710

 

[sledge]

I just ran a quick currency exchange through Google:

• 5,000 CAD = approx $3,850 USD
• That doesn't leave any room for duties and taxes either

As much as she loves that setting, is there something more affordable that she likes? Everyone has different preferences but it seems crazy to have $2,200 to $3,000 USD wrapped up in a $3,850 USD budget.

That barely leaves you any room for a diamond. I will do some searches, but starting to question if we can get to 0.70ct with that budget constraint and need for an expensive setting.

 

[hobbitfancier55]

I can’t remember in your original thread if you were set on a round cut and the 0.70 carats. Not sure if you had color preference either, but i think you should take a look at this DbL cushion double halo. It still has A LOT of finger coverage imo, even at 0.53 for the center stone. Excellent stats when it comes to clarity, polish, and symmetry as well. And would leave you $$ for a band

It is a cushion and not a round, but the setting you love has a square shaped halo, which imo gives the illusion of a cushion anyway.

http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/ind...on-cut-gia-split-shank-double-halo-ring-r5090

 

[sledge]

Some options....again, sticking with the True Hearts @ JA because of the discount. I'm pushing your 5,000 CAD budget with these and stones are dropping to 0.60+ct size.

Setting (2,384 CAD x 75% = 1,788 CAD):
https://www.jamesallen.com/engageme...plit-shank-diamond-engagement-ring-item-50133

Potential Stones (all priced 3351 CAD or less):
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...color-si1-clarity-true-hearts-cut-sku-5221762 (my favorite, love the 34.5/40.8 angle and 55.5 table)

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...color-vs2-clarity-true-hearts-cut-sku-4521826

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...color-vs2-clarity-true-hearts-cut-sku-5221760

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...color-si1-clarity-true-hearts-cut-sku-2785565 (eye clean?)

Edited to Add:
Screen shots of recent 0.5ct and 0.70ct purchases.

 

[kindred]

How about going down to a .50 carat diamond since the setting seems to be the most important aspect?

 

[sledge]

I can’t remember in your original thread if you were set on a round cut and the 0.70 carats. Not sure if you had color preference either, but i think you should take a look at this DbL cushion double halo. It still has A LOT of finger coverage imo, even at 0.53 for the center stone. Excellent stats when it comes to clarity, polish, and symmetry as well. And would leave you $$ for a band

It is a cushion and not a round, but the setting you love has a square shaped halo, which imo gives the illusion of a cushion anyway.

http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/ind...on-cut-gia-split-shank-double-halo-ring-r5090

Very pretty and lots of coverage.

Do you know you and your SO's sensitivity to color? I only ask because as lovely as that ring is, I personally don't like the yellow tint against the more white side stones. You don't get that drastic of a difference on all the angles, but it's there on several of them.

Still...very pretty. Just not my taste preference. However, it's below the USD budget of $3,850. Maybe for that extra $500 USD, they could up the color to an H or I and make it better. If interested, it's worth asking IMO.

 

[sledge]

Don't mean to keep posting back to back -- but honestly after looking at the DBL setup vs that JA setup, I'd probably really try to work something with DBL. The setting and stone all work together and have a more classy and eloquent look I think.

I would still try to bump up the color but think that was a great find by @hobbitfancier55. Of course, I'm a sucker for a round cushion.

 

[kindred]

That JA setting that @sledge posted looks the most similar to your gf's dream ring and it's a great price! If you go down in center diamond size to the .5-.6 range you could get a very nice ring for the money.

EDIT- @sledge posts too fast for me. I think the JA ring is much more similar to the Noam Carver ring than the DBL ring.

 

[Nurse-88]

Very pretty and lots of coverage.

Do you know you and your SO's sensitivity to color? I only ask because as lovely as that ring is, I personally don't like the yellow tint against the more white side stones. You don't get that drastic of a difference on all the angles, but it's there on several of them.

Still...very pretty. Just not my taste preference. However, it's below the USD budget of $3,850. Maybe for that extra $500 USD, they could up the color to an H or I and make it better. If interested, it's worth asking IMO.

Love that ring but right off the bat I can see the yellow, especially compared to the sides. I’m going to send an email asking about the stone, upping the colour.

 

[hobbitfancier55]

Very pretty and lots of coverage.

Do you know you and your SO's sensitivity to color? I only ask because as lovely as that ring is, I personally don't like the yellow tint against the more white side stones. You don't get that drastic of a difference on all the angles, but it's there on several of them.

Still...very pretty. Just not my taste preference. However, it's below the USD budget of $3,850. Maybe for that extra $500 USD, they could up the color to an H or I and make it better. If interested, it's worth asking IMO.

Agree if she is sensitive to color she may notice it. And i agree about asking if she is interested. David could definitely do that setting with a different stone. Something like these could be nice. I love the first cushion. Clarity on the second is SI2, but very white in color.

Love this cut:
http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/index.php/jewelry/73ct-h-vs2-cushion-diamond-r7981

F color:
http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/index.php/jewelry/65ct-f-si2-cushion-diamond-r7963

 

[sledge]

@Nurse-88, if the color doesn't bother you, then I wouldn't pay to up it. I know I am color sensitive, and my girl is even more so than I am. I'm just saying make sure BOTH of you feel the same way, so one or the other isn't always wishing it was whiter is all.

And OMG @hobbitfancier55, that F is just f--n gorgeous!

 

[Nurse-88]

Agree if she is sensitive to color she may notice it. And i agree about asking if she is interested. David could definitely do that setting with a different stone. Something like these could be nice. I love the first cushion. Clarity on the second is SI2, but very white in color.

Love this cut:
http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/index.php/jewelry/73ct-h-vs2-cushion-diamond-r7981

F color:
http://www.diamondsbylauren.com/index.php/jewelry/65ct-f-si2-cushion-diamond-r7963

Does that cut give more coverage?

Sorry, still such a noob!

 

[kindred]

Cushions generally face up smaller than round brilliant. You can check the millimeter size to compare.

 

[SimoneDi]

Does that cut give more coverage?

Sorry, still such a noob!

Cushions generally face up smaller than rounds, but that doesn’t mean that they are bad or undesirable. I had a cushion diamond that I loved and it was J color btw. I will say that there is a difference between color “sensitivity” and color tolerance. For example, I can see color easily but personally chose to ignore it to get the most of what I want - size. Cushions show color more, the better the cut, the whiter the face up will be. Rounds are safer. I would not be worried to drop down to a J in a round in that size especially considering that the profile will be hidden.
Also, JA frequently runs their 25% off setting promotions. You can wait till the next time they do it, not just look to purchase select stones at this time in order to get the promo.

 

[hobbitfancier55]

Does that cut give more coverage?

Sorry, still such a noob!

You would have to compare the exact proportions of each stone. But in general, comparing a cushion of the same carat weight to a round, the cushion usually has larger finger coverage. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong here.

 

[hobbitfancier55]

You would have to compare the exact proportions of each stone. But in general, comparing a cushion of the same carat weight to a round, the cushion usually has larger finger coverage. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong here.

Oops looks like I’m wrong. Ignore