MYSTERY DIAMOND RING! What is this cut and is it worth it?

[cocopop]

I would really appreciate an experts help. I found this diamond ring but the seller cannot tell me anything about it since it came from an estate sale. They want 45k for it but are open to offers. Could I offer 30k? Is this an asscher cut ring ? Is it worth the price? Is it too deep- will it not sparkle?
I will put a picture. Thank you !
GIA
CUT - EMERALD STYLE
MEASUREMENTS: 8.15x7.60x5.61
WEIGHT: 3.05
DEPTH: 73.8%
TABLE: 67%
GIRDLE: slightly thick
CUTLET: none
POLISH: VERY GOOD
SYMMETRY: VERY GOOD
CLARITY: VS2
COLOR: H
flourescence NONE

 

[Gypsy]

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They can't tell you ANYTHING? Okay. Then you meet them at an appraiser and pay for the appraiser to look at it and tell you. There is no way in heck I would pay 45k for ANYTHING without more information. https://www.pricescope.com/appraisers This will help you find a local appraiser. If they are not local to you, get a return policy in writing, and buy it and take it to an appraiser. Make sure the appraiser is independent and does not work at a jewelry store. This is important.

That said. It's an asscher cut diamond. But one that is out of square most likley (length to widthratio higher than 1.5). With just the one flat pic I can tell you it's worth investigating if the carat weight is up there. I have no idea what the carat weight on the center is. The setting is a baguette halo. They are expensive settings and hard to get right. This one is almost right except for the wonky inner bezel. The shank is pave, but not well done. Overall, I'd place the value of that setting in the 7k-8k range and that's generous for the bulkiness of the execution (depending on how large the center is, cause that would make a difference on how big the diamonds are which would impact value) if it's platinum and the rest of the value would be for the center stone. Which means, to me that center stone better be in the 3 carat or higher range for me to even consider it or super high color and clarity at 2 plus carats. I can't tell color and clarity from the pic but it looks clean and white-ish. It could be anything from a K to an F and that makes a huge impact on value as well.

Here's a vintage ring for a similar price that I personally drool over and would kill to own. Just to give you perspective. http://www.ebay.com/itm/290690804613?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 I do think it's overpriced though for the carat weight. But that said, this seller is usually pretty good about judging color so with the high color it's retail price, so not a steal. But not a rip off either.

 

[cocopop]

Re: MYSTERY DIAMOND RING! What is this cut and is it worth i

Thank you Gypsy!
I have updated the details of the ring in my original post. They are no where near local, they are in another country!

 

[Gypsy]

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Okay that helps A LOT.

Let's use this stone as a gauge for the stone's price: http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Asscher-Diamond-1441778.asp Same color and clarity. Great spread and a decent looking stone (though cut to hit 3 carats).

As you noted though, yours is over deep. NOW, with asscher's that's usually okay in terms of performance and the stone looks pretty. And with asscher's the depth doesn't impact performance the way it does with rounds for example. BUT it does mean the stone should be discounted. So I'd knock 2-3k off of that price for the depth.

So let's say the RETAIL value of that stone is around 31,000-32,000. Now like I said, I'd put the retail replacement on that setting around 7k. But honestly with second hand pieces the value of the settings (unless they are really something amazing, designer or whatever) are greatly discounted. To the extent that when *I* am shopping for a piece I ignore the value add of the setting altogether.

SO MY THOUGHTS are: Unless you can get it for under 32,000 it's not really worth it to me. And honestly, since I'm frugal... 30K is where I'd be more comfortable. Which is you were leaning. So we're on the same page.

Otherwise: You could buy that JA asscher or similar and have that setting custom made, a lot more nicely as well, for 7k and have a brand new gorgeous ring for yourself.

NOW: Please remember I am not an appraiser. I'm only giving you my thoughts on what my process would be if I were trying to make this decision and I couldn't go to an appraiser.

 

[Christina...]

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Gypsy, that ring is gorgeous!!!! I so wish that had clipped the corners!

cocopop: your ring is delicious too! Will you be keeping the diamond in the original setting?

 

[Gypsy]

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Gypsy, that ring is gorgeous!!!! I so wish that had clipped the corners!

cocopop: your ring is delicious too! Will you be keeping the diamond in the original setting?

Isn't it though Christina? I usually prefer clipped corners but this is the ONE ring, and I think it's because of the overall ring including that setting which is just perfect for it, that I am okay with the square corners on. I would love to buy that one. Overpriced though I think it is, I also think it's unique enough to be worth a little extra IF it bears out at F VS, that is.

ETA: First time I noticed that one from ebay has an EGL certificate. Okay so it's not an F it's an H. Then it's just flat overpriced. Darn it.

 

[cocopop]

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Thanks Gypsy,
That makes me completely rethink this diamond ring.I think it's the fact you said it was wonky! The side baguette diamonds are about 2.5 carat. Does this make any difference to the price? Should I offer 25k? Or should I not even bother? It is a lot of money and I do not want to invest badly..

 

[Upgradable]

Re: MYSTERY DIAMOND RING! What is this cut and is it worth i

I may just be in a grumpy mood this morning, but I smell something fishy.

The mount does not look at all vintage to me. The finish on the underside is very rough. I would not expect that with a period piece. Then there are the little photoshopped "stars" that are added to the baguette halo. Blech! This means they weren't beyond photoshopping the image. And the stone's proportions look awkward. Culet is off center, and I don't like how the bottom right windmill looks. There may be a black carbon gooby there that is being reflected around. Take a look at the side shot too. I can still see it.

And what does the seller mean by stating GIA? Does that mean that it has a GIA document? I'd want the number to check out its legitimacy. Probably just means that someone with some GIA schooling has looked at it at some point. Totally not the same thing.

In my eyes, all it has going for it is size. And for the $45k, . Well, now you've got my opinion.

 

[cocopop]

Re: MYSTERY DIAMOND RING! What is this cut and is it worth i

Yes Christina, I was going to keep the diamond in the setting because I just love it! I wonder how old it is?

 

[cocopop]

Re: MYSTERY DIAMOND RING! What is this cut and is it worth i

Thanks so much! Eeek! That helps! I am so blind to these things!

 

[elliemay]

Re: MYSTERY DIAMOND RING! What is this cut and is it worth i

I may just be in a grumpy mood this morning, but I smell something fishy.

The mount does not look at all vintage to me. The finish on the underside is very rough. I would not expect that with a period piece. Then there are the little photoshopped "stars" that are added to the baguette halo. Blech! This means they weren't beyond photoshopping the image. And the stone's proportions look awkward. Culet is off center, and I don't like how the bottom right windmill looks. There may be a black carbon gooby there that is being reflected around. Take a look at the side shot too. I can still see it.

And what does the seller mean by stating GIA? Does that mean that it has a GIA document? I'd want the number to check out its legitimacy. Probably just means that someone with some GIA schooling has looked at it at some point. Totally not the same thing.

In my eyes, all it has going for it is size. And for the $45k, . Well, now you've got my opinion.

This. Granted, I don't have a whole lot of experience buying jewellery, but seeing those little photoshopped stars on fine jewellery makes me gag. Surely something "worth" 45k is nice enough without them having to stick sparklies all over it!

Coco, your best bet, if you're still interested, is to ask them for the GIA report number -- if they can't give it to you, walk away. If they can, well, at least then you know you have some genuine information on which to base your offer (should you choose to offer!).

 

[cocopop]

Re: MYSTERY DIAMOND RING! What is this cut and is it worth i

This is the actual document that was supplied with the ring.. I don't know if it's a fake? I asked for additional pictures and i got this picture today

 

[Gypsy]

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Thanks Gypsy,
That makes me completely rethink this diamond ring.I think it's the fact you said it was wonky! The side baguette diamonds are about 2.5 carat. Does this make any difference to the price? Should I offer 25k? Or should I not even bother? It is a lot of money and I do not want to invest badly..

Okay so... let me give you a little perspective.

That is a halo that is 10mm by 10mm and that bezel (which is where I said the wonk is) is 8 x 8 ish.

I am a person that spent THREE YEARS agonizing over every.single.detail.possible. with that specific style of setting. Seriously. Just search for the words "baguette halo" and you'll see my name in over 40 threads AT LEAST on the topic. And ultimately I decided against that style because I finally got to a place where I understood that with a design that is as geometric and exact as that if I wanted it done and done to *my satisfaction* it would cost me a LOT of money (those baguettes all have to be custom cut) and a lot of stress and there weren't ANY vendors at that time that I would have trusted to do that setting *to my satisfaction*.

I am not generally one of the overpicky OCD crazy posters on here. I don't eat and sleep with my 30x loupe. But with this one particular style I am really super fussy. Probably of the 100's of PSers we have I am the single fussiest and pickest one possible on this type of setting.

And those are HUGE MAGINIFED PICS. PLUS, there is a good chance that a great bench could polish that wonk out of that bezel entirely, when I look at that. That said, I don't like the finish work on the polish of the gallery and the shank either so I would want the entire ring re-polished by someone REALLY anal and good. That's an EXTREMELY cheap repair. even at the most expensive place possible. Max 250 bucks if the person can get a mirror shine out of the platinum and spends the time needed to finish the setting as it should have been done the first time. If they really want to really charge you 500 but if their finish work was good enough, I'd totally let them do it even at that price. Heck, I'd pay up to a 1000 to have that finished perfectly if I loved the style of it enough.

The symmetry of the baguettes and the outside bezels are perfect. And the structure is great. The pave is secure. I don't really care for it's execution. But again, that's in the magnified pics. The stones look great and in life size it might be beautiful. My own pave wedding band looks like alien prongs are eating my diamonds under magnification, but in real life it looks beautiful and I get compliments on it.

Now, does the carat weight of the baguettes matter? The answer is... it depends. An appraiser would absolutely take it into account when formulating the value of the ring. But the question the appraiser would have for you is... what value do you want them to calculate? Retail replacement? Well, you aren't buying a new ring. Fair Market value based on condition-- depends on the market. But you aren't an appraiser.

It will matter to the seller. And I can tell you that except for the finish issues and a little more metal than I personally like that setting is a very solid example of that type. So new it would easily cost you 7k. Whether or not you take that into account is up to you. Why? Because you are the one paying for it and you are the one who needs to place a value on it.

I can only tell you that if you are planning to keep the ring as is, and you love the ring INCLUDING the setting then yes, the price of the setting may be relevant to you.

If it were me, I wouldn't want to be the first one to throw out a price.

To get your price I would use the following points: I would point out the finish issues and the bezel wonk (don't say that you can get it fixed, because I can't guarantee that you can it depends) and that the setting looks like it has finish issues in the bridge area where the shank meets the halo. I might pull up the JA stone for a comp and say... this one is 34k but it's NOT over deep and industry standard is that overdeep asschers are discounted and so this one is worth LESS than the one on JA. And say that you have gotten an estimate that a similar setting would cost you 7k to do which means that their asking price is OVER RETAIL.

Ultimately the best negotiation scenario is for them to throw out a price first, then wherever that is... make a counter offer for lower using the arguements above (don't use all of them at once, just pick and chose the right one for whatever argument you want to make. SO for example: if they say the diamond is worth XXX you counter with the actual JA comp and then mention the over deep issue. And say that it's a second hand ring. If they say the setting is worth XXX you say your estimate is 7k and that again, it's a second hand piece and a second hand market is NOT the same as a new retail one for pricing. They say that the setting is amazing and you won't find better, you tell them that it has issues and tell them what those are, and tell them you can have one made that is custom made for you, so you can tweak it to your tastes, and that is brand NEW for 7k. That's how negotiations work).

All of that negotiation stuff comes with a caveat. Most Westerners do not know how to negotiate. I'm a Contract Negotiator and I can tell you that Americans are some of the worst negotiators. They get upset and emotional and have no idea how to give and take. So how successful you are with your negotiation really depends on how well you can read the other side and anticipate what they are thinking and doing. And that's really hard.

 

[Gypsy]

Re: MYSTERY DIAMOND RING! What is this cut and is it worth i

I may just be in a grumpy mood this morning, but I smell something fishy.

The mount does not look at all vintage to me. The finish on the underside is very rough. I would not expect that with a period piece. Then there are the little photoshopped "stars" that are added to the baguette halo. Blech! This means they weren't beyond photoshopping the image. And the stone's proportions look awkward. Culet is off center, and I don't like how the bottom right windmill looks. There may be a black carbon gooby there that is being reflected around. Take a look at the side shot too. I can still see it.

It does look like a more recent setting (2000 and newer) and I suspect that 'antique' or 'estate' labels are just a pretty way of saying it's USED and SECONDHAND but we don't want to charge used prices so we are saying "antique and estate" to overcharge you. It's not a true antique. The style is Deco. The piece probably IS second hand. But none of that makes it antique, or vintage. And buying it at an estate sale doesn't make it that way either. AND-- that is another argument you can make to justify your pricing negotiations. It's not antique or vintage. It's just used. Period. So that means... doesn't qualify for retail pricing.

If the stone is NOT eyeclean (and VS2 at 3 carats may not be) all my pricing estimates are out the window. Because I would not want a 3 carat asscher with a black carbon inclusion that is eye visible at near retail prices. BUT the GIA plot doesn't show carbon, so I suspect you are okay and the stone is eyeclean. Still worth asking the question. The stone does look photoshoped, and I meant to say that earlier but I forgot. FIRST THING is ask for the UNEDITED picture files of that ring. And if they say they don't have them: tell them for the price they are asking they can take them again and send them to you unedited when they have them.

That pic of the ring on the hand was very helpful. That's the best one to judge how the setting will look in real life. And like I said, It needs to be re-finished. But that's a doable repair. And it's a solid example of that design.

ETA; GIA DOCUMENT IS REAL. Report number is listed. If you can't read it ask them to give it to you. But the document is real. It is strange that it's not a 'square emerald cut' but that might be because the ratio doesn't qualify as square-- and honestly probably that is the reason why it's just 'emerald cut' --- because it's not square. Still it's an asscher not an EC to ME because the culet comes to a point not a keel.

ETAA: Even if the thing is just used. I am still at 30k being what I would comfortably pay for it. As long as it's eyeclean. The rest of the information is just negotiation fodder for me and stuff you need to be aware of, but it doesn't change the value of what I would pay for it, personally. As long as it's eyeclean... 30k is where I would fine at. If you can get it for less than that, even better. BUT as I said Americans are terrible negotiators. That means if these people ARE bad negotiators they might have overpaid THEMSELVES for the thing, and that means they won't go below their cost, so you may not get the ring at what I said I think I would pay for it.

 

[cocopop]

Re: MYSTERY DIAMOND RING! What is this cut and is it worth i

Thanks everybody! This has been woderful advice!
I will ask for the unadorned picture... it has made me re think this ring though! You are right why would they photoshop the little stars on it!
And the old lady has this whole innocent thing going on.. So i hate to think they are hiding a carbon blob!

 

[Gypsy]

Re: MYSTERY DIAMOND RING! What is this cut and is it worth i

Thanks everybody! This has been woderful advice!
I will ask for the unadorned picture... it has made me re think this ring though! You are right why would they photoshop the little stars on it!
And the old lady has this whole innocent thing going on.. So i hate to think they are hiding a carbon blob!

Okay. Wait. That GIA document shows NO carbon at all. I would put that WAY above Upgradables eyes or an individual HUGELY magnified photo. I mean that. I would expect to see unedited photos before I bought just because that's smart. But from the certificate I am really thinking there is no carbon. It only shows a cloud where Upgradable says she sees carbon and god knows that could just be a reflection from the environment or the camera or just dirt or dust being reflected. From the certificate I would say the feather is the grade setting inclusion. Again, NOT carbon. So please, keep that in mind. The stars are ridiculous but if she had too much acid in the 70's they could look really pretty to her, and not be anything unscrupulous. And the 'estate' versus 'used' thing is just marketing. She didn't SAY it's an antique. She said it's from an estate sale. That's might be true. And it 'suggests' antique, which is why it's a good marketing word, but it's not a lie if that's where she got it. And all we wanted you to know is that the ring is used, but not antique or vintage so you would be able to make an educated choice. That's all.

It's our job to help you make an INFORMED decision. All that information coming at you all at once can be scary. I know (it happens to me whenever I post on the Colored Stones Forum and I've been here 6 years!) that. But we just want to make sure we point out things to you so you can decide what is and what isn't okay with you. That's all. On THIS board we don't really post positives. We don't post "I love it" or "it's beautiful"... and you already got one comment like that from Christina and she's a GREAT poster with a very good eye. This board, Rocky Talky, is to make sure we point out all the flaws so we know YOU know what they are before you buy them. That doesn't mean that flaws mean that something is unacceptable. NO. It just means that YOU need to decide what "flaws" you can live with and what flaws you can't.

I can honestly say that for the right price I would be fine buying that ring if I wanted a baguette halo. I really do. And I'm picky with asschers AND with baguette halos. All of the 'flaws' this one has are acceptable to me. Given the right price. There are no huge red flags. I'm not trying to talk you into anything. But I also want you to understand the context of the remarks you are receiving.

 

[cocopop]

Re: MYSTERY DIAMOND RING! What is this cut and is it worth i

Thanks Gypsy you are awesome! I read it to my boyfriend and he said : Geez , that Gypsy is great maybe she wants to come work for me and be our contract negotiator!
He doesn't know the first thing about diamonds so he is happy to give me the lead in this. I do like this ring, I wonder if this lady has small hands though, this ring looks very big on her, but i'm 5'9" and have quite long fingers..
One last thing. When you said it was quite a lot of metal for your liking did you mean that the setting itself is not very fine? Is it just really clunky? I wonder if that setting is just really not delicate enough. But i am quite a busy girl and we have a kid so i'm scared of the ring being too delicate. Do those baquettes pop out? I do like how the centre diamond is set in like that and not prong, it looks really secure!
Again thank you so much! We are such novices at this! We just decided to get married after 8 years together and are kind of fumbling about this whole thing!

 

[Gypsy]

Re: MYSTERY DIAMOND RING! What is this cut and is it worth i

Thanks Gypsy you are awesome! I read it to my boyfriend and he said : Geez , that Gypsy is great maybe she wants to come work for me and be our contract negotiator!
He doesn't know the first thing about diamonds so he is happy to give me the lead in this. I do like this ring, I wonder if this lady has small hands though, this ring looks very big on her, but i'm 5'9" and have quite long fingers..
One last thing. When you said it was quite a lot of metal for your liking did you mean that the setting itself is not very fine? Is it just really clunky? I wonder if that setting is just really not delicate enough. But i am quite a busy girl and we have a kid so i'm scared of the ring being too delicate. Do those baquettes pop out? I do like how the centre diamond is set in like that and not prong, it looks really secure!
Again thank you so much! We are such novices at this! We just decided to get married after 8 years together and are kind of fumbling about this whole thing!

First, you are welcome. I'd love to work overseas. Just tell him to send me a Visa. LOL.

Seond, we're back to context on the metal issue. I think there is too much metal because the finish is sloppy and I don't like that inner bezel. It's not crisply octagonal and even like the outside bezel is. Polishing it up and finishing it will remove some metal that needs to go and also what metal there is will be much less noticeable once the platinum has a proper shine. Poorly finished platinum can make a setting look more metal-ly than it needs to. I do think this is a CAD/CAST piece. And I think for the symmetry that is required that is a smart method of fabrication. And finish is an easy repair for a skilled bench. I think that after it is finished and polished the metal appearance will be much reduced.

Baguettes. Okay. I don't think popping out is a problem. You will want to have the ring appraised once you get it and also have it checked for any of the stones being loose and if they are have the bench refinishing it take care of that. Cracking one might be something you really want to avoid though and it is possible. But you can crack any diamond or stone if you hit it right. If you get insurance and have a great bench for repair you'll be okay there too.


Congratulations on the marriage.

As to how it will look on your hand. Ask the woman for the total measurement of the head of the ring, with the halo. It should be around 14mms or so square I think. Maybe more, maybe less. Then cut out an octagon of that same measurement out of paper and use tape to stick it on your finger. See what you think. I swear to you, we've ALL (the regulars) done the stick the paper on your finger thing to get an idea of size at least ONCE. Some even have pictures on PS to document it.

 

[cocopop]

Re: MYSTERY DIAMOND RING! What is this cut and is it worth i

You rule ! Thanks so much! Going to do it now!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Re: MYSTERY DIAMOND RING! What is this cut and is it worth i

Sorry if I missed this information:

How is this being sold, via a site like ebay?

Is there a return policy in place? How long is the inspection period?

Is the seller a jeweler or reseller who regularly sells jewelery? Or a private seller (a person like you or me)?

Can you obtain shipping insurance from your own country to return the ring if you do not like it?

Will they ship to a US based appraiser not directly to you?

All of that aside I am not crazy about this stone. In the original vendor shots the center does not loo crisp and the steps uneven. In the hand shot if you soon the same issue in the center of the stone seems to be present, where the inner quadrant looks a little dead to my eye. The setting also looks clunky in the hand shot.

What are you looking for exactly with this purchase? A deal? Do you want a ring like this or you like this ring because you found it?

 

[Karl_K]

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The basic facet pattern is original Asscher cut also called square emerald.
However because it is off square GIA properly calls it an emerald cut.
It is deep which in this case because of the larger table costs you face up size.
With a 30% table that depth would not be an issue.
The larger table gives you fewer small flashes and more larger flashes.
The crown height from the photos looks pretty good which is a good thing.
The table size depth and face up size all would cause a discount in the market price.
Overall from what can be told from the photos I would guess that the face up appearance is nice in diffused/office lighting.

I am also concerned about the eye visibility of the inclusion, non-eye clean vs2 is possible in this size.

The setting looks to me like a modern replica and not a period piece, but that is based on one image and not a solid opinion.

In my opinion the JA comp Gypsy found would sell for considerably more than the stone in question because:
It is square, under 70%depth, smaller table. (even with marginal p3s which the industry as a whole doesn't deduct much for)


Bottom line if your interested and can work out a low price make it dependent on a review by an independent appraiser and get an in person opinion from an expert.

 

[vintagelover229]

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I love asscher halos likek that one! I have one saved on my PC (no clue who it belongs to-probably one from an antique site I can no longer find) but I also have a unique one saved on ebay that is a very unique cut I'll link below.


If you can find a unique asscher you could go the custom route for the setting and get 100% what you want. If you want a true antique it might take some searching if this one doesn't pan out for you.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Art-Deco-c-1910s-Very-Rare-HEXAGON-ROSE-CUT-DIAMOND-SAPPHIRE-PLATINUM-RING-/280779348366?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_with_Accents&hash=item415fc0d98e

 

[denverappraiser]

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Thank you Gypsy!
I have updated the details of the ring in my original post. They are no where near local, they are in another country!

Lots of good advice above by Gypsy and others. I have a few questions.

Where are they?
Where are you?
How are planning on doing the logistics of this deal if you do it (Will you show up in person, will you wire money and they'll FedEx it to you, escrow through an appraiser or some other sort of service, something else entirely?).
Is this a dealer?
What are the terms and conditions on the sale?

 

[MichelleCarmen]

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Hi,
The ring has been photoshopped with little stars/sparkles. Really, that is reason enough not to buy it! It looks like there are visable inclusions in the diamond in those photos, but maybe I'm just seeing things! It's like the little sparkle additions are their to distract a potential buyer from seeing them.

 

[ChezJacqueline]

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Ok I am new to this site and been lurking for quite some time. I appreciate your honest comments Gypsy! Not to mention I am hooked on that eBay seller..TDF!

 

[Gypsy]

Re: MYSTERY DIAMOND RING! What is this cut and is it worth i

Okay so... I had a friend look at it for you and they are very experienced with settings and such. They said that the setting is handmade not cast. They echoed the wonk and the finish issues and highlighted a couple of other things I had noticed as well. It's solid and it will stand up to wear but it does need some work. And they agreed with Karl about the center stone. And they said the ring might be from the 80's.

So... what that says to me: the ring is solid and at the right price I would still buy it. 30k is now the ceiling though not the floor, though. So I wouldn't pay more than that.

AND I would say that *IF* I had 42k ish to spend in my budget. I don't know what your budget is mind you, but IF I had that much flexibility I would be much more likely to buy the JA stone and go for a custom version off this setting instead.

Here's a pic of the baguette halo I designed but never had made: (the pic is photoshopped together from a bunch of other pictures so there is wonk)

ETA; Thank you Chez!

 

[Christina...]

Re: MYSTERY DIAMOND RING! What is this cut and is it worth i

I still think that at the right price this could be a very nice ring. I agree with Gypsy and the others that there are finish issues with the setting and that is why I asked if you would be keeping it. but finishing the ring isn't a huge fix. I was also a bit concerned about the depth of the stone, but after hearing KarlKs report I would be confident enough to move ahead. if the price was right.

Asschers are hard to photograph and I think that these photos are just plain bad. I have an asscher, well I did until today, and photographing it was challenging, some days it behaved and others it didn't. I have a ton of pictures of it looking dull and lifeless and I never ever felt that it looked that way in person. They do perform much differently that a brilliant cut, so I wouldn't put a lot of emphasis on it looking a bit dull in these photos.

The GIA plot looks great too, so I'd be very surprised if it had a carbon inclusion. I went back and tried to see what other people were mentioning and seeing and I just couldn't. One of the baguettes looked grainy to me, but that may not be the case. But I do think that gypsy made another really good point, if you want this ring because it's unique and you love it and can get it at a great price then I think it's worth pursuing. But if there are things about it that you don't love and would want to tweak, and it's in your budget then you may want to consider the James Allen stone and wonderful bench to custom make you a ring to your specs.

It sounds as though you have a fantastic budget so you are fortunate in that you have several options.

Gypsy: An H is still white enough for me! Lets negotiate to 30k on the ebay ring, split it and work out a custody arrangement.

 

[MizNina]

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Such great advice Gypsy

Jus wanted to say thatI think it is a BEAUTIFUL ring!

 

[cocopop]

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OMG Vintage lover!!! I love the ring you posted a picture of!!! I think I want to make this ring instead! Swoooooon! The baguette halo and baguettes on the sides. Wow ! Amazing ! Thanks for posting that! It is so gorgeous and definitely an inspiration!

 

[cocopop]

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denverappraiser, We are in Australia and they are in America! It is an Ebay thing..