TooMuchInformation
Rough_Rock
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So, here''s the more detailed version of my earlier post about an "Emerald" ring that my mother has. I''m fairly sure that it was purchased by my father somewhere in Equador - he works overseas, and very likely from a less than reputable dealer.
Anyways, I''m having a close look at this ring (because I''m now at the point where I need to look at any peice of jewelry that I see with the loupe), and something strikes me as odd, but I can''t place it. I washed the ring in hot water with a toothbrush, and brought it back to the loupe.
I almost died. What was previously a deep green now shows many areas of VERY dull green to the point of white/transparent; perhaps similar to glass. Intruiged, but a little frightened that I might have damaged the stone, I continued to look at it with the loupe for about 10 minutes. What I saw was VERY interesting - it looked like a doublet/triplet (thanks for the reminder on this term mogok)!
- When viewed from the top/table, it looked like a diamond through a green ideal-scope showing a LOT of leakage (sorry for this crazy analogy), this was after washing the stone, and as it dried, this effect seemed to lessen somewhat, though never appearing to go away completely.
- The only visible inclusions were at the surface level; before the girdle. The bottom of the stone (girdle down) seemed fairly clean, though the view was cramped.
- When viewed from below, the cut was stange; the culet was totally off center, and it appeared VERY white/transparent, as if it was simply made of glass at the bottom.
- The girdle area had a visible line (I''m almost positive that it wasn''t a facet edge) all the way around it, as if there was a "seam" there. It even seemed to be uneven, though the line was perfectly straight.
- I can''t remember what the major area of inclusion looked like; I was too focued on the other tidbits.
- I have no idea what was paid for this item, but typically, my father seems to get items for a fairly inexpensive price in columbia/equador, and they''re appraised at much higher values.
That''s all I can recall at the moment, and although I hate to say it, I have NO experience doing this and might just be way out to lunch, but I feel as though so many signs adding up, there is NO way that I could have made this all up.
Unfortunatly, I have about 8 hours of loupe experience, and I''ve *NEVER* seen an emerald before. I''m describing things the best that I can, though I do at least feel comfortable enough with the loupe to relay some of the important facts of my brief but possibly informative analysis.
The strange part to all of this? My mother had this appraised at a local B&M, who shuffles off their appraisals to a contractor. He''s a certified GG, and has 20 years experience. It need not be said that the gentleman who wrote the appraisal knows a heck of a lot more about this stuff than I do. Though, there were a few things off with his appraisal: the document was for a ring and two other items, but the appraisal value was the TOTAL value for all two or three items. There was NO breakdown. The listing for the ring in question was (verbatum) the following text:
1 X 1.25 ct Rectangular Emerald / Trap Cut Emerald, Colour Bright Green/Good, Clarity Medium. The stone measure approx. 7.22mm X 5.81mm X 4.53mm.
At first, I had thought that "Trap Cut" might have implied this trickery, but as far as I can tell, it simply refers to a "Step Cut", similar to what you see with a typical emerald cut.
Thoughts?
I''m DYING to know more about this issue, and ultimately hope to get the ring appraised again by another GG, but I don''t know if I have the heart to tell this to my parents. 
Sorry for another long winded email.
Anyways, I''m having a close look at this ring (because I''m now at the point where I need to look at any peice of jewelry that I see with the loupe), and something strikes me as odd, but I can''t place it. I washed the ring in hot water with a toothbrush, and brought it back to the loupe.
I almost died. What was previously a deep green now shows many areas of VERY dull green to the point of white/transparent; perhaps similar to glass. Intruiged, but a little frightened that I might have damaged the stone, I continued to look at it with the loupe for about 10 minutes. What I saw was VERY interesting - it looked like a doublet/triplet (thanks for the reminder on this term mogok)!
- When viewed from the top/table, it looked like a diamond through a green ideal-scope showing a LOT of leakage (sorry for this crazy analogy), this was after washing the stone, and as it dried, this effect seemed to lessen somewhat, though never appearing to go away completely.
- The only visible inclusions were at the surface level; before the girdle. The bottom of the stone (girdle down) seemed fairly clean, though the view was cramped.
- When viewed from below, the cut was stange; the culet was totally off center, and it appeared VERY white/transparent, as if it was simply made of glass at the bottom.
- The girdle area had a visible line (I''m almost positive that it wasn''t a facet edge) all the way around it, as if there was a "seam" there. It even seemed to be uneven, though the line was perfectly straight.
- I can''t remember what the major area of inclusion looked like; I was too focued on the other tidbits.
- I have no idea what was paid for this item, but typically, my father seems to get items for a fairly inexpensive price in columbia/equador, and they''re appraised at much higher values.
That''s all I can recall at the moment, and although I hate to say it, I have NO experience doing this and might just be way out to lunch, but I feel as though so many signs adding up, there is NO way that I could have made this all up.

Unfortunatly, I have about 8 hours of loupe experience, and I''ve *NEVER* seen an emerald before. I''m describing things the best that I can, though I do at least feel comfortable enough with the loupe to relay some of the important facts of my brief but possibly informative analysis.
The strange part to all of this? My mother had this appraised at a local B&M, who shuffles off their appraisals to a contractor. He''s a certified GG, and has 20 years experience. It need not be said that the gentleman who wrote the appraisal knows a heck of a lot more about this stuff than I do. Though, there were a few things off with his appraisal: the document was for a ring and two other items, but the appraisal value was the TOTAL value for all two or three items. There was NO breakdown. The listing for the ring in question was (verbatum) the following text:
1 X 1.25 ct Rectangular Emerald / Trap Cut Emerald, Colour Bright Green/Good, Clarity Medium. The stone measure approx. 7.22mm X 5.81mm X 4.53mm.
At first, I had thought that "Trap Cut" might have implied this trickery, but as far as I can tell, it simply refers to a "Step Cut", similar to what you see with a typical emerald cut.
Thoughts?

Sorry for another long winded email.