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Super_Ideal_Rock
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Far as I know there is no time limit. Not when you have kids...and they can be on it and turn around and have a kid at 14 and stay on it when they're 18...20...25..30...b/c they have a kid..and that kid can have a kid at 14 and be on it..Or have a kid at 19 and have to go on it. The incentive is: I get free medical care, free dental care, it's free for my kids, I get free groceries, I have a place to live that I don't have to pay for, I can go to school for free, I get free child care and I don't have to do anything for it. Or if I do, it's minimal. Like...min-i-mal. Sometimes those on Title 19/Medicaid/whatever each state calls it, have to pay a small amount.
There is no incentive to be *off* and to be gainfully employed. Your benefits decrease as you work and bring home an income. So..wait, now instead of having 100% of my life paid for..you mean if I work and bring home let's say $100/week, my benefits will go down $100/week? What do I do then? (and that's not exact, I'm making up numbers)
I could work full time, 40 hours a week and bring home $250, but then my benefits are cut to nothing b/c I don't qualify as a gainfully employed individual and I don't get any extra help to make up for it? That's not a fun choice. B/c then you have to do what the rest of us do-maybe work over time, work weekends, work a couple extra shifts, in order to make sure your bills are paid. It's not an all or nothing thing like you get 100% benefits and don't work but if you get a job and work one hour a week suddenly your benefits are eliminated. I'm not sure exactly how the levels are set up, but there are some levels. You *do* have to put forth some effort, much the same as the rest of us, to make up the difference.
It seems to be almost like a..drug, in a way.
ETA and you can get an education while on it and have it paid for. I've told the story before, but when I wanted to go back to school and looked into loans/funding etc, when the lady was helping me fill out the paperwork, what it basically boiled down to, was, in my job, I made "too much money" b/c I was not an unmarried single mother, so she NO LIE looked me right in the eye and told me I had two choices if I wanted help. "Have a baby and don't marry the father" or "quit your job, move back home and let your parents support you for six months" OR I could pay for it myself/take out loans. I burst out laughing, thinking she was joking. Nope. She apologized and said "I'm sorry honey, I applaud you trying to do something for yourself, but the system isn't set up to help you right now." After I told JD what she said and we had a chuckle-I went home and cried, and my parents hit the roof. And then I marched right back in to the school and asked for help filling out loan forms and I paid for classes myself.
There is no incentive to be *off* and to be gainfully employed. Your benefits decrease as you work and bring home an income. So..wait, now instead of having 100% of my life paid for..you mean if I work and bring home let's say $100/week, my benefits will go down $100/week? What do I do then? (and that's not exact, I'm making up numbers)
I could work full time, 40 hours a week and bring home $250, but then my benefits are cut to nothing b/c I don't qualify as a gainfully employed individual and I don't get any extra help to make up for it? That's not a fun choice. B/c then you have to do what the rest of us do-maybe work over time, work weekends, work a couple extra shifts, in order to make sure your bills are paid. It's not an all or nothing thing like you get 100% benefits and don't work but if you get a job and work one hour a week suddenly your benefits are eliminated. I'm not sure exactly how the levels are set up, but there are some levels. You *do* have to put forth some effort, much the same as the rest of us, to make up the difference.
It seems to be almost like a..drug, in a way.
ETA and you can get an education while on it and have it paid for. I've told the story before, but when I wanted to go back to school and looked into loans/funding etc, when the lady was helping me fill out the paperwork, what it basically boiled down to, was, in my job, I made "too much money" b/c I was not an unmarried single mother, so she NO LIE looked me right in the eye and told me I had two choices if I wanted help. "Have a baby and don't marry the father" or "quit your job, move back home and let your parents support you for six months" OR I could pay for it myself/take out loans. I burst out laughing, thinking she was joking. Nope. She apologized and said "I'm sorry honey, I applaud you trying to do something for yourself, but the system isn't set up to help you right now." After I told JD what she said and we had a chuckle-I went home and cried, and my parents hit the roof. And then I marched right back in to the school and asked for help filling out loan forms and I paid for classes myself.