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Measles Cases Are Now Up To 90

I'm going to guess that the answer is the standard one -- discuss policy not politics. It's a fine line I know.

States have the right to make laws supporting the wishes of their people. If they don't enforce those laws then the people suffer. If the people make decisions that turn out not to be in their best interests such as no vaccine policies or freedom of choice on public health policies then they suffer the consequences when they make the wrong choice. There's where things get tricky because they don't stay at home. They travel out of their state and out of the country taking their infectious diseases with them. Freedom isn't always wisely used.
 
Has anyone heard about how long immunity from the MMR vaccine lasts? I mean, I'm old. I don't even know if I got it. All I know is that my parents told me that I had the 10 day measles when I was really really young, but they also said it was the German measles. Those two aren't the same thing, I heard there is a test to see if you have immunity so if this gets much worse, I may look into that.
 
Lookinagain said:
Has anyone heard about how long immunity from the MMR vaccine lasts? I mean, I'm old. I don't even know if I got it. All I know is that my parents told me that I had the 10 day measles when I was really really young, but they also said it was the German measles. Those two aren't the same thing, I heard there is a test to see if you have immunity so if this gets much worse, I may look into that.
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I had an MMR booster a few years ago before traveling. It was quick and easy. Ask your doctor, of course, but if you're worried, maybe consider getting re-vaccinated.
 
glitterata said:
I had an MMR booster a few years ago before traveling. It was quick and easy. Ask your doctor, of course, but if you're worried, maybe consider getting re-vaccinated.
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Thanks for that. I may do that. I got chicken pox in my 30's and had to be hospitalized it was so bad. I don't want a repeat of something like that, and I'm a lot older now.
 
You can get a test to see what antibodies you have, I think it’s called an antibody titer test…I recently received the chickenpox vaccine as I never had it as a child and though I was told I had the vaccine as a teenager when I was tested this year I had zero immunity.
 
glitterata said:
I had an MMR booster a few years ago before traveling. It was quick and easy. Ask your doctor, of course, but if you're worried, maybe consider getting re-vaccinated.
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a few years ago we had an epidemic up north
i asked because i know i did not get the booster when i was 11 or 12
the nurse looked in my file and said i was ok ???
 
bee24 said:
You can get a test to see what antibodies you have, I think it’s called an antibody titer test…I recently received the chickenpox vaccine as I never had it as a child and though I was told I had the vaccine as a teenager when I was tested this year I had zero immunity.
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My DH got the measles vaccine twice because the first one didn't work and unfortunately the second one didn't either. Our physician told us that happens with some people. So he is not protected. Zero antibodies/zero immunity


Lookinagain said:
Has anyone heard about how long immunity from the MMR vaccine lasts? I mean, I'm old. I don't even know if I got it. All I know is that my parents told me that I had the 10 day measles when I was really really young, but they also said it was the German measles. Those two aren't the same thing, I heard there is a test to see if you have immunity so if this gets much worse, I may look into that.
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After receiving two doses of the MMR vaccine, over 99% of people will be protected from measles for life. Though I have also read ten years. But if you are concerned you can do an antibody titer

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If you were born before 1957, you most likely were exposed to measles as a child and have natural immunity. In that case, no vaccination or booster is needed, said Dr. Priya Sampathkumar, an infectious disease specialist at the Mayo Clinic. Additionally, if you were born after 1957 and you have access to your vaccine records showing you got both doses, you’re all set, Sampathkumar said.

Even one dose offers sufficient protection for most adults, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

“The problem is many of us … don’t know for sure if we received vaccines or not — and we have no one to ask,” Sampathkumar said. By the 1970s and ’80s, most schools had regulations requiring vaccines, she said, so that offers a clue.

In an outbreak, however, the recommendations may change for some people.

If you know you received both doses of the MMR vaccine, there are no recommendations for a third dose — even in an outbreak, according to the CDC. If you know you only received one dose, the CDC recommends listening to your local public health department, which may recommend a second dose for adults.

“The bottom line is, if you don’t know and you live in areas where measles is spreading, then you could consider getting vaccinated,” Sampathkumar said.

For some people in special circumstances — hospital workers in high-risk settings, people who are or live with someone who is immunocompromised, or organ transplant candidates — it may make sense to take a titer test, which measures the level of antibodies in your blood. “They may check your titer levels at that point and you may need revaccination,” said Dr. Michael Aguilar, who practices family medicine in Akron, Ohio, and is affiliated with the Cleveland Clinic.

But what about those five people in Texas — the ones who say they were vaccinated and yet contracted measles anyway?

Breakthrough cases can occur, but “it’s pretty rare,” said Dr. Ryan Maves, an infectious disease expert at Wake Forest University School of Medicine. These cases tend to be milder, with a faster recovery time and a lower risk for severe complications like pneumonia as compared to cases of measles in unvaccinated people, Maves said.

Measles is especially worrisome to public health experts, Maves said, because it can cause what’s been called “immune amnesia.”

“The protection you have from prior infections can often be eliminated by measles affecting your B cells, the type of white blood cells that are involved in the production of immunologic memory — antibodies to the things you’ve been exposed to before, like chickenpox, for example,” Maves said.

“It can actually wipe out your immunologic memory,” he said."
 
My 5 cents.
I can appreciate how some people think vaccines are unnatural or the cause of other illnesses or conditions ie Autism. However, minority unvaccinated people rely on the majority vaccinated people to protect them from diseases that today most consider of no importance.
People forget I guess that German measles and Chicken Pox while pregnant can have devastating effects on the fetus. Complications of measles includes brain damage, blindness even death. German measles can cause birth defects, deafness and infertility in men.
Polio is a hideous disease, up until the development of a vaccine thousands of children suffered life changing, life long disabilities.
Tragically once more than 10% of the population is unvaccinated, babies, the elderly and the immune compromised will suffer greatly and in huge numbers.
I get that it’s a “personal choice” and people are entitled to choose but the ramifications, in time, will be far reaching.
 
Bron357 said:
I get that it’s a “personal choice” and people are entitled to choose but the ramifications, in time, will be far reaching.
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I don't share this view. Vaccines are life saving and certain vaccines SHOULD be mandatory because as you write it saves other people. Those who cannot protect themselves. They are nothing short of miraculous and if people refuse to get them we absolutely will see a return of deadly diseases previously eradicated or under control. Like smallpox to name just one


Immunization is a global health success story, saving millions of lives every year. MILLIONS


 
Lookinagain said:
Has anyone heard about how long immunity from the MMR vaccine lasts? I mean, I'm old. I don't even know if I got it. All I know is that my parents told me that I had the 10 day measles when I was really really young, but they also said it was the German measles. Those two aren't the same thing, I heard there is a test to see if you have immunity so if this gets much worse, I may look into that.
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As far as I know, I had the 10 day and the German measles too. In our day, we had all of those things. Somehow, though, I never had the mumps! I seem to remember when I was pregnant going for a blood titer to see if I had had the German measles. It was all so routine that I didn't really commit it to memory. The last MMR vaccine you get is at 5 years of age, so I guess the immunity must be lifetime? Now that there has been an outbreak though, I wonder if that might be updated? Thank goodness both of my grandchildren have had their vaccines!
 
As Missy said above, sometimes people simply do not end up with immunity from the MMR. Immunity duration seems variable. I had my titers done last year and my kids’ several years ago. I have full immunity from all three diseases contained in the MMR (measles, mumps, and rubella). One of my children, despite having had the vaccine far more recently, had zero immunity to mumps. She has been re-vaccinated.

So to answer the original question, duration seems wildly variable. If your physician is willing to run your titers (or to simply give you another vaccine without titers), that’s the route I would go.
 
Calliecake said:
Rubella is German Measles @Lookinagain. I just looked up the difference between rubella and measles. Rubella is a different virus and has milder symptoms than measles.
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Yes, I looked it up too. But my confusion is that my parents told me I had the German Measles, but said it lasted 10 days. From what I read, Rubella lasts about 3 days. Regular measles lasts about 10. So I don't know which one I really had. I've never had mumps. That much I know.
 
I remember having vaccinations, and have a little bump on my upper left arm that's as a result. There was one that was a liquid "drink", too. Pity I don't recall at all what they were for. I had chicken pox as a youngster; I vaguely recall measles going around (don't recall if I had them), and know that I never had mumps.

I know two people that had had polio when they were young (they were both much older than I was at the time), and one walked with an odd gait as a result.
 
SparklieBug said:
I remember having vaccinations, and have a little bump on my upper left arm that's as a result. There was one that was a liquid "drink", too. Pity I don't recall at all what they were for. I had chicken pox as a youngster; I vaguely recall measles going around (don't recall if I had them), and know that I never had mumps.

I know two people that had had polio when they were young (they were both much older than I was at the time), and one walked with an odd gait as a result.
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the bump on your upper left arm was for the smallpox vaccine. We used to call them "vaccinations"....The liquid drink was probably the polio vaccine. They gave them out at my school and I remember getting it in a little cup. I think it was a pink or red liquid.
 
Lookinagain said:
Thanks for that. I may do that. I got chicken pox in my 30's and had to be hospitalized it was so bad. I don't want a repeat of something like that, and I'm a lot older now.
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Please please get the shingles vaccine when you are able. If you had chicken pox, shingles can attack you later on.
 
MissGotRocks said:
As far as I know, I had the 10 day and the German measles too. In our day, we had all of those things. Somehow, though, I never had the mumps! I seem to remember when I was pregnant going for a blood titer to see if I had had the German measles. It was all so routine that I didn't really commit it to memory. The last MMR vaccine you get is at 5 years of age, so I guess the immunity must be lifetime? Now that there has been an outbreak though, I wonder if that might be updated? Thank goodness both of my grandchildren have had their vaccines!
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ok now i remember getting in
mum took me in on my birthday


in NZ most of us have a plunket book
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we all had plunket nurses who visited a new baby at home then we went to the plunket rooms to see the nurse till we were 5
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i dont have my book now and i dont know what it looked like but some people have hung onto theirs
i suspect these days it does not look like this
Plunket started in my hometown
 
Lookinagain said:
the bump on your upper left arm was for the smallpox vaccine. We used to call them "vaccinations"....The liquid drink was probably the polio vaccine. They gave them out at my school and I remember getting it in a little cup. I think it was a pink or red liquid.
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My polio vaccine was liquid on a sugar lump, that i had to crunch down & swallow in front of the Dr. It was pretty disgusting!
 
Daisys and Diamonds said:
ok now i remember getting in
mum took me in on my birthday


in NZ most of us have a plunket book
1740257383376.jpeg
we all had plunket nurses who visited a new baby at home then we went to the plunket rooms to see the nurse till we were 5
1740257065924.jpeg
i dont have my book now and i dont know what it looked like but some people have hung onto theirs
i suspect these days it does not look like this
Plunket started in my hometown
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In the UK we have the Red Book. It records all nurse visits, height, weight & vaccines. My mother has mine (still - I’m 50 now!) and I have my girls, who are 14 & 15.
 
Ally T said:
My polio vaccine was liquid on a sugar lump, that i had to crunch down & swallow in front of the Dr. It was pretty disgusting!
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Me too. What kind of person fools a kid by offering something sweet that turns out to be a big ick. I never trusted my pediatrician after that, lol.
 
Do childhood vaccines for mumps, measles, and chickenpox protect kids completely or just lessen the degree of the disease? None of those vaccines were available when I was a kid. I had all 3 diseases and the mumps were the worst, followed by the chicken pox and the measles were a piece of cake.
 
Matata said:
Do childhood vaccines for mumps, measles, and chickenpox protect kids completely or just lessen the degree of the disease? None of those vaccines were available when I was a kid. I had all 3 diseases and the mumps were the worst, followed by the chicken pox and the measles were a piece of cake.
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I'm not sure. The chicken pox vaccine didn't come out until 1995 and my daughter and I both had chicken pox before that. Measles hasn't really been around until recently. And honestly, I've haven't heard anything about cases of mumps. Maybe someone else is more knowledgeable than I am. But I'm interested as well, especially since I'm thinking of seeing if I need the MMR.
 
Matata said:
Do childhood vaccines for mumps, measles, and chickenpox protect kids completely or just lessen the degree of the disease?
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Childhood vaccines for mumps, measles, and chickenpox do not completely protect children from contracting these diseases. Instead they are highly effective at significantly reducing the severity of the illness and preventing serious complications. No vaccine is 100% effective but they are life saving
 
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