ruby59
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VRBeauty|1485367364|4119652 said:I have a cousin who is a lifelong activist for peace and fighting. Unfortunately, that blood tie doesn't translate to my being a lifelong peace activist. I have, however, participated in meetings and forums with people who's view I disagree with... being in those places, probably even being photographed with those people, didn't "contaminate" me with those views either.
The posts against Sarsour, which included assaults on her character, were featured in many right-wing websites, including popular outlets like the Daily Caller.
The seemingly orchestrated effort centred on falsehoods, Islamophobic and misogynistic slurs.
lovedogs|1485368135|4119662 said:As far as I can tell from searching, this has not been reported anywhere other than untrustworthy sites. Not surprisingly, InfoWars (where everything is a conspiracy theory/lie) got in on this days ago http://www.infowars.com/womens-march-organizer-recently-met-ex-hamas-operative-has-family-ties-to-terror-group/
Other infoThe posts against Sarsour, which included assaults on her character, were featured in many right-wing websites, including popular outlets like the Daily Caller.
The seemingly orchestrated effort centred on falsehoods, Islamophobic and misogynistic slurs.
From what I've seen, this is just propaganda and attempts to tear her down for organizing and helping with the march (and for being Muslim....because many of those websites have Islamophobic writers).
ruby59|1485307439|4119327 said:https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/01/24/womens-march-organizer-linda-sarsour-accused-of-terrorist-ties/21661978/
ruby59|1485307439|4119327 said:https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/01/24/womens-march-organizer-linda-sarsour-accused-of-terrorist-ties/21661978/
Tekate|1485377742|4119765 said:This is very much innuendo, it's as though the Daily Caller is calling her guilty by association, there is NO evidence she is involved in terrorism, shame on the Daily Caller for casting doubt on this woman without any concrete information.. This is why I don't like Trump, with Trump if I'm walking down the street and speaking hello to a muslim friend, I'm a terrorist (extreme but on point). This stuff get's repeated and smear campaigns have already started against this woman. Shame on the right.
JoCoJenn|1485378941|4119774 said:Tekate|1485377742|4119765 said:This is very much innuendo, it's as though the Daily Caller is calling her guilty by association, there is NO evidence she is involved in terrorism, shame on the Daily Caller for casting doubt on this woman without any concrete information.. This is why I don't like Trump, with Trump if I'm walking down the street and speaking hello to a muslim friend, I'm a terrorist (extreme but on point). This stuff get's repeated and smear campaigns have already started against this woman. Shame on the right.
I'm not suggesting I believe the stories, but re: the first bolded part, I'm curious how you define or what you consider 'evidence'.
Regarding the second bolded part, this is not a "right" or "left" issue; it's an integrity & ethics issue, as so-called "journalists" and "news" media on BOTH sides are quite guilty of promoting rumor, innuendo and rhetoric as "fact".
athenaworth|1485379480|4119778 said:I fear this administration will make McCarthyism look like a walk in the park. I've intentionally not signed any petitions for fear of being black balled some how some way.
But I will say that I recently befriended a very wonderful woman on IG who happened to be Muslim. We were speaking about Trump and she entrusted me with her real name and told me to google her. When I did I saw that she was the target of one of these news sites that claimed she was a terrorist and she receives death threats daily. All because some fake new site targeted her. That terrifies me. People don't research what they're reading or find alternative sources. They just believe what they read as gospel. And yes it applies to the far left as much as it does the far right. My mom in a whack job liberal and posts EVERYTHING she finds on her FB page. When I have spare time I fact check half of her articles for her because she's truly not helping herself by only posting far left websites. It really does have to be a perseverance thing for everyone or shit is going to get really really scary/messy.
katharath|1485379575|4119779 said:Here's a handy chart for who to believe:
kenny|1485382769|4119807 said:I'm so glad this thread was started.
Clearly all women who marched are terrorists.
It's obvious.
It's just common sense. Period!
AnnaH|1485380525|4119792 said:K, in my opinion, your chart is too simplistic.
Contributors to various publications differ, some reliable, some not.
That goes for those in the center of the chart, too.
katharath|1485383357|4119812 said:AnnaH|1485380525|4119792 said:K, in my opinion, your chart is too simplistic.
Contributors to various publications differ, some reliable, some not.
That goes for those in the center of the chart, too.
It's meant as a starting off point, it's not called "the all encompassing, infallible chart". We can't handhold every internet user. People need to be responsible for themselves - if they are truly having such a hard time, perhaps they should learn how to fact check, discern truth from lies, and do a bit of simple research. That's what critical thinkers do.
lovedogs|1485382788|4119808 said:katharath|1485379575|4119779 said:Here's a handy chart for who to believe:
I love that chart! First saw on FB, and although no chart can be 100% detailed about everything, this one comes pretty darn close to having most of the sources that are read regularly.
lovedogs|1485383419|4119813 said:katharath|1485383357|4119812 said:AnnaH|1485380525|4119792 said:K, in my opinion, your chart is too simplistic.
Contributors to various publications differ, some reliable, some not.
That goes for those in the center of the chart, too.
It's meant as a starting off point, it's not called "the all encompassing, infallible chart". We can't handhold every internet user. People need to be responsible for themselves - if they are truly having such a hard time, perhaps they should learn how to fact check, discern truth from lies, and do a bit of simple research. That's what critical thinkers do.
Katharath: I love you. That is all.
lovedogs|1485383419|4119813 said:katharath|1485383357|4119812 said:AnnaH|1485380525|4119792 said:K, in my opinion, your chart is too simplistic.
Contributors to various publications differ, some reliable, some not.
That goes for those in the center of the chart, too.
It's meant as a starting off point, it's not called "the all encompassing, infallible chart". We can't handhold every internet user. People need to be responsible for themselves - if they are truly having such a hard time, perhaps they should learn how to fact check, discern truth from lies, and do a bit of simple research. That's what critical thinkers do.
Katharath: I love you. That is all.
Chrono|1485383119|4119809 said:I'm not sure what this thread is all about since all it has is a link and no questions were asked and no opinion was offered.
So those who participated in the March now are considered to have terrorist ties?
katharath|1485383357|4119812 said:AnnaH|1485380525|4119792 said:K, in my opinion, your chart is too simplistic.
Contributors to various publications differ, some reliable, some not.
That goes for those in the center of the chart, too.
ruby59|1485378507|4119771 said:http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/21/womens-march-organizer-recently-met-ex-hamas-operative-has-family-ties-to-terror-group/
Trying to get through this is difficult when you have certain publications telling you one thing and others something else.
But pictures do not lie, so this makes me wonder..
kenny|1485382769|4119807 said:I'm so glad this thread was started.
Clearly all women who marched are terrorists.
It's obvious.
It's just common sense. Period!
Hey katharath.. do you have an original source for this? I would like a better copy to share. Thanks in advance!katharath|1485379575|4119779 said:Here's a handy chart for who to believe: