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GeoAtl

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What would you guys do in the following situation:

My girlfriend and I have both looked at various settings and we both absolutely loved a particular Ritani setting sold at a local jeweler. Only three jewelers in Atlanta sell Ritani and, upon our request, they've all confirmed that it would take no more than three weeks to get it in. I then placed the order with Solomon Brothers on May 1 and told them that it had to be in by June 3 (tomorrow), which is the date I wanted to propose (Solomon Brothers has been very courteous and professional throughout the whole process). I was assured that Ritani was told about the timeline and would have no problem with it.

I checked on the status of the setting on May 22 and was told that Ritani was having some problems adhering to the timeline but that it would be done by the second week of June (!!!). I protested and Ritani then proceeded to set and then miss new deadlines, until I set the drop dead deadline of June 2nd (today).

Well, the setting did arrive today. Instead of white gold, which is what we had requested, it's in yellow gold and the size is wrong. I had Solomon Brothers get in touch with Ritani, which acknowledged the mistake (no kidding) but said that it would take them another two weeks to make another setting for us.

I then felt that I had no choice but to get in touch with Ritani myself. I barely got through to Steve White, Ritani's production manager, who was rather unapologetic and whose response to me essentially was "well, mistakes happen."

I told him that I would be able to postpone the proposal until Tuesday, June 6th, but that the setting absolutely has to be done by then (I also gave them the option of doing it in platinum at no additional cost to me (it's otherwise about $300 more expensive in platinum), which they refused to do). Steve rudely responded once again by saying that mistakes happen, that he would not be able to accommodate my timeline and then refused to get in touch with Ritani's higher ups regarding the situation (they're all apparently at the industry trade show in Las Vegas). Upon being informed that it would be either Steve getting in touch with Ritani's CFO or a newspaper reporter, Steve finally called Joe, Ritani's CFO, and was apparently told to do his best to accommodate the timeline.

Even after that conversation, instead of attempting to immediately rectify the mistake, Steve called Solomon Brothers to ask them whether I was a "good customer" and whether it was worth coming in on Saturday to cast the setting (he received an affirmative response). After all these back and forth conversations where Ritani has been extremely unapologetic and confrontational (sticking to its mantra that mistakes happen and that it's not a big deal), they finally said that they would do their best to overnight the correct setting to Solomon Brothers on Tuesday.

Please let me know if I am overreacting here, but I find it absolutely incredible that a luxury goods manufacturer, such as Ritani, is able to stay in business while, at least in my case, failing to adhere to its own deadlines, using the wrong metal, the wrong size and then finding the audacity to be rude to the customer to calls them to convey my profound disappointment over Ritani's service (or the lack thereof).

Not only am I absolutely furious with Ritani, but I am now quite concerned that they will once again screw up the setting/fail to adhere to the timeline, which will wreak havoc in my engagement plans. Do any of you have any recommendations at this point? Would you stay with Ritani and hope for the best (my gf just looooooved their setting) or would you try to cut your losses and try to find another setting that can be done before the 6th? Is there anything you think I can do to minimize the chance that this will happen again? Is this an industry-wide problem?
 
First of all, congratulations on your upcoming engagement. It sounds like you are putting a lot of effort into it!

Secondly, it does sound like the Ritani guy may have been rude...that is too bad.

I ordered through Jeff Cooper and was told it would take 3 weeks. It took a few days over that, but I think they were well within what was acceptable. I think about a month to do these things is pretty standard.

However mistakes DO happen. Good customer service means they should do their best to rectify this, and of course at the very least apologize. If your engagement plans were pretty set to start with (judging from the fact that you already knew the date you were going to propose when you ordered the ring), you were not giving yourself or Ritani a whole lot of leeway. To state the deadline you wanted the ring in is the same date you wanted to propose is setting yourself up for some stress, IMHO. However, they DID say they could meet that deadline, so I guess that is the issue.

Hm...are you overreacting? Depends if you are overreacting to the mistake (then yes), or the rudeness (then probably not.) They need to rectify the situation by getting you that ring asap. I do not think, however, that they owe you the setting in the more expensive metal. If they did take that option, would it have been OK for them to get you the ring in an additional two weeks? Or were you giving them the option to get you that ring asap and do it in the plat also?

Good luck with this...I know this should be an exciting time for you and you have my sympathies for your frustrations.
 
You''re not going to find anyone who can do it for you before the sixth.
 
sorry to hear about your frustrating experience. i would stay the course and hope for the best.
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Thank you all so much for your responses and your sympathies. Travelinggal, to answer your question, according to Ritani's original deadline, the setting should've been done on or around May 22. I knew that I wanted to propose on June 3rd, so I thought that even if the deadline slipped, Ritani would still have 2 extra weeks to get it done. After my status inquiry on May 22, Ritani continually set and then missed new deadlines, until I set the drop dead deadline of June 2nd.

As for platinum, I only gave them the option to use it if it would make it easier for them to meet Tuesday's deadline. We do not see much of an aesthetic difference between 18kt white gold and platinum, so the original order referenced the cheaper metal. If, however, a different white metal with essentially the same visual appearance would make it easier for them to meet the deadline, I had no problem with that. Since the change in the metal would then be required to accommodate Ritani, I do not feel that I should pay for such an accommodation. The bottom line is that the metal used in the setting must be white.

As for the mistake, I completely understand that mistakes happen and am quite sympathetic to people who make them. In this case, however, Ritani had to make sure of four (4) things: correct style, correct metal, correct size, correct deadline. With the exception of the style, Ritani has managed to screw up the other three! Perhaps I am overly demanding, but getting only one thing out of four right strikes me as quite inexcusable. They then compounded that by being unapologetic and, until I really pressed them for it, refusing to do much to rectify it (I'm still not at all sure that they'll be able to come through and meet the June 6th deadline).
 
No, you have an absolute right to be angry. Mistakes happen, but if you've done all you can (actually told them you wanted a white gold ring in a particular style and size), well, there's really not much else you can do. Ritani dropped the ball. They suck. Yes, accidents happen but they still screwed up. Their next job is to fix the mistake and appease the angry customer. They have an opportunity to right the wrong. What they've done is basically refuse to do so. That's mistake #2 and one that's really unjustifiable. They deserve to be bashed.

Unfortunately, as with many companies of luxury goods, they can be quite snooty themselves and write you off since they're so busy with other customers. BMW is like that. Their customer service is putrid. But, they really don't care cuz they have the name and they know that if they piss you off, someone else will just take your place.
 
I don''t think you are being overly demanding. Yes mistakes happen, and they made several of them. But being apologetic and bending over backwards to make it right, to the best of your ability, is what good customer service is all about. Several times they said, ''well, mistakes happen.'' Clearly they do, as you well know. But character is defined by how one HANDLES these mistakes. You were not demanding unreasonable things (fix this on a holiday weekend, do it free, throw in this freebee, etc) - you just want what you paid for, and are justified in at least expecting some regret at their blunder. I hope they get this done for you, and that it looks stunning.
 
Codex, I actually drive a BMW and have never had a customer service issue with them. They''ve made a couple of mistakes in the past, which have all been addressed very quickly and professionally. On the other hand, I have no way of knowing whether my issues with Ritani are caused by some bad apples in the company or whether they are emblematic of Ritani''s entire operations. Judging by my experience so far though, unless Ritani really comes through in a big way (of which I''m not overly optimistic), I cannot imagine ever again dealing with them.

Virginia, thanks for your support and the investigative work. I called that number but nobody answered. Even if I were to call Ritani''s customer service again, I very much doubt that they would give me Joe''s cell #. I too can only imagine what the production manager must''ve told him about the situation!
 
Geo, it sounds like you gave them a fair shake. Given everything you said (and added), I''d say that I''d be pretty darn angry as well.

I''d be hard pressed to give them my business if I were so angry, but as the others said, I don''t think anyone else could get you something by your deadline.
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nope, I do not feel that you are being unreasonable at all!!!! Just from reading the post, I kind of got the sense that they knew they were not going to be able to meet the deadline, so they just sent "something....a ring...any ring...to stall for time". And perhaps that may also be why you received no real apology.....they knew you'd be calling.

I feel the correct way Ritani should have handled your situation was to "offer" you to make it platinum to compensate for the mistake....alittle nice jesture to maybe smooth things over.....
you should not have had to ask for it....Its usually a courtesy for a company to offer a freebie, or slight upgrade if they screwed up....I mean come on....if you go thru McD's drive thru and you grab your order, pull over and check it, and somethings missing, the manager usually throws in an extra cheeseburger or something....right??? If they do things like that to rectify a mistake....then a company like Ritani should too, right?

stick to your guns...I know it must be hard. I would not want to deal with them anymore...but your GF loves the setting....good luck
 
Gosh, what a terrible mess! It is very hard for me to understand that many mistakes unless someone else somewhere got your ring and you got theirs! I am sorry for the problems this causes with your plans. I hope your poor girlfriend isn''t expecting the ring this weekend and will be disappointed when it doesn''t happen!
 
I''m sorry to hear that you''re going through this. I''m not sure what to say, but I agree that you had every right to be upset. Especially after they didn''t seem that concerned. I would have been appologyzing left and right if I were Ritani. I mean, you purchased the ER from them. I''m not sure what band you had in mind for the ring, but common sence tells me that you MIGHT (or were prior to this mess) have purchased a matching band... Their loss...
 
With permission from your gf, I would cancel the order and take your business elsewhere! I can''t stand bad customer service like that. There''s no excuse for them to be rude to you. Introduce her to PS or take her to some high end jewelry stores and I''m sure she will quickly fall in love with other rings.
 
Oh, man...I'd be WILD with anger, and sorely tempted to take my business elsewhere!
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At least you can take some comfort that you told your story here. Maybe someone will bring this thread to their attention.

At the VERY VERY LEAST, they owe you a HUGE apology!

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ETA: If by chance you do decide to cancel your order, could you post a picture of the mounting here? Maybe someone could direct you to something similar, or you could have one custom made...just a thought...
 
the problem is that they feel like you want their setting so you have to just take it...and yes sometimes places selling a unique item or a luxury item do act like you have no other recourse but to buy from them. it definitely sucks and it is not appropriate.

if it is that upsetting, i'd also suggest to cancel the order and go elsewhere. the problem is that only ritani makes the ritani products. sure you can find something similar but it won't be EXACT. if this is okay with you, and you can't deal with their attitude and the drama, then cancel it. but if you want that setting you ARE stuck with dealing with them. since the 6th is what...4 days away? i'd check in on monday and see how things are going and LINE UP an alternate temporary setting with solomon brothers, something they have in stock. just in case on the 5th or whatever if you hear bad news or the setting comes in wrong again, or even on the 6th in the AM, if things aren't right, set the stone into the temp setting and see if you can get 'credit' back or similar when you come to choose the final piece.

unfortunate story but i'm not surprised. these large designers always inevitably have some issues. and sounds like steve needs a tongue lashing. good luck!!
 
Thank you all so very much for all the sympathetic and supportive comments! As much as I would love to take the order away from Ritani, I am afraid that doing that at this point would punish my girlfriend much more than it would punish them. She and I selected the setting a little while ago, at which point I took over the whole process to retain at least an element of surprise. She doesn't know exactly when the proposal is coming but it certainly will mean a lot to both of us if I am able to do it tomorrow, June 6th (it would've meant a lot more on the 3rd, but that's out now). Cancelling the order now and asking her to select another setting would be a huuuuuuuge disappointment to her.

So, as much as I HATE being in this position, I have no choice but to wait and see if Ritani will for once honor its promise and deliver the right setting at the right time.
 
Date: 6/5/2006 11:03:32 AM
Author: Virginia
Keeping my fingers crossed for you! It is the 5th today, and since it is due tomorrow I would call TODAY for a progress report if I were you. Remember that the squeaky wheel gets the oil. Sad but true. And better to know today if it can not be done by tomorrow, right? That way you could get a plan together (ie: temp ring to be replaced in a few days when the real ring is done or change your plan again...)

Hope it turns out ok!!
Thanks, Virginia. I am waiting for a status update, which I should have shortly. By the way, Solomon Brothers tells me that they have had numerous problems with Ritani lately, where the deadlines were not met, sizes were wrong, etc... I wasn't told about it at the time I placed the order or I would have very seriously reconsidered my decision to purchase Ritani in the first place.

There is nothing worse than, after already being forced to postpone the proposal once, to sit here not knowing whether it will be possible to do it tomorrow or whether I will have to go to plan C.
 
I''m keeping my fingers crossed for you and hoping that you are able to propose tomorrow. As long as the ring comes back like it should, it will be worth the wait when she sees it.
 
Update: Solomon Brothers has so far been told that Ritani will be able to deliver the correct setting to them tomorrow. I will believe it when I see it, but the news are certainly encouraging.
 
Date: 6/5/2006 1:26:22 PM
Author: GeoAtl
Update: Solomon Brothers has so far been told that Ritani will be able to deliver the correct setting to them tomorrow. I will believe it when I see it, but the news are certainly encouraging.
That is great news. I will have my fingers and toes crossed for ya!!!
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I hope they deliver as promised!
 
Keep us posted!
 
Prayers for you, too!!
 
Well, Ritani did come through, although it took an unbelievable effort to get them to do it. Solomon Brothers did receive the setting yesterday and was then able to set the stone for me right away.

My salersperson at Solomon Brothers told me that she actually had a conversation with Ritani's CFO about all the problems they've been having with his company. She also mentioned to him that while she was with Mayors, the vendors who were even a couple of days late with the settings usually provided those setting to the customer at no charge. Ritani's CFO apparently refused to do that and did not even offer to provide a token gift to say how sorry they are about the problems. While an apologetic gesture from Ritani would've been nice (I never asked them to give us anything of value for free; an apology would've been nice, however!), I am just happy that I finally got the ring from them. Needless to say, Ritani's cavalier behavior has left such a sour taste in my mouth that we will avoid them like the plague and will recommend that all our friends and collegues do the same.

At least the story ends VERY HAPPILY for us. I picked up the ring from Solomon Brothers and proposed 3 hours later
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. We are now engaged and are incredibly happy!
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Thank you all soooooooooooo very much for all the support and the kind words I've received on this forum. They are very much appreciated!
 
Date: 6/7/2006 12:10:11 PM
Author: Virginia
AND??? Did they follow through? It is the 7th! I have been waiting to hear!!
We posted at the same time (see above). I didn''t mean to keep you and all the others in suspense
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CONGRATS Geo..I am so glad to hear that Ritani and SB came through for you in the end.

I really love one of Ritani''s solitaire settings...so if I ever work with them in the future, hopefully they will have fixed their issues !!
 
Congratulations. I do love a happy ending!!!
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YAY - glad to hear it all worked out! Bummed about the crappy customer service and ATTITUDE you got from Ritani, but glad it didn''t ruin things.

Congrats!
 
Date: 6/7/2006 12:37:41 PM
Author: aljdewey
YAY - glad to hear it all worked out! Bummed about the crappy customer service and ATTITUDE you got from Ritani, but glad it didn''t ruin things.


Congrats!

ditto for me too. very disappointed in Ritani''s handling of the situation but glad you were ended up with what you wanted. Congrats on your engagement.
 
It''s such a shame that Ritani was such a PITA to work with and that you were put through that......but WOOHOO on getting engaged and finally getting the right ring!


NOW......where are the pictures?
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