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Madonna Thinks Of "BLOWING UP THE WHITE HOUSE"

HI:

Perhaps she should take a "Holiday"

cheers--Sharon
 
Nasty woman comes to mind.
 
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I actually saw two posts on FB yesterday wishing that Trump be killed. One of them was from a teenager, who said she hoped that someone would "pull the trigger"
Gross.
 
She's not talking ... like a virgin.

I think her comment gets her some attention from Secret Service.
 
kenny|1485044503|4117821 said:
She's not talking ... like a virgin.

I think her comment gets her some attention from Secret Service.
Uh oh Kenny, Express Yourself like that again and Madonna may not let you Live to Tell another pun and definitely wouldn't be Crazy for You. She'd probably say Papa Don't Preach and Open Your Heart. ;))
 
Maybe she'll be our next president. Starting he campaign early. After all, Trump got elected after he repeatedly encouraged violence.
 
I saw "Hamilton" last month.

It reminded me that the "founding fathers" were treasoners
and that the fundamental principle of their patriotism was also the foundation of their treason.
 
She should stick to singing and flaunting her erotic, half nude body all over the stage. That's her expertise, not politics. When I was younger, I was a huge Madonna fan as she is quite talented. However, with this poor behavior I refuse to support her any longer. I'm tired of listening to the "Hollywood Elite" voicing their political views - they should stay with what they know best, singing, dancing, acting, etc. - not politics as they're not politicians. And this comment is not meant to state my political views nor am I saying this on behalf of any political party - simply stating that her violent comment about "blowing up the Whitehouse" is quite eyebrow raising. :confused:

And she threw out so many F*** bombs on CNN, they finally cut her off. Shame on her.
 
Queenie60|1485106015|4118079 said:
She should stick to singing and flaunting her erotic, half nude body all over the stage. That's her expertise, not politics. When I was younger, I was a huge Madonna fan as she is quite talented. However, with this poor behavior I refuse to support her any longer. I'm tired of listening to the "Hollywood Elite" voicing their political views - they should stay with what they know best, singing, dancing, acting, etc. - not politics as they're not politicians. And this comment is not meant to state my political views nor am I saying this on behalf of any political party - simply stating that her violent comment about "blowing up the Whitehouse" is quite eyebrow raising. :confused:

And she threw out so many F*** bombs on CNN, they finally cut her off. Shame on her.

I didn't hear the the actual audio of her, but since she said something that apparently warrants a little visit from the secret service, I'd say she should have kept her interior voice on the inside. It was a stupid stupid move on her part, and I hope they (figuratively) slap her around a bit for it.

However, aside from stupid people making actual threats, what do you propose - other than saying "Shame on you, Madonna!" (or insert name of whoever is saying something you don't approve of), be done about the so-called evil "Hollywood Elite" voicing political views?

As for dropping f-bombs, that shouldn't disqualify anyone from anything. Even places like PS, that put a supposed premium on politeness, is a veritable morass of f-bombs these days. ::)
 
I haven't listened to the audio, but has anyone considered that she didn't literally mean to blow it up lol? You know, I "blow up" people's cell phones, Justin Bieber sings about it regularly in my car (my daughter is 11 lol) - it's the lingo of the kids these days (and since Madonna refuses to act her age, I could see her using that kind of language). Maybe she meant "blowing up the white house" via our political statements, marches, messages to local government representatives, standing up to the current political climate. You know "let's all blow up the white house" like you'd blow up a cell phone.
 
I am disgusted at Madonna and the media. We need to pull together and give this administration a chance.
 
ericad|1485108437|4118096 said:
I haven't listened to the audio, but has anyone considered that she didn't literally mean to blow it up lol? You know, I "blow up" people's cell phones, Justin Bieber sings about it regularly in my car (my daughter is 11 lol) - it's the lingo of the kids these days (and since Madonna refuses to act her age, I could see her using that kind of language). Maybe she meant "blowing up the white house" via our political statements, marches, messages to local government representatives, standing up to the current political climate. You know "let's all blow up the white house" like you'd blow up a cell phone.

This was her exact quote:
"Yes I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House, but I know that this won't change anything."

In between all of her F-bombs, it was pretty clear what she meant and how she felt.
 
ericad|1485108437|4118096 said:
I haven't listened to the audio, but has anyone considered that she didn't literally mean to blow it up lol? You know, I "blow up" people's cell phones, Justin Bieber sings about it regularly in my car (my daughter is 11 lol) - it's the lingo of the kids these days (and since Madonna refuses to act her age, I could see her using that kind of language). Maybe she meant "blowing up the white house" via our political statements, marches, messages to local government representatives, standing up to the current political climate. You know "let's all blow up the white house" like you'd blow up a cell phone.


With all the nuts out there, aren't you concerned one of them might take it literally??
 
Just like Trump asking Russia to hack Hillary's emails? And guess where is he now? Our 45th president! I guess we DO look up to people who say such things.
 
Chrono|1485116729|4118147 said:
Just like Trump asking Russia to hack Hillary's emails? And guess where is he now? Our 45th president! I guess we DO look up to people who say such things.


I guess that wasn't too important to some posters.... and yet Madonna spouting off is. Did anyone really take her comments seriously? She should not have said them, that's a given.
 
Calliecake|1485116953|4118149 said:
Chrono|1485116729|4118147 said:
Just like Trump asking Russia to hack Hillary's emails? And guess where is he now? Our 45th president! I guess we DO look up to people who say such things.


I guess that wasn't too important to some posters.... and yet Madonna spouting off is. Did anyone really take her comments seriously? She should not have said them, that's a given.


Does anyone remember John Hinkley and his infatuation with Jodie Foster and what he could do to impress her.

All we need is one Madonna fan boi nut?
 
ruby59|1485113187|4118119 said:
ericad|1485108437|4118096 said:
I haven't listened to the audio, but has anyone considered that she didn't literally mean to blow it up lol? You know, I "blow up" people's cell phones, Justin Bieber sings about it regularly in my car (my daughter is 11 lol) - it's the lingo of the kids these days (and since Madonna refuses to act her age, I could see her using that kind of language). Maybe she meant "blowing up the white house" via our political statements, marches, messages to local government representatives, standing up to the current political climate. You know "let's all blow up the white house" like you'd blow up a cell phone.


With all the nuts out there, aren't you concerned one of them might take it literally??

As I said I hadn't listened to the audio. I don't condone violence in any way, but no, I also don't concern myself that people will take sarcasm literally. Being a very sarcastic person myself, I would suggest that the context of the quote be considered. I can say "I fantasize about being the cheese in a Trevor Noah/Jon Stewart sandwich" but it doesn't literally mean I want to commit adultery in a celebrity 3-way. Well, I might, but you get my point.
 
ericad|1485117992|4118163 said:
ruby59|1485113187|4118119 said:
ericad|1485108437|4118096 said:
I haven't listened to the audio, but has anyone considered that she didn't literally mean to blow it up lol? You know, I "blow up" people's cell phones, Justin Bieber sings about it regularly in my car (my daughter is 11 lol) - it's the lingo of the kids these days (and since Madonna refuses to act her age, I could see her using that kind of language). Maybe she meant "blowing up the white house" via our political statements, marches, messages to local government representatives, standing up to the current political climate. You know "let's all blow up the white house" like you'd blow up a cell phone.


With all the nuts out there, aren't you concerned one of them might take it literally??

As I said I hadn't listened to the audio. I don't condone violence in any way, but no, I also don't concern myself that people will take sarcasm literally. Being a very sarcastic person myself, I would suggest that the context of the quote be considered. I can say "I fantasize about being the cheese in a Trevor Noah/Jon Stewart sandwich" but it doesn't literally mean I want to commit adultery in a celebrity 3-way. Well, I might, but you get my point.


If a person in a movie theater suddenly gets heartburn (with me it is like a fire in my stomach) and his wife asks what is wrong - should he loudly say the word "fire" in a crowded theater.

Some things it is best to keep to yourself.
 
ksinger|1485108195|4118094 said:
Queenie60|1485106015|4118079 said:
She should stick to singing and flaunting her erotic, half nude body all over the stage. That's her expertise, not politics. When I was younger, I was a huge Madonna fan as she is quite talented. However, with this poor behavior I refuse to support her any longer. I'm tired of listening to the "Hollywood Elite" voicing their political views - they should stay with what they know best, singing, dancing, acting, etc. - not politics as they're not politicians. And this comment is not meant to state my political views nor am I saying this on behalf of any political party - simply stating that her violent comment about "blowing up the Whitehouse" is quite eyebrow raising. :confused:

And she threw out so many F*** bombs on CNN, they finally cut her off. Shame on her.

I didn't hear the the actual audio of her, but since she said something that apparently warrants a little visit from the secret service, I'd say she should have kept her interior voice on the inside. It was a stupid stupid move on her part, and I hope they (figuratively) slap her around a bit for it.

However, aside from stupid people making actual threats, what do you propose - other than saying "Shame on you, Madonna!" (or insert name of whoever is saying something you don't approve of), be done about the so-called evil "Hollywood Elite" voicing political views?

As for dropping f-bombs, that shouldn't disqualify anyone from anything. Even places like PS, that put a supposed premium on politeness, is a veritable morass of f-bombs these days. ::)

To clarify what I've said - I never referred to the "Holllywood Elite" as being evil, those were your words, not mine. And, I don't propose we do anything about it however I do not enjoy listening to them. And I certainly want to say "shame on you" to many of the posters on PS these days. Their attacks on one another and lack of respect for the opinion of others is something I do not wish to participate in. So that being said - I made a mistake to even comment about Madonna's violent remarks because so many of you will take my feelings and twist them to satisfy your need to bash other posters with different opinions than yours. I'll stick with the more "jewelry related" threads.
 
Queenie60|1485106015|4118079 said:
She should stick to singing and flaunting her erotic, half nude body all over the stage. That's her expertise, not politics. When I was younger, I was a huge Madonna fan as she is quite talented. However, with this poor behavior I refuse to support her any longer. I'm tired of listening to the "Hollywood Elite" voicing their political views - they should stay with what they know best, singing, dancing, acting, etc. - not politics as they're not politicians. And this comment is not meant to state my political views nor am I saying this on behalf of any political party - simply stating that her violent comment about "blowing up the Whitehouse" is quite eyebrow raising. :confused:

And she threw out so many F*** bombs on CNN, they finally cut her off. Shame on her.

Madonna was fully clothed yesterday, wearing layers. Her words, though possibly careless, were probably to show the crowd of marchers that she empathizes with them.

I've never understood this argument that "Hollywood Elite" shouldn't voice their political views, especially lately for several reasons. First, people who become famous by singing, dancing, acting or being in reality tv don't lose their ability to think. They also have a huge platform to effect change, or at least promote thought, even if you don't agree with their positions. Music throughout time, particularly from the 60s and 70s, contains a lot of political lyrics.

Second, if the reason is simply because they "should stay what they know best . . . not politics as they are not politicians", then hopefully you agree that every member and proposed member of Trump's cabinet is not qualified for their position. Though not Hollywood, they are elite and wealthy in their own way, be it former Goldman Sachs exec, oil CEO or billionaire heiress. None of these people have political experience nor can they relate to the average Joe as to income or lifestyle and thus concerns.

Third, and left for last due only to an associated list, the argument is undermined by the US's long history of electing or appointing the "Hollywood Elite" to political positions. Most notable and recognizable are our current president, Donald Trump; our past president, Ronald Reagan; former governor of California, Arnold Schwartzenneger; former Mayor of Cincinnati, Jerry Springer; former Mayor of Carmel, Clint Eastwood; former US Representative, Sonny Bono; and former governor of Minnesota, Jesse Ventura. Here's a list of actor-politician:

Al Franken (Democrat) (U.S. Senator, Minnesota; incumbent)
Alan Autry (Republican) (Mayor of Fresno, California)
Arnold Schwarzenegger (Republican) (Governor of California)
Ben Jones (Democrat) (U.S. Congressman, 4th District of Georgia)
Ben Stein (Republican) (Speechwriter for Presidents Richard M. Nixon and Gerald R. Ford)
Clay Aiken (Democrat) (unsuccessful nominee for U.S. House of Representatives, North Carolina's 2nd congressional district, 2014)
Clint Eastwood (Republican, but describes himself as libertarian) (Mayor of Carmel, California)
Donald Trump (Republican) (President-elect of the United States)
Fred Grandy (Republican) (U.S. Representative, Iowa)
Fred Thompson (Republican) (U.S. Senator, Tennessee and unsuccessful presidential candidate)
George Murphy (Republican) (U.S. Senator, California)
Helen Gahagan (Democrat) (U.S. Representative, 14th District of California)
Jack Kelly, mayor of Huntington Beach, Calif.
Jerry Springer (Democrat) (Mayor of Cincinnati, Ohio)
Jesse Ventura (formerly Reform; currently Independence Party of Minnesota) (Governor of Minnesota)
John Davis Lodge (Republican) (Governor of Connecticut)
John Gavin (Republican) (U.S. diplomat; Ambassador to Mexico)
Jon Runyan (Republican) (U.S. Representative of 3rd District of New Jersey)
Kal Penn (Democrat) (Associate Director in the White House Office of Public Engagement for the Barack Obama administration)
Linda McMahon (Republican) (two-time unsuccessful candidate for U.S. Senator from Connecticut, appointed Administrator of the Small Business Administration by President Donald Trump)
Melissa Gilbert (Democrat)
Nancy Kulp (Democrat) (unsuccessful nominee for U.S. House of Representatives, Pennsylvania)
Omarosa (Republican) (appointed by President Donald Trump as Assistant to the President and Director of Communications for the Office of Public Liaison)
Raj Bhakta (Republican) (unsuccessful candidate for U.S. House of Representatives, Pennsylvania)
Ralph Waite (Democrat) (unsuccessful nominee for U.S. House of Representatives)
Robert Montgomery (Republican)
Ronald Reagan (Republican) (Governor of California, President of the United States)
Sean Duffy (Republican) U.S. Representative, 7th District of Wisconsin
Sheila Kuehl (Democrat) (California State Senator)
Shirley Temple Black (Republican) (U.S. diplomat; Ambassador to Ghana and Czechoslovakia, Chief of Protocol of the United States)
Sonny Bono (Republican) (U.S. Representative, 44th District of California)
Stephen Peace (Democrat) (California State Senator)
Wendell Corey (City councilman of Santa Monica, California), (Republican) (unsuccessful candidate for U.S. House of Representatives, California), 1966

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_actor-politicians#USA
 
mary poppins|1485127727|4118242 said:
Queenie60|1485106015|4118079 said:
She should stick to singing and flaunting her erotic, half nude body all over the stage. That's her expertise, not politics. When I was younger, I was a huge Madonna fan as she is quite talented. However, with this poor behavior I refuse to support her any longer. I'm tired of listening to the "Hollywood Elite" voicing their political views - they should stay with what they know best, singing, dancing, acting, etc. - not politics as they're not politicians. And this comment is not meant to state my political views nor am I saying this on behalf of any political party - simply stating that her violent comment about "blowing up the Whitehouse" is quite eyebrow raising. :confused:

And she threw out so many F*** bombs on CNN, they finally cut her off. Shame on her.

Madonna was fully clothed yesterday, wearing layers. Her words, though possibly careless, were probably to show the crowd of marchers that she empathizes with them.

I've never understood this argument that "Hollywood Elite" shouldn't voice their political views, especially lately for several reasons. First, people who become famous by singing, dancing, acting or being in reality tv don't lose their ability to think. They also have a huge platform to effect change, or at least promote thought, even if you don't agree with their positions. Music throughout time, particularly from the 60s and 70s, contains a lot of political lyrics.

Second, if the reason is simply because they "should stay what they know best . . . not politics as they are not politicians", then hopefully you agree that every member and proposed member of Trump's cabinet is not qualified for their position. Though not Hollywood, they are elite and wealthy in their own way, be it former Goldman Sachs exec, oil CEO or billionaire heiress. None of these people have political experience nor can they relate to the average Joe as to income or lifestyle and thus concerns.

Third, and left for last due only to an associated list, the argument is undermined by the US's long history of electing or appointing the "Hollywood Elite" to political positions. Most notable and recognizable are our current president, Donald Trump; our past president, Ronald Reagan; former governor of California, Arnold Schwartzenneger; former Mayor of Cincinnati, Jerry Springer; former Mayor of Carmel, Clint Eastwood; former US Representative, Sonny Bono; and former governor of Minnesota, Jesse Ventura. Here's a list of actor-politician:

Al Franken (Democrat) (U.S. Senator, Minnesota; incumbent)
Alan Autry (Republican) (Mayor of Fresno, California)
Arnold Schwarzenegger (Republican) (Governor of California)
Ben Jones (Democrat) (U.S. Congressman, 4th District of Georgia)
Ben Stein (Republican) (Speechwriter for Presidents Richard M. Nixon and Gerald R. Ford)
Clay Aiken (Democrat) (unsuccessful nominee for U.S. House of Representatives, North Carolina's 2nd congressional district, 2014)
Clint Eastwood (Republican, but describes himself as libertarian) (Mayor of Carmel, California)
Donald Trump (Republican) (President-elect of the United States)
Fred Grandy (Republican) (U.S. Representative, Iowa)
Fred Thompson (Republican) (U.S. Senator, Tennessee and unsuccessful presidential candidate)
George Murphy (Republican) (U.S. Senator, California)
Helen Gahagan (Democrat) (U.S. Representative, 14th District of California)
Jack Kelly, mayor of Huntington Beach, Calif.
Jerry Springer (Democrat) (Mayor of Cincinnati, Ohio)
Jesse Ventura (formerly Reform; currently Independence Party of Minnesota) (Governor of Minnesota)
John Davis Lodge (Republican) (Governor of Connecticut)
John Gavin (Republican) (U.S. diplomat; Ambassador to Mexico)
Jon Runyan (Republican) (U.S. Representative of 3rd District of New Jersey)
Kal Penn (Democrat) (Associate Director in the White House Office of Public Engagement for the Barack Obama administration)
Linda McMahon (Republican) (two-time unsuccessful candidate for U.S. Senator from Connecticut, appointed Administrator of the Small Business Administration by President Donald Trump)
Melissa Gilbert (Democrat)
Nancy Kulp (Democrat) (unsuccessful nominee for U.S. House of Representatives, Pennsylvania)
Omarosa (Republican) (appointed by President Donald Trump as Assistant to the President and Director of Communications for the Office of Public Liaison)
Raj Bhakta (Republican) (unsuccessful candidate for U.S. House of Representatives, Pennsylvania)
Ralph Waite (Democrat) (unsuccessful nominee for U.S. House of Representatives)
Robert Montgomery (Republican)
Ronald Reagan (Republican) (Governor of California, President of the United States)
Sean Duffy (Republican) U.S. Representative, 7th District of Wisconsin
Sheila Kuehl (Democrat) (California State Senator)
Shirley Temple Black (Republican) (U.S. diplomat; Ambassador to Ghana and Czechoslovakia, Chief of Protocol of the United States)
Sonny Bono (Republican) (U.S. Representative, 44th District of California)
Stephen Peace (Democrat) (California State Senator)
Wendell Corey (City councilman of Santa Monica, California), (Republican) (unsuccessful candidate for U.S. House of Representatives, California), 1966

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_actor-politicians#USA


Okay - point well taken. You certainly have done your homework (which I am too busy to do) - you win! Feel better? :wavey: All I was doing was trying to state that Madonna made some very hateful and violent remarks towards our Nations Capital. That's all - I am now done trying to defend my feelings about this. For me, this was not a debate, just a comment. Bye
 
Thank goodness people actually put in the time to do their research, rather than drop shame bombs and then claim to be too busy to back them up.

I have been a longtime fan of Al Franken. I became even more of a fan watching him school Betsy DeVos.
 
Elliot86|1485137565|4118314 said:
Thank goodness people actually put in the time to do their research, rather than drop shame bombs and then claim to be too busy to back them up.

I have been a longtime fan of Al Franken. I became even more of a fan watching him school Betsy DeVos.

Seriously. I'm sorry, but it's a little silly to get hurt/defensive when you write about how ashamed Madonna should be, and then someone comes in and disagrees. She (I'm assuming gender, sorry if I'm wrong) did her research--good for her.
 
lovedogs|1485141405|4118342 said:
Elliot86|1485137565|4118314 said:
Thank goodness people actually put in the time to do their research, rather than drop shame bombs and then claim to be too busy to back them up.

I have been a longtime fan of Al Franken. I became even more of a fan watching him school Betsy DeVos.

Seriously. I'm sorry, but it's a little silly to get hurt/defensive when you write about how ashamed Madonna should be, and then someone comes in and disagrees. She (I'm assuming gender, sorry if I'm wrong) did her research--good for her.



https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/01/22/secret-service-plans-to-investigate-madonna-for-saying-she-wants/21660213/

So glad to read that she is being investigated. Free speech is one thing. Acting like a fool is another.
 
Oh now the SS is getting in on the faux outrage? Yah, that smacks a lot of the orange windbag claiming he's going to sue everyone and then we never hear about it again. But, sure.
 
ruby59|1485144959|4118370 said:
lovedogs|1485141405|4118342 said:
Elliot86|1485137565|4118314 said:
Thank goodness people actually put in the time to do their research, rather than drop shame bombs and then claim to be too busy to back them up.

I have been a longtime fan of Al Franken. I became even more of a fan watching him school Betsy DeVos.

Seriously. I'm sorry, but it's a little silly to get hurt/defensive when you write about how ashamed Madonna should be, and then someone comes in and disagrees. She (I'm assuming gender, sorry if I'm wrong) did her research--good for her.



https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/01/22/secret-service-plans-to-investigate-madonna-for-saying-she-wants/21660213/

So glad to read that she is being investigated. Free speech is one thing. Acting like a fool is another.

And to you, this is a good use of taxpayer money? :wall:

Because she really poses a threat? That's why she announced it and followed it by a message about love.
 
nala|1485145681|4118374 said:
ruby59|1485144959|4118370 said:
lovedogs|1485141405|4118342 said:
Elliot86|1485137565|4118314 said:
Thank goodness people actually put in the time to do their research, rather than drop shame bombs and then claim to be too busy to back them up.

I have been a longtime fan of Al Franken. I became even more of a fan watching him school Betsy DeVos.

Seriously. I'm sorry, but it's a little silly to get hurt/defensive when you write about how ashamed Madonna should be, and then someone comes in and disagrees. She (I'm assuming gender, sorry if I'm wrong) did her research--good for her.



https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/01/22/secret-service-plans-to-investigate-madonna-for-saying-she-wants/21660213/

So glad to read that she is being investigated. Free speech is one thing. Acting like a fool is another.

And to you, this is a good use of taxpayer money? :wall:

Because she really poses a threat? That's why she announced it and followed it by a message about love.

Too many tragedies have occurred in our country because they were taken as just talk.

Do I think she will blow up the White House? No.

Could her ramblings incite some unbalanced person to try it? Who knows?

I am glad that they are at least showing that there are repercussions for everyone, even those in Hollyweird.
 
When I think about domestic terrorism, I confess the image of Madonna never once pops into my head. :lol: I'm sorry, guys, I agree that what she said was stupid and careless. But does anyone SERIOUSLY think that Madonna literally wants to blow up the white house? Would I think that, like, Clint Eastwood or James Woods poses a real threat to national security if they said the same thing during the Obama years? Come on.
 
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