Looking to purchase and need some help

[diamondseeker2006]

Wow thank you so much for all of the information. It is so hard to fathom that some of the ebay auctions that the seller has 1,000+ great feedback and what you speak of.

I am going to try and get in touch with my friends father whose been in the industry for over 30 years in whole sale and see what he can do .

I love that item you showed me but honestly just need the diamond and will have it set. I know that the setting would basically be free with that purchase but i don't need it.

Well, you will be making the most grave error of all if you deal with the friend's father who works in wholesale. I've been on here for more than 6 years and I have only seen one situation work out okay when dealing with a friend of the family, friend of a friend, a wholesaler, etc. Almost every time, the person overpayed and ending up with a mediocre or bad diamond. A wholesaler who sells to the public is not a wholesaler.

If you want a good diamond at a fair retail price (lower than typical jewelry stores), you can come back here and we will show you what you can get in a well cut stone for your budget.

 

[hotskate]

Wow thank you so much for all of the information. It is so hard to fathom that some of the ebay auctions that the seller has 1,000+ great feedback and what you speak of.

I am going to try and get in touch with my friends father whose been in the industry for over 30 years in whole sale and see what he can do .

I love that item you showed me but honestly just need the diamond and will have it set. I know that the setting would basically be free with that purchase but i don't need it.

Well, you will be making the most grave error of all if you deal with the friend's father who works in wholesale. I've been on here for more than 6 years and I have only seen one situation work out okay when dealing with a friend of the family, friend of a friend, a wholesaler, etc. Almost every time, the person overpayed and ending up with a mediocre or bad diamond. A wholesaler who sells to the public is not a wholesaler.

If you want a good diamond at a fair retail price (lower than typical jewelry stores), you can come back here and we will show you what you can get in a well cut stone for your budget.

You are quick to jump on this guy and do not even know him he does not sell typically to the public at all but would be willing to sit down with me and show me a few dozen diamonds and explain all the differences pro's and con's etc.

 

[hotskate]

After I keep reading through all of the comments over and over again i realized that i keep going away from what my girl ideally wants. A cushion cut diamond.

Is there any HCA type tool for cushion cut diamonds?

 

[hotskate]

What is the contact phone number for that lady with the estate sale ?

 

[Dancing Fire]

Wow thank you so much for all of the information. It is so hard to fathom that some of the ebay auctions that the seller has 1,000+ great feedback and what you speak of.

I am going to try and get in touch with my friends father whose been in the industry for over 30 years in whole sale and see what he can do .

I love that item you showed me but honestly just need the diamond and will have it set. I know that the setting would basically be free with that purchase but i don't need it.

Well, you will be making the most grave error of all if you deal with the friend's father who works in wholesale. I've been on here for more than 6 years and I have only seen one situation work out okay when dealing with a friend of the family, friend of a friend, a wholesaler, etc. Almost every time, the person overpayed and ending up with a mediocre or bad diamond. A wholesaler who sells to the public is not a wholesaler.

If you want a good diamond at a fair retail price (lower than typical jewelry stores), you can come back here and we will show you what you can get in a well cut stone for your budget.

You are quick to jump on this guy and do not even know him he does not sell typically to the public at all but would be willing to sit down with me and show me a few dozen diamonds and explain all the differences pro's and con's etc.

b/c 99.99% of the time the buyer get screwed by a friend of the family, friend of a friend, a so call diamond wholesaler.

 

[slg47]

After I keep reading through all of the comments over and over again i realized that i keep going away from what my girl ideally wants. A cushion cut diamond.

Is there any HCA type tool for cushion cut diamonds?

no, no HCA for cushions. you really need images to evaluate.

have you seen this video? it explains the different types of cushions. what type of cushion does she prefer?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O7H8E_MYRM

 

[OCmom3xboys]

YAP! So true...I will never buy another diamond without Pscopers' advice.

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Wow thank you so much for all of the information. It is so hard to fathom that some of the ebay auctions that the seller has 1,000+ great feedback and what you speak of.

I am going to try and get in touch with my friends father whose been in the industry for over 30 years in whole sale and see what he can do .

I love that item you showed me but honestly just need the diamond and will have it set. I know that the setting would basically be free with that purchase but i don't need it.

Well, you will be making the most grave error of all if you deal with the friend's father who works in wholesale. I've been on here for more than 6 years and I have only seen one situation work out okay when dealing with a friend of the family, friend of a friend, a wholesaler, etc. Almost every time, the person overpayed and ending up with a mediocre or bad diamond. A wholesaler who sells to the public is not a wholesaler.

If you want a good diamond at a fair retail price (lower than typical jewelry stores), you can come back here and we will show you what you can get in a well cut stone for your budget.

You are quick to jump on this guy and do not even know him he does not sell typically to the public at all but would be willing to sit down with me and show me a few dozen diamonds and explain all the differences pro's and con's etc.

b/c 99.99% of the time the buyer get screwed by a friend of the family, friend of a friend, a so call diamond wholesaler.[/quote]

 

[hotskate]

YAP! So true...I will never buy another diamond without Pscopers' advice.

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Wow thank you so much for all of the information. It is so hard to fathom that some of the ebay auctions that the seller has 1,000+ great feedback and what you speak of.

I am going to try and get in touch with my friends father whose been in the industry for over 30 years in whole sale and see what he can do .

I love that item you showed me but honestly just need the diamond and will have it set. I know that the setting would basically be free with that purchase but i don't need it.

Well, you will be making the most grave error of all if you deal with the friend's father who works in wholesale. I've been on here for more than 6 years and I have only seen one situation work out okay when dealing with a friend of the family, friend of a friend, a wholesaler, etc. Almost every time, the person overpayed and ending up with a mediocre or bad diamond. A wholesaler who sells to the public is not a wholesaler.

If you want a good diamond at a fair retail price (lower than typical jewelry stores), you can come back here and we will show you what you can get in a well cut stone for your budget.

You are quick to jump on this guy and do not even know him he does not sell typically to the public at all but would be willing to sit down with me and show me a few dozen diamonds and explain all the differences pro's and con's etc.

b/c 99.99% of the time the buyer get screwed by a friend of the family, friend of a friend, a so call diamond wholesaler.

[/quote]


This is why I am here it's just hard to not go with your initial Instinct. I am just trying to learn as much as possbile before making the purchase.

 

[hotskate]

I am realizing that it is more difficult to determine a good cushion cut diamond over a round. the HCA calculator is great and there is a lot more place online and here that have good recommendations for them.

 

[Mico]

After I keep reading through all of the comments over and over again i realized that i keep going away from what my girl ideally wants. A cushion cut diamond.

Is there any HCA type tool for cushion cut diamonds?

Don't forget why you came here and get lost in numbers, that is the best advice anyone can give you.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

What is the contact phone number for that lady with the estate sale ?

Which one are you talking about?

Listen, if she wants a cushion there are two sources of outstanding cushions and either can fix you up with the style setting she wants. Good Old Gold and Engagement Rings Direct have outstanding cushions. If I had to buy a loose cushion, I would look anywhere else! Both operate jewelry stores in NY but have websites as well. I have bought from Good Old Gold personally and think they are outstanding, and I understand ERD is as well. Honestly, this can be really easy if you look the right place. The problem is when someone wants a great 2 ct. stone for $10k or something! You have to accept the reality of current pricing and realize that bargains are hard to come by. You've been shown the best of the bargains of fine quality diamonds and rings that we know of. But if none of those is exactly what you want, then it would be SO easy to find you an outstanding cushion diamond and then a setting. You'll just have to go for a smaller diamond to fit your budget and maybe go down a little in color and clarity.

 

[hotskate]

What is the contact phone number for that lady with the estate sale ?

Which one are you talking about?

Listen, if she wants a cushion there are two sources of outstanding cushions and either can fix you up with the style setting she wants. Good Old Gold and Engagement Rings Direct have outstanding cushions. If I had to buy a loose cushion, I would look anywhere else! Both operate jewelry stores in NY but have websites as well. I have bought from Good Old Gold personally and think they are outstanding, and I understand ERD is as well. Honestly, this can be really easy if you look the right place. The problem is when someone wants a great 2 ct. stone for $10k or something! You have to accept the reality of current pricing and realize that bargains are hard to come by. You've been shown the best of the bargains of fine quality diamonds and rings that we know of. But if none of those is exactly what you want, then it would be SO easy to find you an outstanding cushion diamond and then a setting. You'll just have to go for a smaller diamond to fit your budget and maybe go down a little in color and clarity.

She does in fact want cushion cut. I realize i will have to go down on something but I obviously want to make sure the CUT is as perfect as possible. The bargains that everyone found me was awesome but none were cushion cut and more specifically diamond only. etc.
Thank you again so much for taking the time out of your day to help me.

 

[slg47]

if you are looking for loose diamond suggestions

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1378244.asp
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1462551.asp

http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/8890/
http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/9045/

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/modern-x-factor-cushion-gid-81843.html
http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/this-cut-beyond-vintage-cushion-has-been-reserved.-gid-81277.html (this one has been reserved but perhaps you could inquire about a similar one if you like this style cushion)

 

[diamondseeker2006]

If she wants that antique style setting, the antique style cushions are going to be the most beautiful. This stone comes closest to your specs and budget and is an absolutely gorgeous stone. It will also be the perfect shape to fit the kind of setting you showed us.

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/1.50-carat-f-vs2-a-cut-beyond-cushion-cut-diamond-gid-85474.html

The one thing you do need to know is that cushions are deeper than rounds and therefore face up smaller for the same weight. That is why a lot of people choose halo settings like the Daniel K I showed you because it makes the stone look larger.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

She does in fact want cushion cut. I realize i will have to go down on something but I obviously want to make sure the CUT is as perfect as possible. The bargains that everyone found me was awesome but none were cushion cut and more specifically diamond only. etc.
Thank you again so much for taking the time out of your day to help me.

You are very welcome! We will help you until you find the perfect diamond and setting! Just want to be sure we are on the same page, though. That Daniel K ring was a cushion cut....I know you want a loose diamond but that one was a cushion cut, just to be sure we are talking about the same thing.

 

[hotskate]

If she wants that antique style setting, the antique style cushions are going to be the most beautiful. This stone comes closest to your specs and budget and is an absolutely gorgeous stone. It will also be the perfect shape to fit the kind of setting you showed us.

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/1.50-carat-f-vs2-a-cut-beyond-cushion-cut-diamond-gid-85474.html

The one thing you do need to know is that cushions are deeper than rounds and therefore face up smaller for the same weight. That is why a lot of people choose halo settings like the Daniel K I showed you because it makes the stone look larger.

You make a valid pint about the HALo makes the diamond look bigger. THat is one thing that i want to stay away from personally becuase I do not want to take away from the diamond it self and really am not a big fan of the halo look as everyone has it. She is not a fan either.

Personally i would like to do a traditional round but I have learned already whatever she wants I will get

 

[hotskate]

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/modern-x-factor-cushion-gid-81843.html

I love that X look. I like it because at the bottom of the "cutlet" or whaever term I am trying to use, you cant see though the diamond ot whatever is behind it

 

[Christina...]

Yum! You've received a lot of great choices! You really can't go wrong with any of these diamonds, they are all amazing!!

It sounds like you've decided to go with a cushion, and I think that the best idea especially since that is what your gf would really like to have, but this is the website to the round that you liked http://jewelsbyericagrace.com/modern_and_estate_rings just scroll to the bottom of the page and you will see it.

Now that you've seen the cost of a well cut loose diamond, you can see why these completed rings that we posted for you are such an incredible value. It's unfortunate that none of them are exactly what you are looking for because you would be saving several thousand dollars on these incredible settings. I know that you posted an example of the setting style that she likes, but have you looked around to see just how costly settings can be? Just so that you are aware and can factor into your budget.

 

[hotskate]

Yum! You've received a lot of great choices! You really can't go wrong with any of these diamonds, they are all amazing!!

It sounds like you've decided to go with a cushion, and I think that the best idea especially since that is what your gf would really like to have, but this is the website to the round that you liked http://jewelsbyericagrace.com/modern_and_estate_rings just scroll to the bottom of the page and you will see it.

Now that you've seen the cost of a well cut loose diamond, you can see why these completed rings that we posted for you are such an incredible value. It's unfortunate that none of them are exactly what you are looking for because you would be saving several thousand dollars on these incredible settings. I know that you posted an example of the setting style that she likes, but have you looked around to see just how costly settings can be? Just so that you are aware and can factor into your budget.

AS I keep looking at that ring i keep seeing imperfections i know its an Si2 but i am interested how they can say it is eye clean if you can clearly see imperfections with a very good photo?


This is not as easy as i thought it would be lol.

has anyone worked with Diamond house in scottsdale AZ?

 

[slg47]

Yum! You've received a lot of great choices! You really can't go wrong with any of these diamonds, they are all amazing!!

It sounds like you've decided to go with a cushion, and I think that the best idea especially since that is what your gf would really like to have, but this is the website to the round that you liked http://jewelsbyericagrace.com/modern_and_estate_rings just scroll to the bottom of the page and you will see it.

Now that you've seen the cost of a well cut loose diamond, you can see why these completed rings that we posted for you are such an incredible value. It's unfortunate that none of them are exactly what you are looking for because you would be saving several thousand dollars on these incredible settings. I know that you posted an example of the setting style that she likes, but have you looked around to see just how costly settings can be? Just so that you are aware and can factor into your budget.

AS I keep looking at that ring i keep seeing imperfections i know its an Si2 but i am interested how they can say it is eye clean if you can clearly see imperfections with a very good photo?


This is not as easy as i thought it would be lol.

has anyone worked with Diamond house in scottsdale AZ?

eye clean has a different meaning for everybody...so check with the vendor.

keep in mind that the photo is HUGE and the actual diamond is only 8.25 mm.

 

[kristalulu]

Here are a couple cushions with warmer colors yet have the carat weight you would like:

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/2.08-carat-i-vs2-a-cut-beyond-cushion-cut-diamond-gid-77137.html
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8584/
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9198/

And some more:
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9045/
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8890/
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9313/
http://www.micropave.com/index.php/loose-diamonds/2-02-h-si1-cushion-diamond.html
I think this is it on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h3ZeDjiAoc&feature=plcp

(I apologize if anyone suggested these already )

 

[Mico]

Here are a couple cushions with warmer colors yet have the carat weight you would like:

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/2.08-carat-i-vs2-a-cut-beyond-cushion-cut-diamond-gid-77137.html
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8584/
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9198/

And some more:
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9045/
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8890/
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9313/
http://www.micropave.com/index.php/loose-diamonds/2-02-h-si1-cushion-diamond.html
I think this is it on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h3ZeDjiAoc&feature=plcp

(I apologize if anyone suggested these already )

these are very nice options. The human eye can't tell the different between one color shade, so a G vs an H will seem identical and maybe even an I (I didn't notice much of a difference between I and H when I looked). Larger jumps are noticable like a G to a J or K. Another thing you can look for is a lower carat weight with a nice spread. We are currently looking at diamonds and going just under the 2ct mark with an expected 2 ct spread which cuts your costs down. The ct. weight doesn't matter as much as spread and cut in those situations. (better cuts look larger)

also, find the setting she loves and look to see if something similar goes on sale. I spent the better half of 2 months going between settings until I picked a "top 3" that my boyfriend is going to pick between for me. I'm now looking to see if that simple setting is ever on sale so I can snatch it up and add to my diamond fund

 

[hotskate]

Here are a couple cushions with warmer colors yet have the carat weight you would like:

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/2.08-carat-i-vs2-a-cut-beyond-cushion-cut-diamond-gid-77137.html
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8584/
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9198/

And some more:
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9045/
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8890/
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9313/
http://www.micropave.com/index.php/loose-diamonds/2-02-h-si1-cushion-diamond.html
I think this is it on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h3ZeDjiAoc&feature=plcp

(I apologize if anyone suggested these already )

these are very nice options. The human eye can't tell the different between one color shade, so a G vs an H will seem identical and maybe even an I (I didn't notice much of a difference between I and H when I looked). Larger jumps are noticable like a G to a J or K. Another thing you can look for is a lower carat weight with a nice spread. We are currently looking at diamonds and going just under the 2ct mark with an expected 2 ct spread which cuts your costs down. The ct. weight doesn't matter as much as spread and cut in those situations. (better cuts look larger)

also, find the setting she loves and look to see if something similar goes on sale. I spent the better half of 2 months going between settings until I picked a "top 3" that my boyfriend is going to pick between for me. I'm now looking to see if that simple setting is ever on sale so I can snatch it up and add to my diamond fund

Thank you! These are great options, obviously the more options the better i do like how goodoldolgd shows the imperfections right on the picture with arrows etc.
right now i am inbetween two settings that i probably will just have a local jewler that i have worked with in the past make it for me. I should be out about $2,000 for that based on what he has said for it to be set in platinum.

The center stone is my major worry/concern right now.

 

[Mico]

I know you want loose stones buuuut.... here's a set , maybe if you like the stone the seller will sell it alone?

http://diamondbistro.com/category/216/Natural-Diamond-Center/listings/28506/LMege-Classic-Solitaire-Diamond-engagement-ring.html

her original SMTB post: [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/lilygirl-did-it-presenting-big-poppa.157509/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/lilygirl-did-it-presenting-big-poppa.157509/[/URL]

diamond bistro is a good site for you to browse too

 

[hotskate]

http://www.adiamor.com/Diamonds/H-VS2-Excellent-Cut-Cushion-Diamond/D14835978

Thoughts? without being able to use that HCA calculator its hard to know whats good etc. Obivously seeing it with your own two eyes is needed!

 

[hotskate]

If you want a Hearts and Arrows cut in a square shape then a Princess of Hearts could work. AGS Ideal 000 great rocks with the optics of a round. There's a few listed below. I found mine this way but had Good old Gold secure the stones and do a full analysis on them ( ASETS, H&A images, Megascope ) just to be sure everything was good to go as the price on these rocks is about 40% below market value. They'll honor the prices listed at JA:

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VS1-Very Good-Cut-Radiant-Diamond-1466063.asp

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VVS2-Very Good-Cut-Radiant-Diamond-1481176.asp
- faint fluoro will make this H a G

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VS1-Very Good-Cut-Radiant-Diamond-1444702.asp
- no pic but this rock is part of the series above


Here's my thread explaining how I got my rock and why they're on sale at liquidation prices:

https://www.pricescope.com/forum/rockytalky/princess-of-hearts-on-fire-sale-t174926.html

good luck, if you're in the right place at the right time deals just pop up!

I was actually just reading your other thread a little while ago. So talk to me explain. How can i get a "rock" at a liquidation price?

 

[hotskate]

I need your thoughts on this please

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1489091.asp

 

[hotskate]

Like many guys in the same boat, when the diamond trek began, the only thing I knew was that they were expensive. I started out looking for a Princess, and like you did the rounds at wholesalers here in Toronto, getting "buzzed in" and looking at loose diamonds. However the pricing these guys and gals were offering really wasn't impressive. I liked the James Allen site because you could see pictures of the stones. I went rain man-style and started learning as much as I could about diamond quality, here on Pricescope, and ultimately coming across Jonathan's videos posted on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCw0xvUAuIs

It just started to make sense that the cut of a diamond was tantamount in determining it's quality and performance. So I switched gears and started looking at cut quality first and foremost. When those crisp shots of the Princess of Hearts popped out amidst the "crushed ice" I knew they were something special. The only way I was going to feel good about dropping thousands of dollars for an online diamond was to have the empirical data to back things up.

Since I'd been speaking with the folks at Good Old Gold I knew they'd do the ASET's, H&A imagery, and Megascope. So I called them up and they sourced the stones, brought them in-house, and did their thing, all the while providing absolutely fantastic service. The GOG staff provide an experience that's in-line with a large-dollar-figure purchase. Many of the diamonds listed online are accessible by the various vendors ( Whiteflash, James Allen, Blue Nile ). GOG specializes in well cut stones, so they will verify the quality and send you videos of those particular diamonds.

Give them a call and they'll explain why this series of diamonds is available at these prices. There's about 10 of 'em, then when those are gone it'll be tough to find a square hearts and arrows anywhere near this level.

I might be completely slow or something but this isn't making sense to me. so you are saying that GOG should have what i am looking for for a fraction of the price? sorry i am so confused

 

[Mico]

Agreed, those look like good options, I'd contact them.

Makes me re-think my round fetish

 

[hotskate]

How much did it run you? What about the diamond I found from James Allen?

What's wrong or different from the gog diamond you speak of vs the one I posted?