Looking for advice about cut

[chappy]

I'll be in the market for a diamond soon, and so far I've got 3 of the 4 C's figured out:

Carat: Definitely under 1, because it's for a daily ring and I work with my hands a lot. Around 0.8 would be perfect.
Color: EFG range, most preferably G. Don't like D because too white, don't like H in platinum.
Clarity: VVS - VS range, preferably VS1. A bit of flaw is good as long as it doesn't hurt structural integrity.

Cut, however, I am still about. I definitely want a round brilliant, but I don't care about the H&A pattern. I could go with CBI/ACA and be done with it, but would like to know if there are other options for the very best in scintillation and brilliance, if symmetry is not a concern. I want something interesting to look at that sparkles a lot!

However, I am not after fire, so does this mean I should actually be looking for shallower crowns with larger tables?

I also don't care about trade-in policies because I am not going to ever upgrade, it will be a forever piece. I do have a long timeline to search for this perfect diamond, no hurry to get it right! And for this size range, budget is not a concern.

Any advice is much appreciated!

 

[farrahlyn]

i would probably recommend a 60/60 style stone, they tend to have more white flashes of light vs fire. Without knowing your budget i didn't look too far but grabbed these:

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...-color-vvs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4913870

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...-color-vvs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4533165

ETA: You still do not want to give up on cut, polish or symetry. this will attribute to the sparkle you are going for

 

[chappy]

Thanks for the links! I have heard 60/60 stones give off more white flashes, but will a random JA stone sparkle more than a super ideal cut? Is there such a thing as super ideal 60/60 (like the CBI/ACA)?

Budget doesn't matter, I'll only draw the line at custom cutting something! I just want the most sparkle and character at this size. I don't hate fire but would prioritize white flashes over color.

 

[Lorelei]

Thanks for the links! I have heard 60/60 stones give off more white flashes, but will a random JA stone sparkle more than a super ideal cut? Is there such a thing as super ideal 60/60 (like the CBI/ACA)?

Budget doesn't matter, I'll only draw the line at custom cutting something! I just want the most sparkle and character at this size. I don't hate fire but would prioritize white flashes over color.

Not to my knowledge are there any branded Superideals cut with 60% tables. Farrah is right, we could look for some nice 60 60 stones which could fit the bill if you're sure that going for a branded Superideal isn't the best way forward for you, have you seen any in person though to compare?

 

[chappy]

I'm actually leaning towards going for branded superideal for peace of mind, just wondering while I'm shifting through the options if I should look for bigger tables/etc to maximize scintillation/brilliance. Would love to learn more details about the ratios, percentages in regards to the kind of personality a diamond gives off!

ie, if two diamonds are the exact same weight and all else being equal, would a shallower diamond with larger face-up dimensions definitely give off more white light vs colored sparkle?

 

[skypie]

Curious, would you prefer that your diamond be asymmetrical?

 

[ecf8503]

https://www.goodoldgold.com/0-90ct-fvs2-tiffany-engagement-ring

 

[rockysalamander]

ie, if two diamonds are the exact same weight and all else being equal, would a shallower diamond with larger face-up dimensions definitely give off more white light vs colored sparkle?

No. A 60/60 stones has a depth and table close to 60%. It still needs a well paired crown and pavilion angle to perform well and provide a brilliant light return (white light). Most branded super-ideals are cut to balance brilliance and fire...but within very tight cutting parameters. So, with super-ideals, you won't get more brilliance with wider tables or shallow cuts.

If you really like brilliance, have you seen old European cuts in person? High color and clarity are a bit more rare to find, but are certainly out there. Also, old cuts hide body color much better than modern rounds. One this is that they tend to have higher crowns and were cut by hand, so look at the spread in mm to compare to modern rounds.

Examples.{click on the videos}
https://www.jewelsbygrace.com/80ct-oec-diamond-gia-g-vs2
https://www.jewelsbygrace.com/85ct-old-european-cut-diamond-gia-g-vs2
https://www.jewelsbygrace.com/70ct-old-european-cut-diamond-gia-h-vs1-1149
https://www.jewelsbygrace.com/96ct-old-european-cut-diamond-gia-g-vs1