Looking for a new engagement ring

[flippingdiamonds]

Hi, I'm new here but I've been lurking around here as a guest. I'm looking to upgrade my engagement ring to 3-4 carat diamond ring. Budget is around $35K but I'm not sure how much a 4 carat ring runs for. Not sure what style or anything. Can someone help me out?

Looking at this diamond http://idjewelryonline.com/diamond_details1.php?id=36564476&shape=B&pricefrom=0&priceto=500000&caratfrom=0.00&caratto=4&colorfrom=D&colorto=M&clarfrom=IF&clarto=I1&polish=ANY&cert=Any&symmetry=ANY&depthfrom=&depthto=&tablefrom=&tableto=&cut=Array&item_id=

 

[Dreamer_D]

Thanks, I needed a good chuckle.

 

[flippingdiamonds]

You are welcome.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Thanks, I needed a good chuckle.

And so future future readers do not think me a complete jerk, in the original post the OP wanted a 4 carat diamond for $12k, which I assumed must be a joke. The post has since been edited.

OP your budget is still low for 4ct. A budget of $35k will likely buy you about 2-2.5ct depending on specs, in a well cut stone with a reliable lab report

The diamond you link has an EGL report which I would not typically recommend because it is not good value for consumers.

 

[flippingdiamonds]

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/K-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1389890.asp

I'm little worried about the color...K. Is that a bad choice. This one is GIA certified

 

[slg47]

as far as bad choice...depends on your personal preferences. you will likely see some tint in a K of that size.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

So after Dreamer's little chuckle, the budget changed from $12k to $35k? I am thinking we may as well change it to $50k so we can see some really great stones on this thread!

 

[armywife13]

Thanks, I needed a good chuckle.

And so future future readers do not think me a complete jerk, in the original post the OP wanted a 4 carat diamond for $12k, which I assumed must be a joke. The post has since been edited.

OP your budget is still low for 4ct. A budget of $35k will likely buy you about 2-2.5ct depending on specs, in a well cut stone with a reliable lab report

The diamond you link has an EGL report which I would not typically recommend because it is not good value for consumers.

I saw that change too.

 

[Gypsy]

So after Dreamer's little chuckle, the budget changed from $12k to $35k? I am thinking we may as well change it to $50k so we can see some really great stones on this thread!

Yeah, it would help if we knew that this was a real request and had a realistic budget to work with. Otherwise, if it is a real request, but that's the budget then I'm going to have to agree that the expected carat weight needs to be adjusted to 2.5 carats.

 

[flippingdiamonds]

Ok I will start looking for some 2.5 carat diamonds instead. Better color and clarity

 

[Gypsy]

So you are serious about wanting the nicest round brilliant you can afford on a 35k budget?

Can you tell me why you picked the nickname you did? Flipping Diamonds is an interesting choice.

 

[Gypsy]

Best absolute cut possible? http://www.winkjones.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-infinity&id=841 by far the nicest cut stone you can find. Guarantee it.

Next best option: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9112/ Better color and probably eyeclean. The Isee isn't as high as I'd like for the price. But it's a nice stone. If it were me I'd rather have the Infinity, even with the lower color.

In budget option: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8920/

 

[Amys Bling]

Side note- I was so confused because I only saw the altered budget of 35- not the original of 12.

 

[MissGotRocks]

Thanks, I needed a good chuckle.

And so future future readers do not think me a complete jerk, in the original post the OP wanted a 4 carat diamond for $12k, which I assumed must be a joke. The post has since been edited.

OP your budget is still low for 4ct. A budget of $35k will likely buy you about 2-2.5ct depending on specs, in a well cut stone with a reliable lab report

The diamond you link has an EGL report which I would not typically recommend because it is not good value for consumers.

This was the way I saw the post - figured someone was just joking so I didn't respond.

 

[flippingdiamonds]

Best absolute cut possible? http://www.winkjones.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-infinity&id=841 by far the nicest cut stone you can find. Guarantee it.

Next best option: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9112/ Better color and probably eyeclean. The Isee isn't as high as I'd like for the price. But it's a nice stone. If it were me I'd rather have the Infinity, even with the lower color.

In budget option: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8920/

I like the one on wink jones. I will check that website out.

I have a dog that I love very much named Flip. And Im very fond of diamonds. Is there a problem with my name?

I apologize if you think that price was a joke. Thank you for laughing at me and being rude about it instead of correcting me. Like I said I'm new on here. I wasn't sure how much a 4 carat would cost so i put down 12k but I can well go over that price. Also, i wasnt just thinking about one diamond at that time, i was thinking like a few small ones to make up 4 ct. So shame on me for not looking it up first. I will probably seek for a different help source for now on.

 

[slg47]

what is your actual budget and what are your priorities about color/clarity/size? we can help you find something if we know what your budget is.

when you say smaller stones...are you looking to make a 3-stone ring?

 

[Mrs.W 514]

Yeah I agree with the OP people were a bit harsh on her! Clearly she is just trying to wade her way through the multitude of information presented and pick a beautiful diamond! There was no reason for some posters to be so rude, she stated in her OP that she was new and that she wasn't "sure how much a 4 carat ring runs for". We are here to help people not make them feel bad for not being as in the "know" and diamond obsessed as we are!
RANT OVER

Helpful things for OP

Here is an example of something in your carat range
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1371818.asp

Here is something in your price range
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1455180.asp

Here is something that is both on your price and carat range, but it is also something I would not consider because it is not eye clean (you are going to see inclusions) and the proportions are off so it isn't going to sparkle like you want.
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI2-Good-Cut-Round-Diamond-1397856.asp

Personally I would rather have a smaller diamond of higher quality than a larger stone of inferior quality. What is most important to you? High color, clarity, carat(size) or cut (sparkle)? You should go to a jewelry store and try on some different diamonds of different sizes and qualities to get a real feel for what matters most to you. Here is an article you might find helpful
https://www.pricescope.com/journal/laboratory_cut_grades_what_report_doesn’t_show

Happy Shopping and please come back and give us a second try, not all of us bite

 

[Gypsy]

Hi, don't leave please. I really thought you were an old poster who signed up under a different name, that's why I asked. Your name is similar to another's and I thought you might be them (sometimes passwords are hard to remember or something happens and people change their names).

The Infinity brand has some of the BEST cut diamonds anywhere in the world. Plus, having worked with Wink myself I know that he's a great vendor.

And we do get people who post funny posts like : I want a 2 carat stone for 2K. Or similar, so I'm sure Dreamer thought you were being funny.

We got off on the wrong foot, let's start again.

Hi FD, nice to meet you. If you want something with 4 cTW that is very different from 4 ct. Carat Total Weight on a piece means you are adding the sidestones and everything up to get the carat weight. 4 carats means you want a single stone with that carat weight.

So... what styles are you considering that you are thinking 4ctw?

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I'm sorry, too, if we misinterpreted your original post. You have to understand that sometimes people do come here and post things like that as a joke. Since you said you had been lurking, I just thought you would have seen people like sna77 and Andy Diamond shopping for 2.5 ct. diamonds in the $35-40k range. If you want a three stone ring, you can get more weight that way.

I'd suggest that you decide on a firm budget first. Then decide if you want a solitaire, three stone, or other. We would be happy to suggest stones for you once we know what you really want and how much you want to spend.

 

[flippingdiamonds]

Yeah I agree with the OP people were a bit harsh on her! Clearly she is just trying to wade her way through the multitude of information presented and pick a beautiful diamond! There was no reason for some posters to be so rude, she stated in her OP that she was new and that she wasn't "sure how much a 4 carat ring runs for". We are here to help people not make them feel bad for not being as in the "know" and diamond obsessed as we are!
RANT OVER

Helpful things for OP

Here is an example of something in your carat range
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1371818.asp

Here is something in your price range
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1455180.asp

Here is something that is both on your price and carat range, but it is also something I would not consider because it is not eye clean (you are going to see inclusions) and the proportions are off so it isn't going to sparkle like you want.
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI2-Good-Cut-Round-Diamond-1397856.asp

Personally I would rather have a smaller diamond of higher quality than a larger stone of inferior quality. What is most important to you? High color, clarity, carat(size) or cut (sparkle)? You should go to a jewelry store and try on some different diamonds of different sizes and qualities to get a real feel for what matters most to you. Here is an article you might find helpful
https://www.pricescope.com/journal/laboratory_cut_grades_what_report_doesn’t_show

Happy Shopping and please come back and give us a second try, not all of us bite

Thanks Mrs W. I will check out these diamonds. But I think I already got a very bad first impression here. I don't think it should matter how much a person knows or doesn't know about a diamond. Even if I person's budget is not realistic, there is no need to make someone feel meaningless or inane, joke or not a joke. Even asking the reason why I picked my name? The damage has already been done. Thanks for all the suggestions but I will seek help elsewhere

 

[slg47]

Yeah I agree with the OP people were a bit harsh on her! Clearly she is just trying to wade her way through the multitude of information presented and pick a beautiful diamond! There was no reason for some posters to be so rude, she stated in her OP that she was new and that she wasn't "sure how much a 4 carat ring runs for". We are here to help people not make them feel bad for not being as in the "know" and diamond obsessed as we are!
RANT OVER

Helpful things for OP

Here is an example of something in your carat range
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1371818.asp

Here is something in your price range
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1455180.asp

Here is something that is both on your price and carat range, but it is also something I would not consider because it is not eye clean (you are going to see inclusions) and the proportions are off so it isn't going to sparkle like you want.
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI2-Good-Cut-Round-Diamond-1397856.asp

Personally I would rather have a smaller diamond of higher quality than a larger stone of inferior quality. What is most important to you? High color, clarity, carat(size) or cut (sparkle)? You should go to a jewelry store and try on some different diamonds of different sizes and qualities to get a real feel for what matters most to you. Here is an article you might find helpful
https://www.pricescope.com/journal/laboratory_cut_grades_what_report_doesn’t_show

Happy Shopping and please come back and give us a second try, not all of us bite

Thanks Mrs W. I will check out these diamonds. But I think I already got a very bad first impression here. I don't think it should matter how much a person knows or doesn't know about a diamond. Even if I person's budget is not realistic, there is no need to make someone feel meaningless or inane, joke or not a joke. Even asking the reason why I picked my name? The damage has already been done. Thanks for all the suggestions but I will seek help elsewhere

fyi, 'flipping' diamonds can refer to buying at a low price and then selling for a profit.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Yes, recently we had a discussion on flipping diamonds or jewelry and the administrators decided to not allow us to do it. It was just a very strange coincidence that you would choose that name.

 

[LibbyLA]

flippingdiamonds,

You're probably gone by now, but just in case you're not.

Here's a 4+ carat ring for $32K. You'd have to like antique cuts (and I don't know whether this is a good quality example, or not, but others here can tell you) and "warm" stones, but you can have a diamond in your preferred size for your budget.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ESTATE-VINTAGE-PLATINUM-4-30ct-ROUND-BRILLIANT-DIAMOND-ENGAGEMENT-RING-/250998027562?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a70a5f52a

liz

 

[slg47]

flippingdiamonds,

You're probably gone by now, but just in case you're not.

Here's a 4+ carat ring for $32K. You'd have to like antique cuts (and I don't know whether this is a good quality example, or not, but others here can tell you) and "warm" stones, but you can have a diamond in your preferred size for your budget.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ESTATE-VINTAGE-PLATINUM-4-30ct-ROUND-BRILLIANT-DIAMOND-ENGAGEMENT-RING-/250998027562?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a70a5f52a

liz

that doesn't look like an antique cut to me...just a poorly cut RB. huge table, very shallow crown.

 

[LibbyLA]

slg47,

Oops! You're right. The description does say "brilliant cut". But it's a 4+ ct. diamond under OP's budget so it does show what OP could get in desired size for desired budget.

I wasn't looking for this in particular, it popped up in a search I ran. Thanks to the vintage/antique jewelry people and my new-to-me little six-stone OEC sparkly ring, I have antique stones on the brain. I'm just not knowledgeable. Sorry for the mistake, and thanks for making the correction.

liz

 

[slg47]

slg47,

Oops! You're right. The description does say "brilliant cut". But it's a 4+ ct. diamond under OP's budget so it does show what OP could get in desired size for desired budget.

I wasn't looking for this in particular, it popped up in a search I ran. Thanks to the vintage/antique jewelry people and my new-to-me little six-stone OEC sparkly ring, I have antique stones on the brain. I'm just not knowledgeable. Sorry for the mistake, and thanks for making the correction.

liz

oh no, i agree, definitely a large stone within the budget! I am not the most knowledgeable either, but this does not look like a well cut stone to me.

 

[flippingdiamonds]

Hi. I am still around. But I have already purchased a beautiful diamond, it was out of my price range but I had a little help thank you very much for all of your kind help.

 

[aussiemel]

I´m glad you found a diamond for your new ring What are the stats? Would love to see pictures if you have them.

 

[Amys Bling]

Hi. I am still around. But I have already purchased a beautiful diamond, it was out of my price range but I had a little help thank you very much for all of your kind help.

can't wait to see it!!

 

[flippingdiamonds]

Just wondering...I'm looking to buy my niece a 1/2 ct diamond solitaire pendant. Will there be a big difference between a G and H in color for a small stone? both are SI2, eye clean and sparkly but one is G and the other is H. Not sure if the color will be of big significance...