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Hi, I''m asking for any kind of help in finding the right upgrade ring. I''ve been doing some searching on many sites, particularly Brian Gavin''s, and stumbled upon a couple. The numbers are still a little confusing and sometimes I have that "it''s too good to be true" look. My priorities are: #1 (first and foremost) CUT - ideal or excellent (H&A too pricey for me) #2 carat - 1.2-1.5ct range, #3 color- K , #4 clarity - VS1-S2 (eye clean) ... Please stick within budget of $5k... Thanks in advance...
 
1.3 ct K, VS1, HCA=1.5, $4,699

The medium blue fluorescence may help the color.

Note, this is the first D-Z diamond I have ever seen in which GIA states: "K, faint brown".
Fortunately this vendor has a 30-day return policy, less shipping, if you are not happy with it.
 

How about this one ? I would get this FIC for myself if I could. It''s not a K though, it''s J. You will have to contact JA to see if it''s eye clean.


J SI1
 
Date: 3/30/2010 7:34:09 PM
Author: kenny
1.3 ct K, VS1, HCA=1.5, $4,699

The medium blue fluorescence may help the color.

Note, this is the first D-Z diamond I have ever seen in which GIA states: ''K, faint brown''.
Fortunately this vendor has a 30-day return policy, less shipping, if you are not happy with it.
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Kenny, funny I did run across that one too!!! I was a little put off with the faint brown color, so I passed on it. That was my first and last encounter with the ''faint brown'' color, I am hesitant about how that would present... Thanks anyways.
 
Date: 3/30/2010 7:40:43 PM
Author: dreamer_d


Date: 3/30/2010 7:34:09 PM
Author: kenny
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1.3 ct K, VS1
HCA = 1.5
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That is the winner by far. Put it on hold if you want to consider it! BGD does not have any Ks in the size you want right now and even at that color I do not think you will break 1.5ct for your budget.

Here is another:
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-45150.htm
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DD, I've seen you post quite a lot on here... If it was you, would you consider this one diamond listed by Erica Grace? The color is listed as L/M and although she doesn't have specs on it, would it be worth looking at? I know it will probably not face up white, but for that carat weight, if set into a setting specifically to showcase the color and look of it, I'm sure it'll be a gem... And what does she mean by "loose old mine cut"? I love RB only, does this fall into that category? Thanks.
http://www.jewelsbyericagrace.com/loose_antique_and_estate_diamonds
 
Have you checked out High Performance Diamonds yet? Wink is quite the "warm" diamond connoisseur.
 
Date: 3/30/2010 7:58:05 PM
Author: mlee980

Date: 3/30/2010 7:34:09 PM
Author: kenny
1.3 ct K, VS1, HCA=1.5, $4,699

The medium blue fluorescence may help the color.

Note, this is the first D-Z diamond I have ever seen in which GIA states: ''K, faint brown''.
Fortunately this vendor has a 30-day return policy, less shipping, if you are not happy with it.
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Kenny, funny I did run across that one too!!! I was a little put off with the faint brown color, so I passed on it. That was my first and last encounter with the ''faint brown'' color, I am hesitant about how that would present... Thanks anyways.
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Honestly, if that turns you off I am not sure a K is for you. That photo shows a lot of tint, but the diamond will look like that in some lights. I have owned a K and you cannot buy it hoping it will be colorless. You mut go into it *loving* warm diamonds, diamonds that are creamy to taupe to golden depending on the light.
 
Date: 3/30/2010 8:01:57 PM
Author: mlee980

Date: 3/30/2010 7:40:43 PM
Author: dreamer_d



Date: 3/30/2010 7:34:09 PM
Author: kenny
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1.3 ct K, VS1
HCA = 1.5
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That is the winner by far. Put it on hold if you want to consider it! BGD does not have any Ks in the size you want right now and even at that color I do not think you will break 1.5ct for your budget.

Here is another:
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-45150.htm
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DD, I''ve seen you post quite a lot on here... If it was you, would you consider this one diamond listed by Erica Grace? The color is listed as L/M and although she doesn''t have specs on it, would it be worth looking at? I know it will probably not face up white, but for that carat weight, if set into a setting specifically to showcase the color and look of it, I''m sure it''ll be a gem... And what does she mean by ''loose old mine cut''? I love RB only, does this fall into that category? Thanks.
http://www.jewelsbyericagrace.com/loose_antique_and_estate_diamonds
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I would buy from Erica Grace for sure!

BUT what is your ultimate goal here? What are your hopes for the diamond you buy? Do you want the biggest rock you can get for your budget? Is this your forever diamond? Give us some more information about your diamond plans/hopes and then I can give you a better opinion.
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Personally, I wouldn't be turned off AT ALL by the "faint brown" color GIA is calling that diamond. I think it sounds beautiful and intriguing. It is most likely a soft, lovely vintage, candlelight or antique lace color... off-white or ecru, if you will. Honestly, I think it looks like a GORGEOUS stone!!!

I would be turned off MUCH MORE by a K-colored diamond described in the cert as "faint yellow", personally.

Just my humble 2 cents!!!
 
Date: 3/30/2010 9:57:35 PM
Author: Lynn B
Personally, I wouldn''t be turned off AT ALL by the ''faint brown'' color GIA is calling that diamond. I think it sounds beautiful and intriguing. It is most likely a soft, lovely vintage, candlelight or antique lace color... off-white or ecru, if you will. Honestly, I think it looks like a GORGEOUS stone!!!

I would be turned off MUCH MORE by a K-colored diamond described in the cert as ''faint yellow'', personally.

Just my humble 2 cents!!!
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I agree. The diamond also has medium blue for which could be very interesting indeed!

I prefer diamonds that show brown or grey over yellow.
 
JBEG sells antique diamonds. Here is some information about the older cuts vs. the new (see link). PS might have an info page on them, too. I didn't look. Faceting, table size, stone proportions, etc. have evolved. Old Mine and Old European cuts have chunky facets, like GoodOldGold.com 's August Vintage diamonds. older cuts
 
DD, I''m hoping to get a sizable diamond that I could stick with for many, many years. I''m a complete sentimentalist and I''m very hesitant about upgrades. That''s why I''m leaning towards buying a heftier diamond carat with a lower clarity and K color vs. a higher color, higher clarity diamond. I''ve done a lot of looking around at the pictures of the J, K, L color diamonds and I do appreciate the warmer tones of the K''s, that''s why I am looking at that. My ideal would be a lower color, higher clarity, H&A or excellent cut diamond. Don''t get me wrong about the warmer colors, I like the older vintage looking diamonds. I haven''t seen a diamond with a brown tint to it and hesitant if it''s a positive or negative or if I prefer it to lets say a yellowish... Please help me in finding my dream diamond. I would rather wait and get the right diamond while saving rather than buy one now and upgrade in a year... Any suggestions is greatly appreciated!!!!
 
There just are not a lot of J, K, or lower color diamond available right now, at least nor in-house. I''m not sure whether that means that more were sold, or less of those were cut. James Allen tends to have stones that are not quite as well cut nor as clean as perhaps Good Old Gold or Whiteflash. Whiteflash used to rule in the J/K department, but I/J/K are scarce for some reason.
 
Hi, I just wanted to chime in here because I actually was the last owner of the K diamond from Whiteflash that dreamer posted. It is a beautiful stone, completely eye-clean, it was just a little too tinted for me. But I can honestly say it is a beautiful stone if you like K diamonds. Good luck in your search!!!!
 
Date: 4/1/2010 10:51:55 AM
Author: HeatherL
Hi, I just wanted to chime in here because I actually was the last owner of the K diamond from Whiteflash that dreamer posted. It is a beautiful stone, completely eye-clean, it was just a little too tinted for me. But I can honestly say it is a beautiful stone if you like K diamonds. Good luck in your search!!!!
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Cool! What do you have now?

I also say a video and photos of that K diamond when I was considering my mini-upgrade last fall, and it was stunning
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And noticably larger than the 1.2ct diamonds it was compared to.
 
Date: 3/30/2010 9:57:35 PM
Author: Lynn B
Personally, I wouldn''t be turned off AT ALL by the ''faint brown'' color GIA is calling that diamond. I think it sounds beautiful and intriguing. It is most likely a soft, lovely vintage, candlelight or antique lace color... off-white or ecru, if you will. Honestly, I think it looks like a GORGEOUS stone!!!

I would be turned off MUCH MORE by a K-colored diamond described in the cert as ''faint yellow'', personally.

Just my humble 2 cents!!!
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I wouldn''t be put off by the faint brown, either. I bought an M that was a faint brown with med blue fluorescense, and my daughter stole it from me, it was so gorgeous. We set in in rose gold, and it''s beautiful.
 
Date: 4/1/2010 7:32:56 AM
Author: HVVS
There just are not a lot of J, K, or lower color diamond available right now, at least nor in-house. I''m not sure whether that means that more were sold, or less of those were cut. James Allen tends to have stones that are not quite as well cut nor as clean as perhaps Good Old Gold or Whiteflash. Whiteflash used to rule in the J/K department, but I/J/K are scarce for some reason.
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I have noticed this too.

I still do not think you will crack the 1.5 mark for $5k. 1.3ct or if you are lucky, 1.4 may be the best you can find.
 
Date: 4/1/2010 2:32:51 AM
Author: mlee980
DD, I''m hoping to get a sizable diamond that I could stick with for many, many years. I''m a complete sentimentalist and I''m very hesitant about upgrades. That''s why I''m leaning towards buying a heftier diamond carat with a lower clarity and K color vs. a higher color, higher clarity diamond. I''ve done a lot of looking around at the pictures of the J, K, L color diamonds and I do appreciate the warmer tones of the K''s, that''s why I am looking at that. My ideal would be a lower color, higher clarity, H&A or excellent cut diamond. Don''t get me wrong about the warmer colors, I like the older vintage looking diamonds. I haven''t seen a diamond with a brown tint to it and hesitant if it''s a positive or negative or if I prefer it to lets say a yellowish... Please help me in finding my dream diamond. I would rather wait and get the right diamond while saving rather than buy one now and upgrade in a year... Any suggestions is greatly appreciated!!!!
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I wonder, is this one of any interest? It springs to mind because it ticks your boxes and I think it''s a beautiful stone:

http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-116ct-lsi1-diamond-gia-excellent-cut-grade-r3306/

Jen
 
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Date: 4/1/2010 7:39:56 PM
Author: mlee980


Date: 4/1/2010 10:51:55 AM
Author: HeatherL
Hi, I just wanted to chime in here because I actually was the last owner of the K diamond from Whiteflash that dreamer posted. It is a beautiful stone, completely eye-clean, it was just a little too tinted for me. But I can honestly say it is a beautiful stone if you like K diamonds. Good luck in your search!!!!
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Hi HeatherL, it's interesting to find that you are the previous owner of the lovely K diamond with a tint of brown. I was wondering if you have any real life photos of that diamond? I would love to see it and it would definitely be in my price range as it is a lifetime guarantee diamond that maybe somewhere down the road could be upgradable without a problem. Many thanks!!!
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If you are really interested, why don't you call GOG and ask them to film a video of the diamond for you? It will give you a much better feel for the color than photos
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ETA Heather owned the WF stone, not the GOG stone with the tint of brown
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Thanks for the suggestion DD, I just emailed them for one. I looked at BGD''s site and they had a couple listed. They have various ranges from 1.2-1.5, but I am hesitant as to the quality of them. i''ve narrowed a couple in ''excellent'' cut, and am looking at the BGD selected ones. Should I inquire on those as well? Thanks for your continuous help DD...
 
Date: 4/1/2010 8:19:46 PM
Author: mlee980
Thanks for the suggestion DD, I just emailed them for one. I looked at BGD''s site and they had a couple listed. They have various ranges from 1.2-1.5, but I am hesitant as to the quality of them. i''ve narrowed a couple in ''excellent'' cut, and am looking at the BGD selected ones. Should I inquire on those as well? Thanks for your continuous help DD...
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If they are not in house diamonds I do not believe they qualify for upgrading. I would personally stick with BGD signature diamonds to maintain the upgrade.
 
Dreamer, I now have a 1.32 J VS2 med blue flouro ES stone. I knew I was okay with J color, so I tried the K and it was just a little bit too much for me. Like you I am now thinking about going to around a 1.6, but it is so hard to justify the small size increase for the larger price..........So I am definitely looking forward to seeing what you end up getting.

Sorry for the treadjack.....

mlee980, I would definitely stick with an upgradeable stone, because you just never know when you may need it. I thought at first I could tolerate the k color, but after a few months I realized I was just not happy with it. So it is so nice to have the option of upgrading color, size, etc.
 
Date: 4/1/2010 10:54:37 PM
Author: HeatherL
Dreamer, I now have a 1.32 J VS2 med blue flouro ES stone. I knew I was okay with J color, so I tried the K and it was just a little bit too much for me. Like you I am now thinking about going to around a 1.6, but it is so hard to justify the small size increase for the larger price..........So I am definitely looking forward to seeing what you end up getting.
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I actually don''t think a big size jumo is happening any time soon, my budget just can''t stretch. But I have something else planned that I am very excited about
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mlee An upgrade saved my bacon just like Heathers when I tried a K. It was too tinted for me too so I upgraded.
 
Date: 4/1/2010 11:09:12 PM
Author: dreamer_d

Date: 4/1/2010 10:54:37 PM
Author: HeatherL
Dreamer, I now have a 1.32 J VS2 med blue flouro ES stone. I knew I was okay with J color, so I tried the K and it was just a little bit too much for me. Like you I am now thinking about going to around a 1.6, but it is so hard to justify the small size increase for the larger price..........So I am definitely looking forward to seeing what you end up getting.
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I actually don''t think a big size jumo is happening any time soon, my budget just can''t stretch. But I have something else planned that I am very excited about
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mlee An upgrade saved my bacon just like Heathers when I tried a K. It was too tinted for me too so I upgraded.
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DD & HealtherL, so do you suggest I get a J color instead? If I do that then I''d have to sacrifice a little clarity. What would you recommend? I don''t expect H&A, but excellent cut is a must, what is your opinion?
 
Its funny but I think the warm (brown tint) sepia tone is very attractive and I typically dislike any yellow in a stone. I think this GOG K would look stunning in rose gold or blackened white gold.
 
mlee, I think you probably should go out to a jewlery store and look at different stone colors, but also make sure they are GIA or AGS stones so that you can have a true feel for color. I had never seen a K before and I thought I would try it. But for me personally it was just too much. Everyone is different as to what they like, so really only you can make this decision. Hope this helps.....
 
Date: 4/2/2010 12:25:37 AM
Author: bgray
Its funny but I think the warm (brown tint) sepia tone is very attractive and I typically dislike any yellow in a stone. I think this GOG K would look stunning in rose gold or blackened white gold.
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Ditto. That looks like a stunning stone, and set right, it would be a knockout.
 
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