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My DH shared this with me and maybe it's already been shared on PS but if not here you go
Interesting but not surprising IMO
Interesting but not surprising IMO
Looks like almost everything for sale on LT is lab diamonds. Big, little, one-off sellers, vendors, etc. I do not recall it being like this. Either that is what the market wants or that is what nobody wants -- hard to tell on a re-sale forum.![]()
I think with LGD's cheaper prices, people spend less time thinking about what they want long term
i wonder if this will change in other parts of the world, where tradionally diamond rings are more modest
I live in a country where engagement rings are, carat wise, very modest: the market hasn't been strongly impacted by lab diamonds, people here still buy modest natural diamonds
From my perspective- people are thrilled to use 5-10% of their budget and get the same thing- leaving so much for a down payment, vacation, you name it.
I have not found people spending anywhere near as much on lab diamonds.
We are talking about people who can spend much higher sums if they chose to.
We still sell natural diamonds. But a fraction what we used to.
I’m sure other dealers are seeing the same thing
David, are dealers still able to make a living, if buyers are spending 5-10% of their former budgets? Are you selling more lab diamonds than you used to sell natural diamonds, or has your revenue dropped by 90-95%? Oh, maybe natural diamonds cost YOU so much that the profit on a lower-priced lab diamond is similar to the profit on a higher-priced natural diamond--is that it?
I love diamonds because they are so pretty and sparkly throwing rainbow colours. That’s why I also love Moissanite and Strontium Titanite.
Diamonds aren’t rare and there will always be a market for exceptional natural diamonds but now at least the “average punter” can afford to enjoy something big enough to see without it being “frozen spit”.
And I will add how I think it’s weird that people consider “lab” diamonds perfectly acceptable but a “lab” sapphire or ruby always gets a HUGE thumbs down.
i wonder if this will change in other parts of the world, where tradionally diamond rings are more modest
I live in a country where engagement rings are, carat wise, very modest: the market hasn't been strongly impacted by lab diamonds, people here still buy modest natural diamonds
And I will add how I think it’s weird that people consider “lab” diamonds perfectly acceptable but a “lab” sapphire or ruby always gets a HUGE thumbs down.
David, are dealers still able to make a living, if buyers are spending 5-10% of their former budgets? Are you selling more lab diamonds than you used to sell natural diamonds, or has your revenue dropped by 90-95%? Oh, maybe natural diamonds cost YOU so much that the profit on a lower-priced lab diamond is similar to the profit on a higher-priced natural diamond--is that it?
Really great questions. As far as the industry…. I’m scratching my head in a way. Like, how can these huge companies survive with such diminished income.
But I also notice that nowadays the majority of the large diamond companies on 47th street are owned by people in India.
Oligarchy at its finest. The people working in these offices in NYC stand 0 chance of working their way up the ladder. So sad. Some seem like virtual slaves.
So the owners of these companies can afford to wait- and take losses while the market settles.
Kind of like the huge vacant lots sitting some of the most valuable real estate in NYC. Fifth Avenue from 47- 46th streets - all the buildings have been razed.
The corner building used to have the nicest window on 47th street. Millions of dollars of gorgeous diamonds and jewelry in that window. The rent for that window? $50k a month!
Yet they tore that building down about two years back. And I see no plans of equipment to build something there as of yet.
Who could afford that?
But here we are.
For us - DiamondsbyLauren as a company ….
I’m the luckiest guy in the world.
We have a small office - the rent is pretty much what it was 10 years ago. I didn’t expand when we could have. I preferred to stay small and comfortable. That’s really paying off today.
We do a fraction of the volume we did years back but we’re still viable.
We now sell a lot more “regular “ engagement rings. Still some fancy colors… but now a lot more colorless lab diamonds.
Thanks for asking!!!