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scoozi

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Hi all, I am cosidering to but a 3ct. round diamond, VS2, ideal cut ...however, it is a J color. Any opinions on this stone. Will it loke really yellow if mounted on white gold or platinum. I''m really confused, some people say a J color looks pretty much white while others say it looks kinda yellow. any help would be truly appreciated.
 
Only trust YOUR eyes.
The most of the people here will tell you to buy H-SI1, but I prefer J-VS1.
Look at a lot of diamonds before buying.
 
I'm with Stephen - I love the *personality* of a well-cut J.
Everyone sees colors differently. I rarely see any yellow-ish tint at all to my J colored stone (and it's a fancy shape - well-cut RBs do face up whiter than fancy shapes). I/J's are more interesting & pleasing to my eye than the higher colors, but that's just me
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Others have said that they can see color beginning at H or above. And they don't happen to like the way it looks...
Your best bet would be to go look at the stone in a variety of lights & see if it's the perfect stone for you.
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I'm one of those people stephan!
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.... I actually won't go lower than a G (although an H jubilee might sound good too!).... b/c I can immediately see yellow and it drives my crazy.... I want my ice white!!! BUT, that said, different people can see different tints in a stone.... so the answer is- look at a J....bring it outside also..... and see what you think! It is true that a well cut stone will look much whiter face up...
 
I have a diamond that is J in color set in an all platinum setting and it looks very white. The only way I can tell is if closely compare side by side with my other diamonds (like G in color) and then it looks every so slightly warm. It never really looks "yellow" and for the money I think it is a great deal. Only negative thing I have heard is that as you increase in carat size the colors come through more (but again I think it has to be slight).
 
A J can be amazing--the quality of the cut has a lot to do with it. I have earrings with 4 well-cut .25 ct J RBs and they are fireballs with no yellow. Look at the stone in different lighting and decide if YOU are happy with it.
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I just bought a 1.3 K VS2 from superbcert (its being set right now, I'll write more about it when I get the ring back). Like you, I had many many reservations about buying a low colored stone. When I first got it, I had no idea it was colored. Then, I compared it witht the D/E/F colored CZ I got with my idealscope and it became obvious that it is slightly tinted. However, face up, with good light (sunlight, halogen, etc) its almost as white as the CZ because it has so much brilliance! I don't think she'll be able to tell its a K unless I put a much whiter stone right next to it.
 
In general, a J color stone does not set well in white gold or platinum. It also depends on the lab that gave it that grading (some labs are stricter than others).
 
I have seen a picture of K diamond mounted in one of the posts and it looked AMAZINGLY white. I know it depends how sensitive each person is to color but then again it brilliant. I'm hoping that with an ideal cut and the diamond being round I can step down to the J color and still have it look white. Good luck rothko with your ring.
 
Many of my clients prefer the warmer colored stones, many prefer the absolute absence of color. We can not answer your question without seeing the stones. I sold one certificated (GIA) H color that I put on the sales receipt that I felt it was a J color. I have sold K colored stones that faced whiter than that one.

As was so correctly stated above, look at the stone, and let your eyes, and your heart tell you if it is the right stone or not.

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Hey there:

I was just out yesterday looking for myself--at the very kind of stones you are inquiring about. I saw ranges of stones from F-K color, 2.5-4.05CTW solitares. All very well made stones, and I liked them all.

What the vendor suggested to me was to do the "dirt test" on the stones (put your fingers all over the stone to get it "dirty") and see THEN how it faces up in the light and also under the table. This is where one may notice a difference in colors, where the stone might appear darker or oiler than might appear a F color with the same kind of "dirt" on it. From this I acertained that a stone of "less white" color, might tolerate the everyday wear and dirt--in that it could potentially look dirtier more often. Anyway, I certainly did the "dirt" test with all the color of stones, and I really couldn't see major oily appearances--but my eye is not as trained as some I suppose. However, I certainly could see the difference B/T a F and K--yet it didn't bother me as the cuts were so fine.
Hope this makes sense.

slb
 
I saw the diamond loose and looked pretty much white, just hint of yellow in some angles. If it's true that when mounted it will look whiter that would be AMAZING!!! is there a big difference in the color of a diamond after it has been mounted?
 
I just bought a J-colored stone, it's an AGS graded H&A. I feel confident that it'll face up white and that's the important thing to me. I think in a super ideal cut diamond, a J color is a great value.

To me, it was either get a very well cut I color, or get a super ideal cut J color -- of course, I chose the latter.
 
I have a gorgeous 1.25 carat J color diamond set in platinum. It's not yellow at all. But, my diamond was cut from steely blue color hue rough. Diamond rough comes in all sorts of colors. Yellow and brown are the most common, but there is a whole range of colors. J is not very tinted looking thru the pavillion. If the diamond is well cut, face up, a J will appear white and bright almost all the time. You have to remember, the diamond will be complimented by skin tones as well.

Ditto's to the comments that you should look at well cut, lower color diamonds to decide if J will work for you. If J color does, you will get big bang for your buck. J color diamonds represent great value to maximize your budget and/or get a larger diamond.
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Hi! I have a J colored center stone that faces up very white (to me, anyway, and I absolutely love it!) but the true test will be when you see it for yourself. Here's a pic of my J stone which is set in white gold in the sunlight--on cloudy days, it's even whiter! Good luck!


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it looks BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!..AND REALLY WHITE!!, did u notice any difference in its color before and after mounting? thanks a lot for sharing
 
Nothing wrong with a J color. All diamonds appear darker once they are set up.
 
scoozi,

I didn't see the stone unmounted since my fiance surprised me with the ring and the proposal! But he did see it unmounted, and the jeweler let him take the stone outside the store into real light so he could make sure it was white enough for his eyes and to make sure it wasn't all the store lighting affecting the color and sparkle!

There are very few times when I notice the hint of color, and I still love it! It will really depend on how much you notice, and only your eyes will be the best judge of that! Good luck with everything, and make sure to post your ring when it's finally done!!

Alicia
 
I think you could see for yourself what this stone will look like mounted - just ask the jeweler to show you - it should be possible to find some unfinished mounting in the whole store to do the trick. One can just place the stone between those prongs without tightening the - right? And then there are stone holders that could simmulate the same. All you need is some white metal 'prongs' around the stone to get an idea.

I don't think the mounting would make the worst come out, quite on the contrary.
 
Graded properly a "J" graded diamond will face up white.

I’ve seen this consistent in GIA graded diamonds.

Fluorescence will give it a touch of white also
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If you are mounting it in yellow gold than J color would look great,But... if you are mounting it in white metal,I recommend not going below an H-I color,as many of the J colors would have a tinge of yellow when mounted in white metals.look for an I vs2 or an H si1 you'll should not see any hint of yellow.
 
Set the diamond in a white gold head no matter what metal you place it in.

Do yourself a favor and go to a Jewelry store and ask to see a GIA graded diamond, not EGL or IGI lab reports; but GIA graded diamonds , look at them H , I, J face up (that is how you are going to see them in the real world we live in) You will not see a difference! A trained eye looking against white paper on the diamonds side, yes! But we live in the real world, that luxury does not exist when the ring is mounted .

Its your money, take all the advice you get here and apply it to the real world and see what works for you
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Enjoy what you have learned.
 
Maybe Im wrong? Or my stock is undergraded ? or maybe Im right ?

Time to go to work
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On 4/28/2004 8:53:29 AM diamondsman wrote:

If you are mounting it in yellow gold than J color would look great,But... if you are mounting it in white metal,I recommend not going below an H-I color,as many of the J colors would have a tinge of yellow when mounted in white metals.look for an I vs2 or an H si1 you'll should not see any hint of yellow.----------------


Here's my J color diamond set in platinum. Where's the yellow???

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And another pic that I shot.

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I just want to add that it will depend on what YOU see! Everyone is different. I, personally, can spot a J over an H immediately....set or unset....But that said, I have "color" issues! LOL.... If you find a J you love, go for it!
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Scoozi, I'm just catching up on all the threads here. What was the verdict on your decision?
 
I'm interested to know as well! I bought an "I" stone, and even though I'm sensitive to color (I think my friend's "G" looks yellow) my stone faces up unbelievably white (and has no fluorescence)! At any rate, I'd love to know how your "J" turned out!!!
 
PQ your ring looks fantastic. I too have seen great J color diamonds that look really white. I'm thinking of getting one myself so I can put more money into the size of the daimond.
 
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