J color.. More questions, seeking advice

[fr8train]

Hello,

After some recommendations from fellow PS''ers I went to 2 differet B&M''s to look at J''s. The 1st in no way tried to talk me out of looking at this color, she actually brought an M out for me to see. Honestly, all I saw was a very,very slight warmth to the stone. The second didn''t want to show me anything above a G since it was going in white metal. After a few minutes she showed me an H (it was either IGI or EGL, I forget) and I questioned the whole grading system etc.. So finally, out comes a .75 J from EGL or IGI (again, I can''t remember). In the store which had all different types of lighting all I saw was a very slight tint, not even a yellow however all were equally as brilliant. When I asked to go outside and put them in a mock setting... They were white as can be! I asked her to prove me wrong and put it beside her e-ring and could tell no difference. So know what else do I need to look for? I''m really considering a 1.2 J from a PS vendor , I have the Idealscope and ASET and they look great..Any other concerns I need to be aware of with a higher color?? Thanks

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/29/2009 9:24:58 AM
Author:fr8train
Hello,

After some recommendations from fellow PS'ers I went to 2 differet B&M's to look at J's. The 1st in no way tried to talk me out of looking at this color, she actually brought an M out for me to see. Honestly, all I saw was a very,very slight warmth to the stone. The second didn't want to show me anything above a G since it was going in white metal. After a few minutes she showed me an H (it was either IGI or EGL, I forget) and I questioned the whole grading system etc.. So finally, out comes a .75 J from EGL or IGI (again, I can't remember). In the store which had all different types of lighting all I saw was a very slight tint, not even a yellow however all were equally as brilliant. When I asked to go outside and put them in a mock setting... They were white as can be! I asked her to prove me wrong and put it beside her e-ring and could tell no difference. So know what else do I need to look for? I'm really considering a 1.2 J from a PS vendor , I have the Idealscope and ASET and they look great..Any other concerns I need to be aware of with a higher color?? Thanks

Glad the advice helped, if you were ok with IGI or EGL graded J colour then you should be fine with GIA or AGS graded J. You should be covered with a good return policy with a PS vendor so you will have time to inspect the stone for yourself.

 

[WinkHPD]

Date: 11/29/2009 9:34:40 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 11/29/2009 9:24:58 AM
Author:fr8train
Hello,

After some recommendations from fellow PS''ers I went to 2 differet B&M''s to look at J''s. The 1st in no way tried to talk me out of looking at this color, she actually brought an M out for me to see. Honestly, all I saw was a very,very slight warmth to the stone. The second didn''t want to show me anything above a G since it was going in white metal. After a few minutes she showed me an H (it was either IGI or EGL, I forget) and I questioned the whole grading system etc.. So finally, out comes a .75 J from EGL or IGI (again, I can''t remember). In the store which had all different types of lighting all I saw was a very slight tint, not even a yellow however all were equally as brilliant. When I asked to go outside and put them in a mock setting... They were white as can be! I asked her to prove me wrong and put it beside her e-ring and could tell no difference. So know what else do I need to look for? I''m really considering a 1.2 J from a PS vendor , I have the Idealscope and ASET and they look great..Any other concerns I need to be aware of with a higher color?? Thanks

Glad the advice helped, if you were ok with IGI or EGL graded J colour then you should be fine with GIA or AGS graded J. You should be covered with a good return policy with a PS vendor so you will have time to inspect the stone for yourself.

Good Morning Lorelei,

I guess in my mind I would say if he was happy with IGI or EGL graded J then he should be ecstatic with a GIA or AGS graded J. (But that would be because I expect a GIA or AGS graded J to actually be a J. I am getting cynical in my old age...

)

Your comments about being well covered by a good return policy with a Pricescope vendor is right on. That allows the actual viewing to be the proof of the pudding.

Wink

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/29/2009 9:44:24 AM
Author: Wink

Date: 11/29/2009 9:34:40 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 11/29/2009 9:24:58 AM
Author:fr8train
Hello,

After some recommendations from fellow PS''ers I went to 2 differet B&M''s to look at J''s. The 1st in no way tried to talk me out of looking at this color, she actually brought an M out for me to see. Honestly, all I saw was a very,very slight warmth to the stone. The second didn''t want to show me anything above a G since it was going in white metal. After a few minutes she showed me an H (it was either IGI or EGL, I forget) and I questioned the whole grading system etc.. So finally, out comes a .75 J from EGL or IGI (again, I can''t remember). In the store which had all different types of lighting all I saw was a very slight tint, not even a yellow however all were equally as brilliant. When I asked to go outside and put them in a mock setting... They were white as can be! I asked her to prove me wrong and put it beside her e-ring and could tell no difference. So know what else do I need to look for? I''m really considering a 1.2 J from a PS vendor , I have the Idealscope and ASET and they look great..Any other concerns I need to be aware of with a higher color?? Thanks

Glad the advice helped, if you were ok with IGI or EGL graded J colour then you should be fine with GIA or AGS graded J. You should be covered with a good return policy with a PS vendor so you will have time to inspect the stone for yourself.

Good Morning Lorelei,

I guess in my mind I would say if he was happy with IGI or EGL graded J then he should be ecstatic with a GIA or AGS graded J. (But that would be because I expect a GIA or AGS graded J to actually be a J. I am getting cynical in my old age...

)

Your comments about being well covered by a good return policy with a Pricescope vendor is right on. That allows the actual viewing to be the proof of the pudding.

Wink

Good morning Sir Winks!!

Ecstatic would work too!!!

 

[elle_chris]

Like the others have said, if you can''t see color in an egl or igi graded J, then you''re very safe with a GIA or AGS graded stone.

 

[fr8train]

Date: 11/29/2009 9:34:40 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 11/29/2009 9:24:58 AM
Author:fr8train
Hello,

After some recommendations from fellow PS''ers I went to 2 differet B&M''s to look at J''s. The 1st in no way tried to talk me out of looking at this color, she actually brought an M out for me to see. Honestly, all I saw was a very,very slight warmth to the stone. The second didn''t want to show me anything above a G since it was going in white metal. After a few minutes she showed me an H (it was either IGI or EGL, I forget) and I questioned the whole grading system etc.. So finally, out comes a .75 J from EGL or IGI (again, I can''t remember). In the store which had all different types of lighting all I saw was a very slight tint, not even a yellow however all were equally as brilliant. When I asked to go outside and put them in a mock setting... They were white as can be! I asked her to prove me wrong and put it beside her e-ring and could tell no difference. So know what else do I need to look for? I''m really considering a 1.2 J from a PS vendor , I have the Idealscope and ASET and they look great..Any other concerns I need to be aware of with a higher color?? Thanks

Glad the advice helped, if you were ok with IGI or EGL graded J colour then you should be fine with GIA or AGS graded J. You should be covered with a good return policy with a PS vendor so you will have time to inspect the stone for yourself.

Thats what I was thinking. From the side I could see a very small tint, that was all. Also, these were not the best cut diamonds. I find it funny that the second jeweler was speechless when I asked her to compare the J to her ring. I didn''t see any problems against the white gold, will this be a problem?

 

[miraclesrule]

My opinion is to go for it! I love my J''s and the only time I can warmth is when they are setting next to my fake cubic zirconia''s in a box with gold trim. My diamond picks up some of the gold from the shiny box where the CZ''s don''t. Once I left my J''s out of the box, they face up nice and white. I love them.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/29/2009 11:17:10 AM
Author: fr8train

Date: 11/29/2009 9:34:40 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 11/29/2009 9:24:58 AM
Author:fr8train
Hello,

After some recommendations from fellow PS''ers I went to 2 differet B&M''s to look at J''s. The 1st in no way tried to talk me out of looking at this color, she actually brought an M out for me to see. Honestly, all I saw was a very,very slight warmth to the stone. The second didn''t want to show me anything above a G since it was going in white metal. After a few minutes she showed me an H (it was either IGI or EGL, I forget) and I questioned the whole grading system etc.. So finally, out comes a .75 J from EGL or IGI (again, I can''t remember). In the store which had all different types of lighting all I saw was a very slight tint, not even a yellow however all were equally as brilliant. When I asked to go outside and put them in a mock setting... They were white as can be! I asked her to prove me wrong and put it beside her e-ring and could tell no difference. So know what else do I need to look for? I''m really considering a 1.2 J from a PS vendor , I have the Idealscope and ASET and they look great..Any other concerns I need to be aware of with a higher color?? Thanks

Glad the advice helped, if you were ok with IGI or EGL graded J colour then you should be fine with GIA or AGS graded J. You should be covered with a good return policy with a PS vendor so you will have time to inspect the stone for yourself.

Thats what I was thinking. From the side I could see a very small tint, that was all. Also, these were not the best cut diamonds. I find it funny that the second jeweler was speechless when I asked her to compare the J to her ring. I didn''t see any problems against the white gold, will this be a problem?

Should not be a problem with setting a well cut and reliably graded J colour in white metal.

 

[fr8train]

Date: 11/29/2009 11:30:35 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 11/29/2009 11:17:10 AM
Author: fr8train

Date: 11/29/2009 9:34:40 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 11/29/2009 9:24:58 AM
Author:fr8train
Hello,

After some recommendations from fellow PS''ers I went to 2 differet B&M''s to look at J''s. The 1st in no way tried to talk me out of looking at this color, she actually brought an M out for me to see. Honestly, all I saw was a very,very slight warmth to the stone. The second didn''t want to show me anything above a G since it was going in white metal. After a few minutes she showed me an H (it was either IGI or EGL, I forget) and I questioned the whole grading system etc.. So finally, out comes a .75 J from EGL or IGI (again, I can''t remember). In the store which had all different types of lighting all I saw was a very slight tint, not even a yellow however all were equally as brilliant. When I asked to go outside and put them in a mock setting... They were white as can be! I asked her to prove me wrong and put it beside her e-ring and could tell no difference. So know what else do I need to look for? I''m really considering a 1.2 J from a PS vendor , I have the Idealscope and ASET and they look great..Any other concerns I need to be aware of with a higher color?? Thanks

Glad the advice helped, if you were ok with IGI or EGL graded J colour then you should be fine with GIA or AGS graded J. You should be covered with a good return policy with a PS vendor so you will have time to inspect the stone for yourself.

Thats what I was thinking. From the side I could see a very small tint, that was all. Also, these were not the best cut diamonds. I find it funny that the second jeweler was speechless when I asked her to compare the J to her ring. I didn''t see any problems against the white gold, will this be a problem?

Should not be a problem with setting a well cut and reliably graded J colour in white metal.

I''m really thinking of going with BGD after personally talking with Brian..the diamond will be a tiny bit smaller but I''m hoping for an amazing diamond.

 

[ponder]

Date: 11/29/2009 5:33:13 PM
Author: fr8train

Date: 11/29/2009 11:30:35 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 11/29/2009 11:17:10 AM
Author: fr8train

Date: 11/29/2009 9:34:40 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 11/29/2009 9:24:58 AM
Author:fr8train
Hello,

After some recommendations from fellow PS''ers I went to 2 differet B&M''s to look at J''s. The 1st in no way tried to talk me out of looking at this color, she actually brought an M out for me to see. Honestly, all I saw was a very,very slight warmth to the stone. The second didn''t want to show me anything above a G since it was going in white metal. After a few minutes she showed me an H (it was either IGI or EGL, I forget) and I questioned the whole grading system etc.. So finally, out comes a .75 J from EGL or IGI (again, I can''t remember). In the store which had all different types of lighting all I saw was a very slight tint, not even a yellow however all were equally as brilliant. When I asked to go outside and put them in a mock setting... They were white as can be! I asked her to prove me wrong and put it beside her e-ring and could tell no difference. So know what else do I need to look for? I''m really considering a 1.2 J from a PS vendor , I have the Idealscope and ASET and they look great..Any other concerns I need to be aware of with a higher color?? Thanks

Glad the advice helped, if you were ok with IGI or EGL graded J colour then you should be fine with GIA or AGS graded J. You should be covered with a good return policy with a PS vendor so you will have time to inspect the stone for yourself.

Thats what I was thinking. From the side I could see a very small tint, that was all. Also, these were not the best cut diamonds. I find it funny that the second jeweler was speechless when I asked her to compare the J to her ring. I didn''t see any problems against the white gold, will this be a problem?

Should not be a problem with setting a well cut and reliably graded J colour in white metal.

I''m really thinking of going with BGD after personally talking with Brian..the diamond will be a tiny bit smaller but I''m hoping for an amazing diamond.

Fr8train,

I am sure it will be an amazing diamond. Its going to sparkle like a discoball. Also, have no fear about the AGS J in white metal. There is a large thread with I and J colored diamonds set in wg. Search and I am sure you will find many examples to set you at ease. No concerns either with going with BGD. Great reputation, customer service, return policy, and upgrade policy.

 

[Dreamer_D]

I have owned a J diamond and was very happy with it. I think the only thing to really accept and know is that you are getting a near colorless diamond that will have some warmth to it. It will not be a colorless diamond. As long as you accept that and are happy with it and it allows you to accomplish other goals for you diamond, perhaps size, then go for it!

The only time that I think people may be disappointed with a higher color diamond is when they might really prefer something more colorless but are hoping that they won''t mind the slight tint in order to get a larger diamond than they could otherwise afford. But here on PS I have never really known someone to trade in a J color stone because of too much tint or because of disatisfaction. This issue seems to have come up for a few people with K color diamonds, but that is a big leap from a J (though only one color grade).

 

[fr8train]

I''m hoping that the Brian Gavin quality will excel where other areas may lack slightly..

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 11/29/2009 10:06:39 PM
Author: fr8train
I''m hoping that the Brian Gavin quality will excel where other areas may lack slightly..

Nah it isn''t lacking, it is just different!

Some people like coke, some like sprite, one isn''t better than the other. But don''t buy sprite expecting coke, thats all!