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2carrots

Rough_Rock
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I am considering buying a stone with the following specs.:

1.51
F VS2
AGS cert
Cut Grade: Ideal
Pol: Ideal
Sym: Ideal
Proportions: Ideal
Depth: 62.1
Tbl: 56
Flor: None

They are asking for $13,000. Is it a good buy? Everything else I have looked at with these specs. runs for about $14,000-15,500.
 

2carrots

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I was wondering if I should get an appraisal before committing. The jeweler doesn't have brilliant scope or sarin report info. Do you think it is necessary, given the specs.?
 

Rhino

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I have found in this biz more than often ... you always get what you pay for.

Rhino
 

rsilvers

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You don't need a sarin report with AGS but you should run it on the Cut Advisor.

Here is a stone, E-VS1, for $14,720. Not sure how that rates on value compared to your F-VS2 for $13,000. It has medium-blue fluor, which I would not want in an E color stone.
http://www.niceice.com/certcopies/151evs1_gia11865148/index.htm
 

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I actually got the price down to $12,500 and am working on perhaps going lower. All the stones with the specs. I've been looking for in the same price range have had either medium or strong flourescence, which I don't want. I've been surfing the internet for a comparable deal, but the other two stones that I've inquired about with specs. similar to the stone I've been looking at have sold within a day or two. It's been VERY frustrating. :((
 

rsilvers

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The price seems very good. Get the crown and pav angles from the cert, run them in Cut Advisor, and if the it scores a 2.0 or better then buy it. If it scores 1.0 or better, quickly buy it. The only thing an appraiser would be good for is to verify that the stone matches the cert. I am sure it does, and you can tell by using a loupe in the store and match a few of the inclusions and have them weigh it in front of you. Other than that, appraisers are good for checking non certified stones or stones from weaker companies than AGS.

I mean, look at it good yourself and check for cracks of course. Run the company of the BBB site if you want http://search.bbb.org/search.html

Here is a G-VVS1 in Oregon, no sales tax, for $13,500. You do realize that your stone will cost $1100 in tax! http://www.niceice.com/privatereserve/reserve5.htm
They also have a D-VS2 for $15,095.
 

2carrots

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I ran the stats on the HCA and it came up as a 1.7 with the following results:

Light Return - Excellent
Fire - Very Good
Scintillation - Very Good
Spread or diameter for weight - Very Good

I was hoping for Excellent with the first three, but I have a budget I need to stay in. Is there a noticeable (to the eye) difference between very good and excellent?

By the way, the jeweler is going to waive the sales tax for me, so that makes my decision even harder. :confused:

I've been browsing the goodoldgold.com website and would've loved to have bought from them, but everything they have is out of my price range. Even the SI1 on the site is out of my range. Besides, I figure why not buy the VS2 if it's cheaper? Any thoughts?
 

rsilvers

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I don't know if 1.7 is something to be concerned about or not. It seems like when they say anything under 2.0 is excellent, they really mean it. So far it seems like the best deal. And while the 1.7 might not be as satisfying numerically as 1.0 or less, it would seem like there is no way around that without spending another $3000 and probably for no difference in the end. I would just take satisfaction in the AGS000 and pretend these other factors do not exist and get it.

This one is $12,460 if you mention pricescope.
http://www.whiteflash.com/acut/diamond_details.asp?ItemCode=275661

And this one is $11,242 but is "just" vg/vg instead of ideal/ideal
http://www.whiteflash.com/acut/diamond_details.asp?ItemCode=290392

So you have options.
 

2carrots

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rsilvers,

The first diamond you listed was exactly what I wanted. I inquired about it the first day I saw it listed, but it was already sold. :(( Thanks for your help, though.
 
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