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MarionC

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While picking up a ring repair I made the mistake of browsing. One diamond in particular caught my eye and I can't stop thinking about it. It is a lower color grade and I was attracted to the warmth. It looked terrific and had an excellent cut.
When I got home I used "the tools". It has a 3.5 HCA and an AGA rating of 2B. The crown angle is 31.5 and it has a table of 58.9. It is a VS1 and has two small feathers at the girdle. My understanding from researching PS is that feathers in a VS1 are not a problem.[?]

What about the HCA? The diamond had outstanding performance in-store. I did not look at it -yet - in natural light.
I'm planning to go back to look at it again today if I get any thumbs up here...or I may just have to visit it anyway :appl:
 
Anyone? I'm headed for town to give it another look.

Main questions - should I be concerned about feathers
& if it looks great do I care about the HCA?
thanks.
 
VS1 inclusions are of no concern. If you like the ring, it is fine to buy it as long as you know you could find a diamond that is better cut and that would have better light performance. I personally think it is especially important in lower colored stones. I'd rather find a great diamond and then get a similar setting. The crown angle is so low and the table large, so you have a pretty flat topped diamond. I prefer seeing more of a crown and a slightly smaller table.
 
diamondseeker2006|1390830553|3601974 said:
VS1 inclusions are of no concern. If you like the ring, it is fine to buy it as long as you know you could find a diamond that is better cut and that would have better light performance. I personally think it is especially important in lower colored stones. I'd rather find a great diamond and then get a similar setting. The crown angle is so low and the table large, so you have a pretty flat topped diamond. I prefer seeing more of a crown and a slightly smaller table.

thanks, Diamondseeker- good - maybe I'll pass on that one. It's stunning; a beautiful strong champagne color, K-like, with lots of fire. Hopefully it would not perform as well outside the store lighting since I really don't need more diamonds...
I have a K coming from JA this week. Maybe I could sit still for a day or two to see what it looks like - it's an excellent everything...but it's in the mail, not in hand. :lol:
I've fallen for the K's!
 
Not a fan of that kind of combo.
 
JulieN - what combo please?
 
The "K" arrived from JA a day early!
Here it is with an "E".

p1070478.jpg

and here is is-from left to right: K/VVS1, D/VVS2, E/VVS2
The K is 0.58, the other 2 are 0.60. Ideal, except the last one is H&A
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diamondseeker2006|1390830553|3601974 said:
VS1 inclusions are of no concern. If you like the ring, it is fine to buy it as long as you know you could find a diamond that is better cut and that would have better light performance. I personally think it is especially important in lower colored stones. I'd rather find a great diamond and then get a similar setting. The crown angle is so low and the table large, so you have a pretty flat topped diamond. I prefer seeing more of a crown and a slightly smaller table.


DItto!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is so hard to be rational when looking at diamonds they are so pretty and this one is sitting right in front of you . But stop think you will be happier in the long run if you listen to when is suggested here. You did come across PS for a reason.

How can you go from a D to a K. I like the D but then again I would rather go a little larger and drop to a G, H and an eye clean si1 stone. My H is amazing and I wouldn't pay for a VVS1 or VVS2... over kill just my HO
 
Sorry for any confusion. I was originally posting about a K diamond I saw in a jewelry store, but
the "K" in the photo is an ideal cut with an HCA score of 1.6 and a 1A AGA class cut that I bought last week:

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I guess I've looked at so many "white" diamonds in the past few months that I have a bit of white diamond overload.
I'm looking for a diamond to wear all the time as a stacking ring - and just "wear out" if that happens. I have a couple of larger ct rings I never wear because they get in the way and catch on things. I wanted something unique - and ... I'd rather knock around in a $1000 K than a $4000 D :lol:

Yep - that diamond I saw at the jewelry store was gorgeous - but then again...under those lights just about anything looks great, and I was glad to get the advice here that I probably don't want to pursue that particular stone!
 
This thread is getting way down on the list, but maybe someone will see it anyway. I went back to look at the 1ct J-color diamond yesterday just to further my education. We looked at it outside in shade and in sun - beautiful. Then with the ideal scope - and it had a perfect hearts and arrows pattern. With this in mind, would you still not consider it? :confused:
 
Ok, I'm confused. You have a .60 D and a .60 E - thereabouts. You ordered a .60 K - if I'm understanding this correctly. Why the three .60 stones and why the variation in color from D to K? You're gonna have to help me out here - and again, maybe I'm not getting this correct.

As for the one carat, I'm assuming it's the first one you posted about in this thread. With the numbers on the stone, it might display hearts and arrows but it will be nowhere near a true H&A stone. From knowing what I know about stones, I would reject it based on the numbers. Others would buy a stone with their eyes if they really liked it - numbers, schmunbers - and not really care about those numbers. I just know that there can be a much better cut stone out there but that may not be your main criteria in buying a stone. This is just my opinion only. Would this jeweler offer you a return policy if after a few days you really came to dislike it? Does he offer a 100% trade up policy should you decide to trade up in the future? Those are some pertinent questions to ask as well.

Again, not to be a Debbie Downer but I'm not sure what the plan is with these stones. Or maybe there's not a plan and you're just sort of collecting stones that you like? Diamonds can be costly and buying mistakes can be heartbreaking. I'm just trying to figure out where you're going with these stones - shed some light for me please!
 
I'd consider it.

Jimmianne|1390997627|3603239 said:
This thread is getting way down on the list, but maybe someone will see it anyway. I went back to look at the 1ct J-color diamond yesterday just to further my education. We looked at it outside in shade and in sun - beautiful. Then with the ideal scope - and it had a perfect hearts and arrows pattern. With this in mind, would you still not consider it? :confused:
 
MissGotRocks|1391005507|3603276 said:
Ok, I'm confused. You have a .60 D and a .60 E - thereabouts. You ordered a .60 K - if I'm understanding this correctly. Why the three .60 stones and why the variation in color from D to K? You're gonna have to help me out here - and again, maybe I'm not getting this correct.

As for the one carat, I'm assuming it's the first one you posted about in this thread. With the numbers on the stone, it might display hearts and arrows but it will be nowhere near a true H&A stone. From knowing what I know about stones, I would reject it based on the numbers. Others would buy a stone with their eyes if they really liked it - numbers, schmunbers - and not really care about those numbers. I just know that there can be a much better cut stone out there but that may not be your main criteria in buying a stone. This is just my opinion only. Would this jeweler offer you a return policy if after a few days you really came to dislike it? Does he offer a 100% trade up policy should you decide to trade up in the future? Those are some pertinent questions to ask as well.

Again, not to be a Debbie Downer but I'm not sure what the plan is with these stones. Or maybe there's not a plan and you're just sort of collecting stones that you like? Diamonds can be costly and buying mistakes can be heartbreaking. I'm just trying to figure out where you're going with these stones - shed some light for me please!

I had decided against the 1 carat after reading posts here. Then I went to see the diamond again and still loved it, but your post reiterates the good idea that I can do better. So, end of story on THAT stone! [ If I really wanted it I would go to a PS vendor - since my local jeweler only has the stone on loan and the stone is available from PS...for a lot less.]

I've had diamond madness : ) since November but am kind of? settling down. It's a long story how I ended up with 3 0.60's. Basically my Mom had most of her diamonds stolen right before she died and I suppose I'm trying to make things "right and whole".
I really like the 0.60 size and all three have great HCA, etc...& I was curious about K diamonds - I find them beautiful.
So here sit three pretty diamonds and I am loathe to give up even one of them. On alternate days the D&E seem perfect for earrings or side stones, and the K is just right for a rose gold halo. So short answer - I'm playing. But maybe this is a case of nerves :loopy: while waiting for my "holy grail" Asscher to be set at JA and I've vowed that when that arrives next week I'll turn my attention on other things!
I hope this explains - or maybe it's even more confusing!
 
Tekate|1391006966|3603292 said:
I'd consider it.

Jimmianne|1390997627|3603239 said:
This thread is getting way down on the list, but maybe someone will see it anyway. I went back to look at the 1ct J-color diamond yesterday just to further my education. We looked at it outside in shade and in sun - beautiful. Then with the ideal scope - and it had a perfect hearts and arrows pattern. With this in mind, would you still not consider it? :confused:


I've looked at a ton of diamonds in the last 3 months and this one spoke, good or bad angles and depth. I swore I would forget about it, but even a little encouragement makes it hard to walk away from it.
Why, please, would you consider it. thanks.
 
Jimmianne|1391007694|3603299 said:
Tekate|1391006966|3603292 said:
I'd consider it.

Jimmianne|1390997627|3603239 said:
This thread is getting way down on the list, but maybe someone will see it anyway. I went back to look at the 1ct J-color diamond yesterday just to further my education. We looked at it outside in shade and in sun - beautiful. Then with the ideal scope - and it had a perfect hearts and arrows pattern. With this in mind, would you still not consider it? :confused:


I've looked at a ton of diamonds in the last 3 months and this one spoke, good or bad angles and depth. I swore I would forget about it, but even a little encouragement makes it hard to walk away from it.
Why, please, would you consider it. thanks.

Diamonds with color are gorgeous. I was thinking of perhaps rose gold - at least the prongs and head, maybe little D's around the main stone.
 
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Diamonds with color are gorgeous. I was thinking of perhaps rose gold - at least the prongs and head, maybe little D's around the main stone.[/quote]

That's a matter of opinion.

Can you compare the h&a well cut diamond to the one in the shop you like and see if you still like it? If you have it in a holder you could ask the jeweller if you could take them outside to look in daylight. Although not well cut according to the experts, some people like different looks, their eyes like something different. Pity to dismiss it if you like it so much without looking at it out of the jewellers lighting.
 
Jimmianne|1391007345|3603296 said:
MissGotRocks|1391005507|3603276 said:
Ok, I'm confused. You have a .60 D and a .60 E - thereabouts. You ordered a .60 K - if I'm understanding this correctly. Why the three .60 stones and why the variation in color from D to K? You're gonna have to help me out here - and again, maybe I'm not getting this correct.

As for the one carat, I'm assuming it's the first one you posted about in this thread. With the numbers on the stone, it might display hearts and arrows but it will be nowhere near a true H&A stone. From knowing what I know about stones, I would reject it based on the numbers. Others would buy a stone with their eyes if they really liked it - numbers, schmunbers - and not really care about those numbers. I just know that there can be a much better cut stone out there but that may not be your main criteria in buying a stone. This is just my opinion only. Would this jeweler offer you a return policy if after a few days you really came to dislike it? Does he offer a 100% trade up policy should you decide to trade up in the future? Those are some pertinent questions to ask as well.

Again, not to be a Debbie Downer but I'm not sure what the plan is with these stones. Or maybe there's not a plan and you're just sort of collecting stones that you like? Diamonds can be costly and buying mistakes can be heartbreaking. I'm just trying to figure out where you're going with these stones - shed some light for me please!

I had decided against the 1 carat after reading posts here. Then I went to see the diamond again and still loved it, but your post reiterates the good idea that I can do better. So, end of story on THAT stone! [ If I really wanted it I would go to a PS vendor - since my local jeweler only has the stone on loan and the stone is available from PS...for a lot less.]

I've had diamond madness : ) since November but am kind of? settling down. It's a long story how I ended up with 3 0.60's. Basically my Mom had most of her diamonds stolen right before she died and I suppose I'm trying to make things "right and whole".
I really like the 0.60 size and all three have great HCA, etc...& I was curious about K diamonds - I find them beautiful.
So here sit three pretty diamonds and I am loathe to give up even one of them. On alternate days the D&E seem perfect for earrings or side stones, and the K is just right for a rose gold halo. So short answer - I'm playing. But maybe this is a case of nerves :loopy: while waiting for my "holy grail" Asscher to be set at JA and I've vowed that when that arrives next week I'll turn my attention on other things!
I hope this explains - or maybe it's even more confusing!

It does explain - thanks! It's amazing how much emotion is tied up in these things isn't it? Certainly makes a lot more sense now understanding about your mother and her loss before her death. I was just afraid that you were going to end up with a hodge podge of stones and no plan for using them. At least you've got options - especially with the D and E for possible earrings. Buy what you like, what makes your heart sing and makes you happiest. Perhaps when you have your asscher back and set, it will scratch your itch for a bit!
 

Diamonds with color are gorgeous. I was thinking of perhaps rose gold - at least the prongs and head, maybe little D's around the main stone.[/quote]

That's a matter of opinion.

Can you compare the h&a well cut diamond to the one in the shop you like and see if you still like it? If you have it in a holder you could ask the jeweller if you could take them outside to look in daylight. Although not well cut according to the experts, some people like different looks, their eyes like something different. Pity to dismiss it if you like it so much without looking at it out of the jewellers lighting.[/quote]

You're right: beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
I'm an artist...maybe I see things weirdly. The K's, to me, give off color flashes with an undertone of tiny gold fire sparks and the stones look deep [to me].
We took the diamond outside in a tray with three other stones and it performed extremely well, both in sun and in shade. We then looked at it under the ideal scope and it exhibited a well-lined up H&A pattern. I am not saying it is a H&A diamond, just that it appeared to be well-cut under the 'scope.
 
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