Is this a good deal?

[aldo]

Hi all! I'm a first timer but I've been browsing your forum for the last few months to educate myself on the process of buying a diamond. Great forum and great advice. Here's my question: Made my first internet purchase of a diamond.Was very nervous. Looked for over 2 months using Pricescope and your buying tips as guides. Found a GIA cert, round brilliant, .89,G color, SI1,Thn-Med girdle, no flour,no culet,good polish,very good sym,55 table,61.8 depth with Sarin crown 33.6 degrees and pavilion 40.7 degrees. Scored a .8 on the HCA using the angle degrees and scored a 1.7 HCA using the crown and pavilion percentages. Paid $3470. Haven't seen it yet. My eyes will be the true judge. But based on the info above. Did I make a good choice and get a good deal ?

Thanks.

 

[GlitterGal]

Hi Aldo,

Congratulations on your upcoming engagement and on your purchase! From the specs you gave of your stone, it sounds like a real winner! Did the vendor confirm its eyecleanliness? While the price is a bit on the high end, the numbers promise a fireball of a diamond.

Please let us know how it turns out when you receive it and post pics when you get a chance!

Congrats once again!

Kindest regards always,
Linda

 

[aldo]

Hi Linda: Thanks for the reply. Actually the vendor did say that it was eye clean and the GIA cert indicates fether and needle under charictaristics. As far as price, I only found 1 diamond that came close to the specs of this one for about $150.less.(RB/.86/G/VS2/T-56/D-62.1/Pol-Ex/Sym-VG/Flour-No/)But the vendor could not get me the Sarin info and I wanted to run it through the HCA. He also made some negative comments on the HCA. I felt that this is the only tool I had available to give me some peace of mind in the sight unseen process. Also the other vendor only had a 10day return policy. I did not want to feel rushed in my decision. So I was willing to pay alittle more for some peace of mind.

Thx for the feed back . A

Anymore?

 

[GlitterGal]

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On 6/9/2004 11:07:08 AM aldo wrote:

But the vendor could not get me the Sarin info and I wanted to run it through the HCA. He also made some negative comments on the HCA. I felt that this is the only tool I had available to give me some peace of mind in the sight unseen process. Also the other vendor only had a 10day return policy. ----------------

Hi Aldo,

From what you say, you absolutely hands down went with the better vendor. Congrats again and can't wait for that eye candy!

Kindest regards always,
Linda

 

[aldo]

Thanks again Linda. Your input means alot. I'll let you know how things go.

A

 

[aldo]

 

[jewelsngifts]

hi aldo
the 55 table is slightly too small 57 - 62 table is ideal
the crown angle more than 30% also takes away from the value

 

[Paul-Antwerp]

If you have a return-policy on this stone, please pay attention to the following:

- eye-clean-ness of the stone. Probably not a real problem with an SI1 of this size.
- symmetry and polish of the stone.

If this does not bother you, no problem.

I am concerned with the good on polish and the very good on symmetry. Also the weight of 0.89 bothers me. A cutter delivering this stone seriously risks being fired, because of not getting the 0.90 Ct. this would make the stone about 1,000$ more valuable. Therefore, there must be very valid reasons not to reach the 0.90, and it makes me doubt the niceness of this 0.89 Ct.

Other than the average angles, do you have the minimum and maximum angle?

Take care,

 

[derekinla]

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On 6/9/2004 9:42:29 AM aldo wrote:

Hi all! I'm a first timer but I've been browsing your forum for the last few months to educate myself on the process of buying a diamond. Great forum and great advice. Here's my question: Made my first internet purchase of a diamond.Was very nervous. Looked for over 2 months using Pricescope and your buying tips as guides. Found a GIA cert, round brilliant, .89,G color, SI1,Thn-Med girdle, no flour,no culet,good polish,very good sym,55 table,61.8 depth with Sarin crown 33.6 degrees and pavilion 40.7 degrees. Scored a .8 on the HCA using the angle degrees and scored a 1.7 HCA using the crown and pavilion percentages. Paid $3470. Haven't seen it yet. My eyes will be the true judge. But based on the info above. Did I make a good choice and get a good deal ?

Thanks.

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At $3898 per carat, the price is fair. The G/SI1 combination is good spot to be in to maximize your dollar. Assuming the stone is indeed eye clean and passes your visual inspection, you might have yourself a winner!

 

[GlitterGal]

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On 6/9/2004 4:13:10 PM derekinla wrote:

At $3898 per carat, the price is fair. The G/SI1 combination is good spot to be in to maximize your dollar. Assuming the stone is indeed eye clean and passes your visual inspection, you might have yourself a winner!

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Hi Aldo and Derek,

I found the price of $3898 a bit high, when I did a comparative search here on pricescope and came up with two stones with similar specs. One is a 0.89 G SI1 from Union Diamond for $3357 per carat and the other is a a 0.89 G SI1 from DCD for $3597 per carat. BTW, there are several stones to be found in the 0.89 carat range when you do a search here on ps, with different color and clarity combinations.

Also, as you've seen from the HCA, it is the combination of the table and depth % and crown and pavilion angles that all work in tandem to produce a beautiful stone (in this case, a 0.8 on the HCA!).

Looking forward to hearing more about the stone when you see it live!

Kindest regards always,
Linda

 

[bling]

im sorry, but since when is a 55% table too small? i thought that was quite an acceptable table range.. maybe someone can clarify for me? thanks..

 

[Paul-Antwerp]

I think it is better to ignore that comment of jewelsngifts.

Both remarks are incorrect.

Live long,

 

[aldo]

Thanks for all your comments. I'll adress them as I can.When I began my quest I created a comparative (Ben Franklin)matrix of about 20 companies with all my desired specs that fit my budget. There were actually some diamonds that I found through searches that more closely fit my criteria than the one I chose. Unfortunately, when I would call to inquire on these diamonds (posted on either price scope or the company sites)the diamonds I was asking about were gone. Then I was offered the next best option available. Most of these did not meet all my criteria. This became very frustrating. So when I found a diamond that met most of my specs, I jumped on it. A 30 day return gives me plenty of time to get it looked at and see it for myself.Perhaps, price per carat is higher than the average, but the cost of the diamond itself was my concern.Before I decided to commit on this one I made one final search using the same or similar parameters and found nothing that was better in price. Actually I began my search for an SI2 opting for a bigger stone but I sacrificed a little on size to get a better clarity ,cut and color. I don't have maximum angles info. Only the info on the sarin printout sent to me by the vendor. But the HCA reading was important to me and many vendors could not (would not?) give me a sarin on the diamonds I was asking about.Finally, After reading about ideal cut parameters I came to my personal conclusion that I wanted my table to be between 55-57 and my depth to be between 60-62(was I wrong?). Not to familiar with crown angles, I figured that that the HCA would rest my mind as to the acceptable ranges.I also ran the specs on an appraisal site and it scored a 1B.I have plenty of time to deide whether this diamond is the one. Your continued feedback and my own assurance measures(eyes and inspection) will help me determine if this one is a keeper.

PS: It's so cool to find a group of people that have no personal interest in my (or others) situation and yet take the time to help out. There is hope for the world after all LOL.

Cheers: A