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i just picked up my new wedding set. its based on the tiffany nuvo engagement ring style and a bezel set design. the head was replaced with a tulip setting. i picked it up yesterday and this afternoon noticed a small diamond (appox size is .20) is already missing! all i have done is sleep in it. i have to young toddlers and another on the way. im not rough at all but im so afraid now that i will lose diamonds easily . i already contacted the jewlery and they said to think of it as a fluke and will replace it tomorrow. but said if i lose another to rethink the setting. but we just got this setting! im so afraid. i just want to wear my wedding set and not worry about losing a diamond. what do you think?

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Did you lose a stone from the bezel band, or the shared prong engagement ring band?

I've been wearing my shared prong eternity band for over three years and have yet to lose a stone from it. I did chip a stone after slamming it into a doorknob, though.

I would go with what your jeweler told you, and chalk it up to a fluke. Have them re-check that all the stones are secure, of course, and let's hope that this doesn't happen again soon.

I have to say, though, it doesn't look like you have 20-pointers set in either of your rings. Are you talking about a ring you didn't picture? Or do you mean 2-pointers (0.02)?
 
Well, it does sound like maybe there is a problem with the setting if you lost a stone after one day. But I will tell you that those kinds of settings need to be babied and should not be worn to sleep in, do housework, yardwork, cleaning, working out, etc. Of course, many of us without pave settings don't do those things either just to keep our rings looking nice. The bezel setting should be great, but I would still treat it with care like any fine jewelry. I'd just probably wear the e-ring when leaving the house.

Was that engagement ring setting ordered in your size or was it sized?
 
i did mean .02.

the lost stone is from the e-ring which is a prong setting not pave. i went with prong since pave is known for losing stones. i never took my old set off unless to shower. they ordered it in my size 8.5 and its a little lose, but in order to get it over my knuckles i had to get it in that size. im a little nervous know that if i hit the head it will pop off. im not used to having to be careful with my set. im just used to not thinking about it and love that aspect. and they are both 3/4 or half eternity band. i dont want them sodered together, but what would be another option. i just dont want to have to pay for another setting. it took me three years to get this one. i just want to wear and forget.
 
I'm afraid the answer may be Yes, your new sitting IS destine to lose diamonds - unless you are a queen who does nothing but sit on the throne and order servants around.

Thin rings losing melee diamonds is a problem we hear often on PS.

Unfortunately rings that are too thin to meet most customer's standards of durability for an e-ring that is expected to be worn daily are in style now and the vendors are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
If they refuse to make rings this thin they will lose customers to the vendors who will.

I can understand why they are hesitant to tell you how fragile they are.
They want to calm your fears not fan them.

See this thread:
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/are-rings-too-thin-these-days.155780/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/are-rings-too-thin-these-days.155780/[/URL]

IMHO, the solution is to get a ring that is not so thin.
 
Oh, I wouldn't be too nervous about the head popping off!

I have pretty delicate rings and like you, I thought it might be a bit too much to have to worry about them in the beginning. But I quickly realized that you just get used to being extra careful with your hands, and after some time it's not something you'll even have to think about any more. I don't think you should lose stones from your e-ring setting without doing some physical damage to them, so I really hope this was just a fluke. Only time will tell, I suppose.

I've found it handy to keep pretty ring holders in areas of the house so I can easily take my rings off when I'm washing the dishes, or rearranging books, or cleaning, or basically doing things that really aren't ring friendly. And the ring holders are so pretty that they look like decorative art! I have one in the kitchen, one in the living room, one in the family room, and one in the bedroom.
 
I didn't plan on the ring being that thin. We just used diamonds from my old setting and that's the thinness it came too. I'm wondering what options I have besides getting another new setting. Like adding gold somewhere or another ring in front to help protect the sides of the ring? I was already planning on getting two stacksbles to go on the other side as mothers rings.
 
Unfortunately pave or small stones set like that have to be VERY VERY well made and most on the market are not. So... I'd switch to a solitaire or have someone who knows pave and settings like that very well re-do it (BGD or Steven Kirsch being my personal choices). But it will cost you 3K to have that done right.
 
diamondseeker2006|1323050836|3074248 said:
Well, it does sound like maybe there is a problem with the setting if you lost a stone after one day. But I will tell you that those kinds of settings need to be babied and should not be worn to sleep in, do housework, yardwork, cleaning, working out, etc.

Ditto. If you want to wear a wedding set all the time, and not worry about it or have to baby it, that style is probably not the right one unfortunately. Especially since you have toddlers! A classic solitaire might be easier. Or if you still want diamonds, bead or channel set is probably more durable.
 
It may just be a fluke thing. I have had my two prong set little bands in my avatar pic for about a year and no problems. I wear these rings to do everything and only take them off once a week for a deep cleaning. I have a hard time getting them over my knuckle so I keep them on.
 
I had a similar issue with my first setting... sent it back to the jewelers and had it re-made... I then lost a stone from the new one.. but it was up close to the top.. turned out the design had only three prongs on the stones right up next to the top of the setting and four prongs on all the rest of the stones... so that was the issue. It was more about space and design... for those top stones...

I never sleep in my ring and I take it off when I am in the kitchen, at the gym or anywhere I would do serious damage.. most people here will recommend with a pave setting you do take a few precautions.. you might not need to take if you didn't have the pave...

I never thought about the sleeping thing until I was on here and someone said well it gets caught on the covers... you know.. I notice on some clothing I can feel the prongs catching on my clothing.. so that made total sense to me.

They are beautiful ring!!!
 
If the setting is well made, you shouldn't be loosing stones regularly. I know Kenny has some hatered for thin bands but it really isn't that bad if you stick with a platinumsmith / goldsmith that knows what they are doing. My e-rings and bands are 1.5 mm filled with tons of pave and melee ... no issues.
 
I don't know about prongs catching on blankets, but sleeping often puts a lot of pressure on the ring. Cumulatively it may be like whacking it really hard with the way it deforms the metal. You may put your hand under your head or tuck it between your knees or under your side, or roll over on it, and all of that puts a lot of pressure on the setting, and often the pressure is held there, which is something you don't normally do in daytime to your ring. There are threads on PS that go into this in more detail if you search - I think the general consensus is that you should not sleep in most rings. I think sleeping in the bezel band would be fine, but I'd definitely take the engagement ring off for nighttime wear.
 
CharmyPoo|1323091463|3074492 said:
If the setting is well made, you shouldn't be loosing stones regularly. I know Kenny has some hatered for thin bands but it really isn't that bad if you stick with a platinumsmith / goldsmith that knows what they are doing. My e-rings and bands are 1.5 mm filled with tons of pave and melee ... no issues.

Hatred?
OUCH!
Harsh judgement, or being too sensitive and taking posts too personally since I see, after a search, that you have a thin ring.

One thing I would I hate is losing diamonds.

There is nothing wrong with starting threads on legitimate concerns like this.
In fact, a few months after I started this thread one of our respected appraisers started the exact same thread about this subject.
Do you also think he also hates thin bands?
 
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