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stone7

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I purchased a 14k ring from an estate in Europe. It is very brilliant and its color is a deep pink, close to red, about 13mm, and fluorescent blue. It has nice inclusions on the inside including graining. I have not yet had the stone checked by a professional. The person who sold the ring to me bought it a while ago and she only remembers that the white stones around the pink stone are diamonds. I brought it anyway since the setting was very different and beautiful. Somehow, I chose to conduct some research about the pink stone. From what I have experienced so far, it might not be a lab-created stone like I thought it was. I remembered posting a topic about it before and some of the experts on here suggested taking it to be examined by a professional. Frankly, I do not know whom I can trust with this ring to deliver accurate information about the ring. Does anyone know any respectable gemologists? I would like to take it to a gemologist before I submit it to any lab. Thanks!
 
a 13mm red/pink diamond would be $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 
For a colored diamond to be worth the big bucks TWO things have to be of natural origin, the material and the color.
The material may be mined from the earth or manufactured in a lab.
The color may be just as it came out of the earth, or be treated in a lab.

A 13mm fully natural red or pink diamond will cost zillions and zillions of bucks.
So unless you paid that much chances are either the material or the color are not natural.
People selling diamonds are pretty smart.
Why would they sell you something for X if it's worth a zillion times X?

Since so much money is at stake I'd send it to GIA for grading
GIA is the most competent and trusted lab in the world for colored diamonds and anyone with a brain and a zillion bucks wouldn't consider buying a 13mm diamond claimed to be red/pink without a GIA report, graining or no.
Browns can have graining too and this may be a treated brown mined diamond.

There is nothing 'wrong' with a red/pink diamond created in a lab or one mined from the earth that got its color from laboratory treatment, but they are not the same thing ... otherwise they'd cost the same.

I wouldn't bother spending money on a gemologist.
Rather I'd send it to GIA.
Any document from the most respected gemologist or appraiser in the world will not carry the weight of a GIA grading (and is not enough to get a buyer to buy it if fully natural) report so why waste the money?
 
stone7|1364003931|3411529 said:
I purchased a 14k ring from an estate in Europe. It is very brilliant and its color is a deep pink, close to red, about 13cm, and fluorescent blue. It has nice inclusions on the inside including a chain of deep pink graining. I have not yet had the stone checked by a professional. The person who sold the ring to me bought it a while ago and she only remembers that the white stones around the pink stone are diamonds. I brought it anyway since the setting was very different and beautiful. Somehow, I chose to conduct some research about the pink stone. From what I have experienced so far, it might not be a lab-created stone like I thought it was. I remembered posting a topic about it before and some of the experts on here suggested taking it to be examined by a professional. Frankly, I do not know whom I can trust with this ring to deliver accurate information about the ring. Does anyone know any respectable gemologists? I would like to take it to a gemologist before I submit it to any lab. Thanks!

Very strange as in Europe 18K is much more popular than 14K. And 14k gold in Europe would be stamped 585, not 14K.
 
also i dont think its a lab created stone, I dont think MMD's can get that large.
 
it seems too good to be true and raises red flags.
 
@ Denverappraiser - I follow your posts for months. Do you have any suggestions in term of the respectable gemologists around Philadelphia, PA and Wilmington, DE. Your information is greatly appreciated. Thanks
 
I doubt it is a diamond and most likely created. However, it can also be a garnet or spinel.
 
Abby2013|1364012939|3411609 said:
@ Denverappraiser - I follow your posts for months. Do you have any suggestions in term of the respectable gemologists around Philadelphia, PA and Wilmington, DE. Your information is greatly appreciated. Thanks
David Atlas, a regular contributor here (aka Oldminer), is one of the top appraisers in the country and offices in Philadelphia.
 
denverappraiser|1364049571|3411720 said:
Abby2013|1364012939|3411609 said:
@ Denverappraiser - I follow your posts for months. Do you have any suggestions in term of the respectable gemologists around Philadelphia, PA and Wilmington, DE. Your information is greatly appreciated. Thanks
David Atlas, a regular contributor here (aka Oldminer), is one of the top appraisers in the country and offices in Philadelphia.
Second that and a link:
http://datlas.com/
 
I appreciate the information about Mr. David Atlas. I will contact him next week concerning this inquiry. Thanks!
 
I agree with the other posters before you spend money on an appraiser. Take it to a gold buying store and just have them run their diamond tester on it. or if you feel more comfortable a reliable jewelery store in the area that has a diamond tester and a microscope. Do a little bit more investigating. What is the metal content 750, 585, plat , irid plat on the inside of a ring. These hallmarks can be seen with a jewelers loop again at a store. This will give you additional information before you make the trip to the appraiser.

good luck I hope it is a real gem of a ring.
 
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