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Is anyone else feeling fearful with what’s happening?

@missy and yet up till 2025, people with green cards felt safe traveling.
We didn't have masked men whisking people off the street.
Zip tying school teachers......

But yes, let's make up a disease to imply we're just freaking out over nothing. Or Marines in the streets of LA.....
 
missy said:
So Mr. President, with all due respect — please check your facts. We’re living them."
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"Due respect"????
Facts?????
Let's "investigate" the 2020 election..........
You've got the wrong potus.

Anyone see our esteemed AG under questioning from congress???
We are so screwed......
 
This was wrong and done on Israel's behalf based on a lies and fear.
Both Israel and America have been lying or omitting many things.

Vance just admitted it on Primetime. The weapon angle was always a lie.
Just like last time.

Again, Israel's own people do not support what their gov't is doing.

America's deportations of innocent people to third world countries to die, harassing and detaining innocent tourists for weeks or months and ripping apart families along with unprovoked attacks are not supported by her people.

All based on lies.

If our leaders cared about their peoples they would do as the nations want and stop these actions and manipulating that is harming the people.

Neither are innocent or victims. Both are targeting innocent people and using lies to justify it. Shameful.
 
missy said:
The ceasefire was broken by the IRGC this morning — how do I know? I’m here in Israel.
I had to scoop up my children and run for shelter.

One of those Iranian missiles struck a residential building in Beersheba, murdering four civilians — including members of the same family.

In the past 12 days, Iran’s regime has targeted civilians daily:
Nearly 30 people killed
Thousands injured and displaced

So Mr. President, with all due respect — please check your facts. We’re living them."
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This doesn't negate the fact that Israel heavily bombed Iran after the cease fire was announced and before it took effect. I think our admin's mixed message is partly responsible for that. Regardless Israel's dumb*uckery move in those hours between the announcement and the cease fire taking effect reeks of poor sportsmanship.

“I’m not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, ‘OK now you have 12 hours,’ you don’t go out to the first hour, just drop everything you have on, so I’m not happy with them. I’m not happy with Iran either,” he said.
 
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How can you make a comparison to previous administrations? Their numbers reflect the totality of their terms. This administration is only 150 days in.


Also to point out, those other administrations were not sending out ICE agents with complete face masks with no identifying badges to snatch people from schools, churches, and federal buildings trying to follow required immigration procedures. Because this administration has a packed SCOTUS doesn’t make any of what’s happening just.
 
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Pretending that all people living in Israel support what their government is doing is disingenuous. It would be no different than saying all American citizens agree with our current policies.

Last night Vance admitted our country and Israel don’t know where the enriched uranium Iran had actually is. We bombed Iran two days prior because they had enriched uranium. Now all of a sudden no one knows where it is and this isn’t important?
 
ItsMainelyYou said:
Both are targeting innocent people and using lies to justify it.
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When Israeli civilians are killed in war, they call it murder; when they kill civilians in war, they call it collateral damage.
 
Calliecake said:
Now all of a sudden no one knows where it is and this isn’t important?
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It's very important because Iran now has greater incentive to produce nuclear weapons than it did 12 days ago regardless of their signaling that they want peace.
 
Shoooooot!!!!
I guess this delays that Nobel Peace Prize....
Matata said:
It's very important because Iran now has greater incentive to produce nuclear weapons than it did 12 days ago regardless of their signaling that they want peace.
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I read that other nations like North Korea are offering to supply Iran with Nukes because of what we did......
 
To be clear, our POTUS isn’t interested in peace in the Middle East, except for how it would effect him. It’s the perception of winning. It’s all about getting the Noble Peace Prize.
Everyday is like a new episode of his reality TV world.
 
All the Israelis and Iranians I know are very interested in peace
One cannot compare the regime to the humans living there

And just in case you missed it

It's easy to preach peace and be "anti-war" when the real threat isn't at your door.
When you're safe, moralizing is easy.

It's easy to talk down to people fighting for their lives, to label self-defense as "aggression" from behind a screen.

You've never faced annihilation.
Yet somehow, you feel entitled to tell Jews and Israelis how to survive...
That's not morality, it's privilege, dressed up as principle. It's virtue signaling.

We want peace but we do not have the luxury of being delusional because it's our lives at stake.
We know peace is earned by standing up to those who seek your destruction, not by pacifying them.
 
I was being sarcastic about the enriched uranium not being important.

He sat in the Situation Room wearing his red hat.
 
missy said:
We want peace but we do not.......snip
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Can WE stick to things WE feel and not assign our feelings to an entire race, religion or nationality?
 
Calliecake said:
I was being sarcastic about the enriched uranium not being important.
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I know but there are those who think that bombing their nuclear sites somehow prevents the future.
 
Matata said:
This applies only to those who blindly follow him.
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I like how it’s inferred that anyone who is horrified by this unconscionable behavior by a sitting President is “deranged” :roll:
 
Out of the mouth of POTUS:
“We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don’t know what the f**k they’re doing”
 
missy said:
You've never faced annihilation.
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You've repeatedly warned that we as well as the entirety of western civilization face annihilation by extremists in the Middle East. We heard you.
 
Lookinagain said:
The press secretary is denying this
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The admin can't take another hit -- tariff war F+; big beautiful parade F; big beautiful budget bill D-. The ego is so fragile it might spur dropping a big beautiful bomb on unsuspecting real and false allies.
 
Matata said:
You've repeatedly warned that we as well as the entirety of western civilization face annihilation by extremists in the Middle East. We heard you.
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Rockdiamond said:
Can WE stick to things WE feel and not assign our feelings to an entire race, religion or nationality?
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Feel free to ignore my posts if you don’t like what I’m posting or how I’m posting. I promise I won’t take it personally

Hope you voted today David
That’s the way to make real change
 
My polling place closes at 9, I'll be there on the way home. I vote.
I like reading your posts....you have a point of view, and it's as valid as anyone else's.
Of course, post whatever you like within the rules.
From my perspective, using a term like "we" in a discussion like this weakens your position.
If "we" means people of a given race, or religion....
Can we at least agree that there's just not a broad consensus on some of the most important aspects we're debating?
I know in my religion there are a lot of different viewpoints on all these issues.
Religion is being used to divide us.
The deli ad....
Sad.
 
Matata said:
and Russia and China.
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Along with Pakistan.
It's also giving weight to legitimizing Iran needing their own deterrent.
So, if we're talking about neutralizing a threat? This past short while was a cascade of the stupidest tactical decisions one could make.


 
It seems like only in the last 12mths some here have gone from calling your President one of the most evil men to walk the earth to suddenly seeing him as the Messiah and giving him Carte Blanche to do any act he sees fit without your government having the power to reign him in.

Sorry but he is still a sex offender criminal who is only interested in lining his own pockets. NONE of these actions are for the safety and security of your country, let alone the safety of the world at large.
 
Rockdiamond said:
My polling place closes at 9, I'll be there on the way home. I vote.
I like reading your posts....you have a point of view, and it's as valid as anyone else's.
Of course, post whatever you like within the rules.
From my perspective, using a term like "we" in a discussion like this weakens your position.
If "we" means people of a given race, or religion....
Can we at least agree that there's just not a broad consensus on some of the most important aspects we're debating?
I know in my religion there are a lot of different viewpoints on all these issues.
Religion is being used to divide us.
The deli ad....
Sad.
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Yes of course
For the record I’m not the slightest bit religious
However I’m Jewish through and through
And I’m very spiritual
I agree religion divides and that’s a big part of this problem imo
This war is not over land but I won’t digress

It's disheartening seeing how facts are twisted
How biased social media and “news” sources are
I just post my pov plus facts to share a different perspective


Many here (not you David) are intolerant of a perspective different than their own
I appreciate your willingness to hear different points of view


I’ve done a lot of research and reading and talking to friends from different countries, cultures, backgrounds to learn and understand as much as I can. I don’t take any of this lightly


When I post “we” I am talking about not just me but others who share this perspective

PS I am not familiar with the “deli ad”
 
HGar said:
It seems like only in the last 12mths some here have gone from calling your President one of the most evil men to walk the earth to suddenly seeing him as the Messiah and giving him Carte Blanche to do any act he sees fit without your government having the power to reign him in.

Sorry but he is still a sex offender criminal who is only interested in lining his own pockets. NONE of these actions are for the safety and security of your country, let alone the safety of the world at large.
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+ 1 billion

I couldn’t agree with you more @HGar.
 
Matata said:
This doesn't negate the fact that Israel heavily bombed Iran after the cease fire was announced and before it took effect. I think our admin's mixed message is partly responsible for that. Regardless Israel's dumb*uckery move in those hours between the announcement and the cease fire taking effect reeks of poor sportsmanship.

“I’m not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, ‘OK now you have 12 hours,’ you don’t go out to the first hour, just drop everything you have on, so I’m not happy with them. I’m not happy with Iran either,” he said.
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I'm surprised anyone took his "word" that a ceasefire was happening seriously anyways. He constantly lies and tells the world that "I made a deal with so and so" and that person is like "Wait, what? That's news to us". So it's not shocking that no one else had any clue what was happening.
 
Bonfire said:
To be clear, our POTUS isn’t interested in peace in the Middle East, except for how it would effect him. It’s the perception of winning. It’s all about getting the Noble Peace Prize.
Everyday is like a new episode of his reality TV world.
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I think it's about distracting from the dumpster fire breakup and epstein comments..

eta - also that no one showed up to his birthday party [SAD]
 
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