IS and Aset images - what do you think?

[melz]

I received yesterday images for a diamond I plucked from the virtual inventory using the parameters I''ve learned here ... I''m used to seeing perfect images here which these are not, but I think this diamond is still doing okay for itself. I''m curious to hear what the experts think, however.

 

[melz]

Ideal Scope:

 

[JulieN]

looks great!

 

[Laila619]

Hi there! Images look good. The arrows are not super precise though which I'm sure you already noticed.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/22/2010 10:34:37 AM
Author: Melz
Ideal Scope:

Its a very good image, some of the arrows are broken but that needn''t be a dealbreaker unless you want perfect patterning.

 

[stone-cold11]

Looks good.

 

[Dreamer_D]

What are the specs on the diamond? The images look good. It will not be a super duper ideal perfecto in terms of patterning, but that is not required for a beautiful diamond.

 

[melz]

Thanks everyone! The specs are 1.78 I SI1. GIA ex/ex/ex

T = 54%
D - 61.3%
CA = 34%
PA = 41%

ETA: dimensions are 7.85 - 7.88 x 4.82. Is this facing up slightly large for its size?

 

[melz]

Here is the clarity plot. I don't know which are the twinning wisps and which are the feathers though. Anyway I'm told it's eye clean.

 

[Dreamer_D]

It is facing up large-ish for the size... my 1.66ct is 7.65mm and comparable 1.74ct on BGDs site is 7.74mm. But that is not a bad thing

What does WF say about the stone''s optics? Will this stone qualify for their upgrade policies?

I see you opted to go for a new diamond, will you replace it in your old setting or will you just wear this one instead?

 

[melz]

Date: 4/22/2010 3:48:48 PM
Author: dreamer_d
It is facing up large-ish for the size... my 1.66ct is 7.65mm and comparable 1.74ct on BGDs site is 7.74mm. But that is not a bad thing

What does WF say about the stone''s optics? Will this stone qualify for their upgrade policies?

I see you opted to go for a new diamond, will you replace it in your old setting or will you just wear this one instead?

mmmm congrats on your new beauty dreamer! i voted for the trellis btw! i''ve always liked that one too. although i was recently captivated by a classic solitaire setting for sale on jewelsbyericagrace. it was a leon mege. i think when i get to change settings i may go for something like that.

as for this find, it is qualifying for their 100% trade up and buyback policies, and i was told it would have "definitely" made their expert selection category. the other i posted about, the 2.01, was much less bright than this one and would not have qualified for 100% trade-up so that made the decision simple.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 4/22/2010 4:23:04 PM
Author: Melz

Date: 4/22/2010 3:48:48 PM
Author: dreamer_d
It is facing up large-ish for the size... my 1.66ct is 7.65mm and comparable 1.74ct on BGDs site is 7.74mm. But that is not a bad thing

What does WF say about the stone''s optics? Will this stone qualify for their upgrade policies?

I see you opted to go for a new diamond, will you replace it in your old setting or will you just wear this one instead?

mmmm congrats on your new beauty dreamer! i voted for the trellis btw! i''ve always liked that one too. although i was recently captivated by a classic solitaire setting for sale on jewelsbyericagrace. it was a leon mege. i think when i get to change settings i may go for something like that.

as for this find, it is qualifying for their 100% trade up and buyback policies, and i was told it would have ''definitely'' made their expert selection category. the other i posted about, the 2.01, was much less bright than this one and would not have qualified for 100% trade-up so that made the decision simple.

I think it soulds like this diamond is a winner then! With it qualifying for ugrades etc it makes it a much safer buy IMO since you can then change it if you want/need to.

 

[melz]

Me, upgrade again? ...........

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 4/22/2010 4:32:51 PM
Author: Melz
Me, upgrade again? ...........

I was thinking more if the color or clarity was not what you wanted or something!

 

[melz]

I would actually like perfection in terms of hearts and arrows but this diamond fits the budget and I think the H&A bit is more of a mind thing. So yes, trade up is important for the day I can afford perfection! I honestly expect to be fine with the color and clarity though. But who can say what new desires the future will bring ....

 

[ChunkyCushionLover]

Date: 4/22/2010 5:25:26 PM
Author: Melz
I would actually like perfection in terms of hearts and arrows but this diamond fits the budget and I think the H&A bit is more of a mind thing. So yes, trade up is important for the day I can afford perfection! I honestly expect to be fine with the color and clarity though. But who can say what new desires the future will bring ....

You didn''t post the H&A images but I can tell you I see some digging in the girdle, some missing hotspots(areas of contrast) and the pavillion mains look to have some deviation, some are longer than the others. The optical symmetry is far from perfect. Some of this is more than mind clean but how much of a difference you would notice in real world performance I really couldn''t say a lot of these things are only minor detractors.

It would be best to view the diamond in person and have the option to return, also worthwhile to get the opinion of an experienced appraisor as well..

 

[melz]

Date: 4/22/2010 7:41:40 PM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover
You didn't post the H&A images but I can tell you I see some digging in the girdle, some missing hotspots(areas of contrast) and the pavillion mains look to have some deviation, some are longer than the others. The optical symmetry is far from perfect. Some of this is more than mind clean but how much of a difference you would notice in real world performance I really couldn't say a lot of these things are only minor detractors.

It would be best to view the diamond in person and have the option to return, also worthwhile to get the opinion of an experienced appraisor as well..

Thanks for your comments. What is digging in the girdle? ETA: read up on this, seems it's not a bad thing always and when it is it should affect the cut grade, no?

 

[melz]

Not sure if this is helpful:

 

[Dreamer_D]

I think you have found a good non H&A diamond there! If it is good enough to be an ES then personally, that would be good enough for me.

What is the price?

 

[melz]

Thanks Dreamer. With my wire pricescope discount, $11250!

 

[ChunkyCushionLover]

Date: 4/22/2010 9:13:35 PM
Author: Melz

Date: 4/22/2010 7:41:40 PM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover
You didn't post the H&A images but I can tell you I see some digging in the girdle, some missing hotspots(areas of contrast) and the pavillion mains look to have some deviation, some are longer than the others. The optical symmetry is far from perfect. Some of this is more than mind clean but how much of a difference you would notice in real world performance I really couldn't say a lot of these things are only minor detractors.

It would be best to view the diamond in person and have the option to return, also worthwhile to get the opinion of an experienced appraisor as well..

Thanks for your comments. What is digging in the girdle? ETA: read up on this, seems it's not a bad thing always and when it is it should affect the cut grade, no?

I would ignore my comments about the pavillion angle deviation as it is well within the excellent range.

Here is an article on painting and digging http://journal.pricescope.com/Articles/45/1/Visible-Effects-of-Painting--Digging-on-Superideal-Diamonds.aspx just for reference but I now cannot even say for sure that I see a dug out girdle. Something is causing assymetry and a little too much green in ASET on the outer facets but I can't put my finger on what it is, not enough information without a full sarin the abbreviated report is not enough.

You don't have to overthink this too much just ask Bob Hoskins what he thinks of it, how it would compare to other ES selections and to an ACA. You could ask him what is causing the assymetry and a little too much green in the ASET.

Good-luck,
CCL

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 4/22/2010 9:40:09 PM
Author: Melz
Thanks Dreamer. With my wire pricescope discount, $11250!

A very good price!

 

[yssie]

Nice find, Melz!

 

[Lorelei]

I am interested to see what happens Melz, even though its not a h&a diamond it does have definite potential.

 

[Laila619]

I went back to look at the ASET because CCL noted that it had some more green than usual and he's right! I would ask Bob why there are those green blobs at the bottom of the image.

 

[Dreamer_D]

The ASET image looks tilted to me, which could account for the uneven green, no?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/23/2010 10:36:48 AM
Author: Laila619
I went back to look at the ASET because CCL noted that it had some more green than usual and he's right! I would ask Bob why there are those green blobs at the bottom of the image.

Its not an in house stone of top cut quality with the near perfect images we are used to seeing, and as such there can be variations in the images and possible tweaking, this might not interfere in a negative way with visual performance, Bob will be able to advise in any case.