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Is 63.2% depth (53% table) too deep? 1.6 HCA

I love the tiny table of this diamond! It is very unusual to find such, at least in my experience. The depth doesn't necessarily mean bad performance, but it will face up smaller compared to other diamonds of the same weight with depth of less than 62. I saw you said that you will not be able to get an IS unless you purchase the stone. That or and ASET will be the determining factor for me.. otherwise the stone looks to be crisp and it has nicely defined arrows. The angles are good and that small table is TDF!
 
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SimoneDi said:
I love the tiny table of this diamond! It is very unusual to find such, at least in my experience. The depth doesn't necessarily mean bad performance.l, but it will face up smaller compared to other diamonds of the same weight with depth of less than 62. I saw you said that you will not be able to get an IS unless you purchase the stone. That or and ASET will be the determining factor for me.. otherwise the stone looks to be crisp and it has nicely defined arrows. The angles are good and that small table is TDF!
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Simone, thank you so much for your response! Yes, the diamond is overseas so they cannot do the ASET unless I purchase it and have it shipped to James Allen. I currently have another comparable diamond that is faint brown and a 1.6 HCA as well. I am thinking I might return for this one.
 
blushbliss said:
Simone, thank you so much for your response! Yes, the diamond is overseas so they cannot do the ASET unless I purchase it and have it shipped to James Allen. I currently have another comparable diamond that is faint brown and a 1.6 HCA as well. I am thinking I might return for this one.
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Your other stone is also lovely, but you seem to keep on thinking about changing it which leads me to believe that you are not 100% satisfied with it.. Let's see what others have to say about the new diamond.
 
It actually looks really nice. For that price, I’d probably go for it!

My 1.7 carat diamond was less deep and was about 7.7mm. Not a huge difference IMO
 
Is 63.2% depth (53% table) too deep?
No, it's not! Because you should look at the whole picture, not one piece of the puzzle. The most important is the combo of all measurements. If HCA is 1.6, this diamond has excellent light performance! I like it, because I personally am a fan of smaller tables =)2
 
Here is the idealscope for this diamond. I have never seen one that is so vivid red as opposed to deep red... is this variation typical of different idealscope photography or due to light leakage?

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the shade of red shouldn't mean anything (correct me if I'm wrong, experts) - could be different idealscopes or lighting conditions (maybe backgrounds too?). You just don't want to see a lot of white. I do see some leakage under the table though - hopefully an expert will weigh in on whether it's a dealbreaker
 
HappyNewLife said:
the shade of red shouldn't mean anything (correct me if I'm wrong, experts) - could be different idealscopes or lighting conditions (maybe backgrounds too?). You just don't want to see a lot of white. I do see some leakage under the table though - hopefully an expert will weigh in on whether it's a dealbreaker
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Thanks for your response! I think you are right re: red colouring after I have done a little research. Also, there is definitely some leakage in the table but I am not sure if it is enough to be overly concerned with, which is what I am hoping others will chime in about. I think it looks fairly similar to the first diamond I posted about with similar amounts of leakage... but it is very hard to tell considering the deeper red shade of the IS image for the first diamond.
 
blushbliss said:
... some leakage in the table ...
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The stone is a little tilted downward: notice that the 'leakage' appears opposite to thinning-out of the small white 'V' marks formed where the ends of the kite facets meet ... (tilt down corresponds with tilt up accross the diamond)

RED: I'd say you are right that there are shades of red in IS image, due to the degree of brighteness of the diamond (that kind of IS pink is ASET green). Lighting shifts all colours at once ... I do not expect any ASET green. [From memories of DiamCalc use: the pink that is due to less brighteness rather than lighting, forms geometric patterns, symmetrically aranged alongside the classical arrows]

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Pleading 'not guilty' !
 
valeria101 said:
The stone is a little tilted downward: notice that the 'leakage' appears opposite to thinning-out of the small white 'V' marks formed where the ends of the kite facets meet ... (tilt down corresponds with tilt up accross the diamond)

RED: I'd say you are right that there are shades of red in IS image, due to the degree of brighteness of the diamond (that kind of IS pink is ASET green). Lighting shifts all colours at once ... I do not expect any ASET green. [From memories of DiamCalc use: the pink that is due to less brighteness rather than lighting, forms geometric patterns, symmetrically aranged alongside the classical arrows]

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Pleading 'not guilty' !
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Hi Valeria!

Thank you for your insightful response.

I am having a little trouble interpretting your feedback, so hopefully you can clarify? When you say the diamond is tilted, does that mean that perhaps there is not quite as much leakage as it appears?

With regard to red, pink and ASET green. Are you trying to say that you would not expect to see much green ASET leakage?

Lastly, what did you mean by not guilty? Is this a positive or negative in favour of the diamond and its IS image. Sorry I feel like a total newb lol.
 
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"When you say the diamond is tilted, does that mean that perhaps there is not quite as much leakage as it appears?"

Exactly. I do not believe there is any leakage.


"With regard to red, pink and ASET green. Are you trying to say that you would not expect to see much green ASET leakage?"

I do not expect any green to speak of, in the ASET of this diamond. (in all there are small green dots at some facet junctions)


"Lastly, what did you mean by not guilty?"

Well, I was appologizing for how silly-technical this whole story of IS, ASET & H&A is ... ,-(
 
valeria101 said:
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"When you say the diamond is tilted, does that mean that perhaps there is not quite as much leakage as it appears?"

Exactly. I do not believe there is any leakage.


"With regard to red, pink and ASET green. Are you trying to say that you would not expect to see much green ASET leakage?"

I do not expect any green to speak of, in the ASET of this diamond. (in all there are small green dots at some facet junctions)


"Lastly, what did you mean by not guilty?"

Well, I was appologizing for how silly-technical this whole story of IS, ASET & H&A is ... ,-(
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Thank you very much for clarifying! Your posts have made me feel much better about the diamond. I think I really like it :)
 
It says it is sold!

@blushbliss - did you get it?? :)
 
looking at the video, it looks amazing. I hope you're the one who put it on hold!
 
this thread should be referenced when someone asks whether it's possible to find an eye-clean SI1. I can't see anything in that diamond!
 
overly bright back light and some tilt, combined with someone playing with the brightness in post processing to pop the red in the IS.
The diamond itself is fine.
 
HappyNewLife said:
this thread should be referenced when someone asks whether it's possible to find an eye-clean SI1. I can't see anything in that diamond!
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I know, I was so excited to find it! The inclusions are only visible from the base per the GIA report and even them there are only two. A cloud in one of the arrows and a feather elsewhere.
 
Sooooo... when does it arrive!!?
 
Congrats on your new diamond! I've been following along in the background and it's been a lot of fun reading what everyone is saying. :)
 
lalala said:
Sooooo... when does it arrive!!?
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Well, actually I'm pretty set on this diamond so I am having it shipped straight to David Klass for setting. He is going to send me some photos and give me his opinion of the diamond when it arrives on Monday.
 
Here are a couple photos from DK. The colour looks pretty good! He said it faces whitish and draws colour from the side through a loupe. I am moving forward with the diamond and having it set :)
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looks like a great find I love that small table as well! I can’t wait to see more pictures!
 
Looks beautiful! Can't wait to see the end result!!! :dance:
 
Ahhh! I love it. It is being sent out tomorrow! These are screen shots from a video DK sent that is too large to load so the quality is a little subpar, but I think we get the picture :)

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