Inherited diamond help?

[flickeringlights]

Hi everyone! I'm a newbie to pricescope! I inherited a diamond that was my great grandmother’s and my boyfriend and I recently had it reset.

Once the diamond was removed from the original setting, the jeweler told us it was an old european miner cut - I’ve been researching since he told us and am a bit confused as I thought there was a difference between OEC and OMC? Or does it look transitional? What kind of pattern does it have? It looks very round so I’m assuming it’s OEC but I’d love to find out what you can tell from these pictures since I am completely new to this!

Other info:
H color
1.94 ct
SI1
size 8 finger

I have been lurking for a while - you all have such amazing knowledge and am excited to see what you have to say!!! BTW I took these photos on my iPhone - hopefully these are clear!

In original setting:



In the new setting:


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and some of the colors!

 

[Tophat1]

I'm afraid your pics aren't showing up for me, but this sounds like a very interesting stone. Can't wait to see!

 

[flickeringlights]

I'm afraid your pics aren't showing up for me, but this sounds like a very interesting stone. Can't wait to see!

oy sorry, trying to figure out now!!

 

[kenny]

We are not allowed to do what you have done, post links to pics that are hosted externally.
(In fact clicking on the link now takes us to a Pricescope error message instead of taking us to the photo)

You have to actually upload the pics here.

Click on the blue button for Upload a File and tell it were to find the file for the pic.
Here is a screen capture showing you what to look for when you edit your post.
BTW, you only get 45 minutes to edit, then your post is locked.



The reason for this PS policy: people sometimes delete externally-hosted pics later and PS ends up looking ridiculous with dead useless links.
When you upload the pics to PS, PS has them and can display them forever.

I'm also looking forward to seeing this cool diamond.
I love old cuts.

 

[flickeringlights]

We are not allowed to do what you have done, post links to pics that are hosted externally.
(In fact clicking on the link now takes us to a Pricescope error message instead of taking us to the photo)

You have to actually upload the pics here.

Click on the blue button for Upload a File and tell it were to find the file for the pic.
Here is a screen capture showing you what to look for when you edit your post.
BTW, you only get 45 minutes to edit, then your post is locked.



The reason for this PS policy: people sometimes delete externally-hosted pics later and PS ends up looking ridiculous with dead useless links.
When you upload the pics to PS, PS has them and can display them forever.

I'm also looking forward to seeing this cool diamond.
I love old cuts.

Thanks for your help! I think I got it sorted out now!

 

[Tourmaline]

You are correct that old mine and old European are different, but this has a lower crown and a larger table, and I would call it an early round brilliant cut diamond (later than transitional).

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Right, it's not an OEC for the reasons Tourmaline said. However, it is very special having a diamond from your grandmother! I adore the original setting, too!

 

[flickeringlights]

You are correct that old mine and old European are different, but this has a lower crown and a larger table, and I would call it an early round brilliant cut diamond (later than transitional).

Thank you so much, that makes sense. Do you have any more info on early round brilliant cuts? Would love to learn more about it.

 

[flickeringlights]

Right, it's not an OEC for the reasons Tourmaline said. However, it is very special having a diamond from your grandmother! I adore the original setting, too!

TY! Yes it feels very special to have inherited her stone! The original setting is going to go to my mother since it actually fits her finger!

 

[bmfang]

Liking the original setting and the stone itself!

 

[flickeringlights]

Liking the original setting and the stone itself!

Ty! Unfortunately the original setting is about 3 sizes too small for me - fits my mom perfectly though so she's going to keep it! I am also picky about the ring from the side and it wasn't really my style. Here's the side shot:

 

[ringo865]

Very pretty.

 

[rubybeth]

An OMC is an Old Mine Cushion. Your stone is round so it's definitely not an OMC.

It also looks more modern cut to me. Do you know when it might have been purchased, approximately? Or where it may have been purchased (NYC, etc.)?

This page from GIA may help to describe the differences between OEC, transitional, and modern cuts: https://www.gia.edu/gia-news-research-round-brilliant-cut-diamond-pay

 

[flickeringlights]

An OMC is an Old Mine Cushion. Your stone is round so it's definitely not an OMC.

It also looks more modern cut to me. Do you know when it might have been purchased, approximately? Or where it may have been purchased (NYC, etc.)?

This page from GIA may help to describe the differences between OEC, transitional, and modern cuts: https://www.gia.edu/gia-news-research-round-brilliant-cut-diamond-pay

Thanks so much for the link - very helpful read!

I believe the ring was purchased in NYC and most likely in the 1940s (though it's possible it was purchased slightly earlier - my family isn't 100% sure on the timing).

 

[Tourmaline]

Transitional diamonds were sort of a trial and error phase between OEC and modern round brilliant. Your diamond has facets more similar to modern round brilliant, though the angles and proportions on diamonds cut during this period varied. Your diamond has a lower crown angle than both OEC and modern round brilliant cut diamonds. My diamond (in my profile picture) is also an early round brilliant.

 

[flickeringlights]

Transitional diamonds were sort of a trial and error phase between OEC and modern round brilliant. Your diamond has facets more similar to modern round brilliant, though the angles and proportions on diamonds cut during this period varied. Your diamond has a lower crown angle than both OEC and modern round brilliant cut diamonds. My diamond (in my profile picture) is also an early round brilliant.

I looked at your SMTB thread, your ring is stunning!!! So beautiful. This is all so fascinating! It sounds like diamonds from this period were all over the spectrum. I'm so excited about the ring and stone no matter what but I'm very curious to hear from an experienced eye...can you tell the cut quality from the photos? I find it to be very sparkly in various kind of light (and it flashes a lot of color) but I have no experience on the matter and not much to compare to lol!

 

[Tourmaline]

It's great that you inherited a diamond and that you love it. I will warn you that comparing one's own diamond, inherited or not, to other diamonds is a slippery slope, and it can lead to dissatisfaction with one's stone, which isn't necessarily a worthwhile thing.

 

[flickeringlights]

It's great that you inherited a diamond and that you love it. I will warn you that comparing one's own diamond, inherited or not, to other diamonds is a slippery slope, and it can lead to dissatisfaction with one's stone, which isn't necessarily a worthwhile thing.

Thanks for your insight, Tourmaline! I'm just curious more than anything since I've gotten conflicting views from jewelers.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

it looks like a lovely stone! Jewelers will have varied opinions on old stones because most don't see a lot of them, and this one is not clearly an OEC, transitional, or modern round brilliant. My tendency is to agree with Tourmaline that it likely is late transitional/early modern round . I will say there are a lot of modern round brilliants with large tables and low crowns, but yours clearly was from the early period of them.