Imminent purchase help - 2.5 H SI1

[mic261]

Hi diamond experts,

I am imminently about to purchase this:

Summary:
2.532 ct H SI1 Whiteflash ACA Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Diamond

. Shape: Round
. Carat: 2.532
. Depth %: 62
. Table %: 56.1
. Crown Angle: 34.8
. Crown %: 15.2
. Star : 54
. Pavilion Angle: 40.9
. Pavilion %: 43.2
. Lower Girdle %: 76
. Girdle: Thin to Medium
. Measurements: 8.71-8.73X5.40
. Light Performance: 0
. Polish: Ideal
. Symmetry: Ideal
. Culet: Pointed
. Fluorescence: None

- I have never purchased a diamond before, let alone over the Internet
- I want something in the 2.5ct range or higher, H&A, white to the naked eye (IE: cannot see yellow from side view) and inclusions invisible from the top table view and from the side view (eye clean will do top and side)

I have spoken to a consultant at Whiteflash who was very helpful and has recommended this item .. It has been stated the item is in the top half of H and that it is eye clean, it was also mentioned that there are clouds, but there is no ''sheen'' - it appears crisp and clear and sharp.

My problem is that without seeing the item it is very difficult to give the go ahead ... Do you think it is risky to purchase H SI1 with these expectations? Should I be looking in the G / VS range?

Based on this, is it reasonable to expect a white piece with no yellow tint and no visible inclusions upon close inspection?

Any thoughts?

Thank you in advance ...

 

[stone-cold11]

Numbers look good. Can you post the Idealscope and Hearts images here?

Everyone''s color perception is different, so no one can tell you that you will not be able to see the color. But when mounted the color difference should not be noticeable unless you are comparing it side by side with a G or better color. Eye-cleanliness should be easily determine by you when you get the stone. If you do not like it, just return it within 30days to get a refund.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/8/2010 8:43:47 AM
Author: Stone-cold11
Numbers look good. Can you post the Idealscope and Hearts images here?

Everyone's color perception is different, so no one can tell you that you will not be able to see the color. But when mounted the color difference should not be noticeable unless you are comparing it side by side with a G or better color. Eye-cleanliness should be easily determine by you when you get the stone. If you do not like it, just return it within 30days to get a refund.

Ditto, if you could please.

H colour should still be very white even in a diamond of that size, ask Bob Hoskins to look at the diamond for you so you can discuss it, he will be able to tell you how the colour grade presents itself in this particular stone and its suitability concerning its ' eyecleanliness' or lack of as the case may be.

 

[mic261]

Idealscope: http://www.whiteflash.com/pimg/IdealScope/IS_AGS-1040399530003.jpg

H&A: http://www.whiteflash.com/pimg/hearts/H_AGS-1040399530003.jpg

I think brilliance and optics will be great - no issues here ...

More concern is in relation to H color and SI1 inclusions ... I am currently in touch with Bob to get his thoughts, but wanted to hear other experts comments ...

I am also in Australia so the return process is a little more tedious so trying to nail a winner and not have to go through all of that ...

From this basic info, given that there are inclusions (clouds) and the facts originally, do you think this will be eye clean, including from the side?

Finally, I realize everyone has different color tastes and perception, but at a reasonable ''high'' H level, from your experience, does that still appear colorless?

Thank you again!

 

[stone-cold11]

No one can assess the eye-cleanliness of a stone from just description, inclusion plot or even photos, only the vendor with the stone in his hand can say.

 

[Dancing Fire]

mine kind of stone.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/8/2010 9:28:08 AM
Author: mic261
Idealscope: http://www.whiteflash.com/pimg/IdealScope/IS_AGS-1040399530003.jpg

H&A: http://www.whiteflash.com/pimg/hearts/H_AGS-1040399530003.jpg

I think brilliance and optics will be great - no issues here ...

More concern is in relation to H color and SI1 inclusions ... I am currently in touch with Bob to get his thoughts, but wanted to hear other experts comments ...

I am also in Australia so the return process is a little more tedious so trying to nail a winner and not have to go through all of that ...

From this basic info, given that there are inclusions (clouds) and the facts originally, do you think this will be eye clean, including from the side?

Finally, I realize everyone has different color tastes and perception, but at a reasonable 'high' H level, from your experience, does that still appear colorless?

Thank you again!

The images look excellent. As for the SI1 being eyeclean, make your expectations absolutely clear to Bob or whoever you are working with, for example, if you don't want to see any visible inclusions from any angle or distance, make sure they understand that so you are both on the same page. There is no way to tell from the clarity plot of the report as this is not a reliable way to judge whether a diamond is eyeclean or not.

To me an H colour of that size is extremely white, again check with your WF rep to find out more how the colour grade shows itself in this particular diamond.

 

[mic261]

Thank you for your comments - that is very helpful.

I am dealing with Bob and he has said that it is eye clean.

Couple more questions:

1. He said that there is a ''large cloud'' in the diamond but no black spots and it is eye clean. Despite there being a ''large cloud'', does this impact the brilliance / fire / scintillation of the stone? Is the stone let down by this cloud, even if it is still called ''eye clean'' by the vendor? Will the unaided eye even see the cloud?

2. Is color more evident in smaller or larger stones. EG: if I had a mid range H 1ct vs a mid range H 2.5ct, is it more likely to see the color in the larger stone or in the smaller stone? IE: in a larger stone, is the color ''lost'' more, vs. in the smaller stone where color may be more compacted?

Thanks!!

 

[stone-cold11]

Date: 4/9/2010 8:15:31 AM
Author: mic261
Thank you for your comments - that is very helpful.

I am dealing with Bob and he has said that it is eye clean.

Couple more questions:

1. He said that there is a ''large cloud'' in the diamond but no black spots and it is eye clean. Despite there being a ''large cloud'', does this impact the brilliance / fire / scintillation of the stone? Is the stone let down by this cloud, even if it is still called ''eye clean'' by the vendor? Will the unaided eye even see the cloud?

2. Is color more evident in smaller or larger stones. EG: if I had a mid range H 1ct vs a mid range H 2.5ct, is it more likely to see the color in the larger stone or in the smaller stone? IE: in a larger stone, is the color ''lost'' more, vs. in the smaller stone where color may be more compacted?

Thanks!!

1) maybe the cloud will affect like return maybe not, case by case situation. Bob will know what to look for and advice you accordingly.

2) probably not as color is graded from the side, pavilion against a master stone set.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/9/2010 8:15:31 AM
Author: mic261
Thank you for your comments - that is very helpful.

I am dealing with Bob and he has said that it is eye clean.

Couple more questions:

1. He said that there is a 'large cloud' in the diamond but no black spots and it is eye clean. Despite there being a 'large cloud', does this impact the brilliance / fire / scintillation of the stone? Is the stone let down by this cloud, even if it is still called 'eye clean' by the vendor? Will the unaided eye even see the cloud? Bob wouldn't recommend such a diamond if the cloud had a negative affect, check with him for your peace of mind but you can have confidence in his judgement if he says the cloud is not an issue.

2. Is color more evident in smaller or larger stones. EG: if I had a mid range H 1ct vs a mid range H 2.5ct, is it more likely to see the color in the larger stone or in the smaller stone? IE: in a larger stone, is the color 'lost' more, vs. in the smaller stone where color may be more compacted? Actually colour or warmth may be more detectable in larger sizes, again someone like Bob that can see the stone in person and indeed has viewed thousands of diamonds is your best source of advice, also you are covered with a return policy in the very unlikely event you weren't happy. A top cut diamond such as the stone you are considering should look very white still, to me and some others an H colour is a sweet spot where you can maximize the size but will still look very white for the budget.

Thanks!!

 

[mic261]

Guys

I decided to go ahead and make the purchase.

I have just received the 2.532 ct H SI1 Whiteflash ACA H&A and couldnt be happier!

I just want to say a very big thank you to Bob Hoskins at WhiteFlash, he was very patient and extremely helpful! I honestly didnt know which way it would turn out, but as per his email to me ''trust me, you will be very happy'' - I certainly am!

I will post photos after the deed is done

Thank you WhiteFlash!

 

[yssie]

Congratulations!!!



It must be a beauty!! Can you post some pics for us?

 

[wsblue430]

Congrats!! Pics please! It sounds gorgeous! How will you set it??

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/19/2010 8:04:35 PM
Author: mic261
Guys

I decided to go ahead and make the purchase.

I have just received the 2.532 ct H SI1 Whiteflash ACA H&A and couldnt be happier!

I just want to say a very big thank you to Bob Hoskins at WhiteFlash, he was very patient and extremely helpful! I honestly didnt know which way it would turn out, but as per his email to me ''trust me, you will be very happy'' - I certainly am!

I will post photos after the deed is done

Thank you WhiteFlash!

Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!

 

[mic261]

Here is a pic

 

[Laila619]

Congrats! What are you thinking for the setting?