I''m one angry hornet. Am I wrong?

[stepcutgirl]

I have been trying to sell my car for a while, tonight i finally did. Though it is my car it is in my bf''s name and therefor he had to sign all the paper work. I was in two accidents back to back and it is too expensive to insure me.

So I make the deal with the guy. I explain to him that it is being sold as is. He asks me if there any problems and I tell him to the best of my knowledge there are only cosmetic issues. He says ok. We meet back with my boyfriend for them to do the paper work.

Well after all is said and done and signed...I find out my boyfriend signed to let him have a 20 day inspection and if he is not happy he returns the car and we return the money! I have heard of this with newish cars but this is a 2001 with 200k miles! I am LIVID! I don''t have a problem with the guy taking it to a mechanic and getting it checked out pre sale. I would have agreed to that, but now he has 20 days where he could break something could wreck it could do anything and I''m stuck taking the car back and giving the money back. Oh and he is taking the car to Orlando to get checked out, I am near West Palm! That is 2 hours away! there is nothing I can do about it and he basically can just not like anything and return it. I am so not ok with this!

And to make it worse...I have something this money was going to pay for and now I have no idea if I will have the money to pay for it or not. Did I mention I am LIVID!!!!

 

[iheartscience]

20 days?! That''s RIDICULOUS. I''ve never even heard of something like that when dealing with private sellers. The fact that the seller even had an agreement like that makes him seem sketchy.

I would have your boyfriend call the guy and tell him the 20 day inspection isn''t going to work after all and if he wants to return the car he needs to do it ASAP. And I would be super pissed at your boyfriend if I were you!

 

[whitby_2773]

WHOA.......

i would be Not OK with this. i mean REALLY not ok. this is EXACTLY the sort of thing which would put me over the edge - being cut out of an arrangement - which has all the ramifications for me - by two MEN who have a cosy little blokey chat and...

oh gees stepcut - i''d be swinging from the light fittings on this one with you!

 

[whitby_2773]

Date: 2/8/2010 7:49:12 PM
Author: thing2of2
20 days?! That''s RIDICULOUS. I''ve never even heard of something like that when dealing with private sellers. The fact that the seller even had an agreement like that makes him seem sketchy.


I would have your boyfriend call the guy and tell him the 20 day inspection isn''t going to work after all and if he wants to return the car he needs to do it ASAP. And I would be super pissed at your boyfriend if I were you!

and ditto this. EVERYTHING about this could go wrong. make your boyfriend call - this is a stupid idea. you''re not a car dealership, for goodness sake! private sale - buyer beware - etcetc.

get your car back.

 

[IloveAsschers13]

What is your boyfriend saying about this? Did you tell him you are that mad. That''s ridiculous and pretty low of him.

 

[joflier]

I''ve never heard of doing something like that for a private party sale. I agree with letting someone take it to a mechanic to check it out, but a 20 day trial run???? Maybe I''m being pessimistic, but I can only see not-so-good things coming from that.... All my private party sales (of anything, including cars) buying or selling are:
1. As is
2. Cash or certified funds
3. All sales final

 

[that_someone_special]

WOW... I would be so mad! I hope the guy doesn''t scam you.... I mean, what if he takes parts from the car and returns it??? What if he gets the window smashed in.. and just wants to return it?? HOLY CRAP.

 

[waterlilly]

OMG. Wost idea ever. I would find out what your rights are in terms of ending the deal. Telling the guy that either he signs a bill of sale tomorrow for AS IS or the deal is off.

Maybe someone else knows what her rights are?

I can not believe your BF did that - who's idea was it? If it was the buyer's idea, I'd be prepared for a big old pain in the but problem.

Really sorry to hear this.

I've never heard of this even with new cars, never mind one like you described.

 

[upgrade]

I''d be livid too. I think you''re right to be so angry, but I don''t know how the problem can be fixed now. If the purchaser has a signed contract stating that he has 20 days then I don''t really see how it can be revoked by you or your bf at this point. You can ask for the car back, but he has the legal right to say no and hold you to the 20 day return period. Not a good situation. Yup, bf in doghouse, for sure!

 

[joflier]

Date: 2/8/2010 8:15:39 PM
Author: waterlilly
OMG. Wost idea ever. I would find out what your rights are in terms of ending the deal. Telling the guy that either he signs a bill of sale tomorrow for AS IS or the deal is off.

Maybe someone else knows what her rights are?

I can not believe your BF did that - who''s idea was it? If it was the buyer''s idea, I''d be prepared for a big old pain in the but problem.

Really sorry to hear this.

I''ve never heard of this even with new cars, never mind one like you described.

I''ve heard of this w/ certian new car dealerships. Well, not exactly like this, but they offer a deal where if you don''t like it w/in 30 days, bring it back, and you can trade it for something different. But I don''t believe they hand you a check back, though.

 

[MichelleCarmen]

Who''s insurance will be covering the car during the 20-days? Make sure the guy adds it to his policy.

 

[yssie]

Whoa, yeah, so not cool.



Your BF has signed the two of you over into a HUGE liability -he needs to call the buyer and tell him the terms are changing right quick!



ETA: Do you have photos of all parts of the car? Documents from its most recent checkup? Keep them very, very safe, and ditto MC - make sure you aren't accountable for the insurance for this "trial period"!

 

[Lady_Disdain]

You sold your car - period. Cash your check, deposit the money and move on with your life.

If the buyer returns the car for whatever reason, then let your boyfriend buy it back with his own money. It was not your arrangement and it is not your duty. This should teach your BF about staying out of your deals.

 

[stepcutgirl]

My boyfriend heard it from me on the ride home. He''s still currently hearing it. I was only 10 feet away watching my boyfriends son while this was all happening! The guy who bought it told my boyfriend that he and I had agreed to this. What I agreed to was to sign something saying to the best of my knowledge there was nothing wrong with the car.

When I told the buyer that I was not comfortable with this that was when he told me that it was risk for him to because he was going to title and insure it and it was going to cost him money and made me feel like this was a perfectly normal thing and that by me not being comfortable with it I must have something to hide.

When I got home I thought it was just me. That I was just being paranoid so I posted this knowing that PSers tend to speak their mind when they think you are wrong. Since you all made me feel like it was ok that I don''t feel comfortable with this I went and told my bf that I want this undone. I will give him back all his money and I want my car back...tonight. He agreed and called. The buyer did not answer but he left a message asking him to call us back and explaining that I want my car back.

He said if he does not call back tonight or in the morning that he will call again tomorrow. The guy has the right to say no though.

 

[Upgradable]

I''m probably going to be jumped regarding my reply but....... technically it IS your boyfriend''s car since it is in his name. I''d be after him for the money.

 

[Bella_mezzo]

Not ok!!!!

It is technically your boyfriend''s car so I''d tell him to change the terms of the deal ASAP.

 

[Upgradable]

Just a question: How can you change the terms of a deal AFTER it has been agreed to and signed by both parties?

 

[stepcutgirl]

He can''t change the terms of the deal. Once the bill of sale is signed then it''s a contract. This guy has the right to tell me to take a hike and then return my car on day 20. I really hope he will return my car. I''m so upset about this. I kinda feel bad for my boyfriend. He realizes now that he should have checked with me to make sure I said that but when the guy told him that he and I agreed to it, he just assumed I did. He''s upset now. he knows what he did was wrong. Doesn''t undo this though.

 

[VegasAngel]

VERY BAD idea. I hope you didn't take a check. What if he doesn't insure it & gets into an accident, what if it gets stolen? If he decides to return it how many miles will he have added & in what condition will it be returned in? 20 day trial...wow.

 

[stepcutgirl]

Date: 2/8/2010 8:29:54 PM
Author: MC
Who''s insurance will be covering the car during the 20-days? Make sure the guy adds it to his policy.

His is. He asked us to leave it under ours and we said no.

 

[Kaleigh]

Live and learn. At least going forward he won''t do this again....

 

[stepcutgirl]

Date: 2/8/2010 9:02:33 PM
Author: VegasAngel
VERY BAD idea. I hope you didn''t take a check. What if he doesn''t insure it & gets into an accident, what if it gets stolen? If he decides to return it how many miles will he have added & in what condition will it be returned in? 20 day trial...wow.

I got cash, not a check so I physically have the money. Those are questions I have too. I don''t know what to do if this guy just refuses our phone calls. I feel sick about it.

 

[joflier]

Date: 2/8/2010 9:02:39 PM
Author: stepcutgirl

Date: 2/8/2010 8:29:54 PM
Author: MC
Who''s insurance will be covering the car during the 20-days? Make sure the guy adds it to his policy.

His is. He asked us to leave it under ours and we said no.

He asked you to do what??? I''m sorry - that just seems shady.

 

[movie zombie]

Date: 2/8/2010 9:02:39 PM
Author: stepcutgirl

Date: 2/8/2010 8:29:54 PM
Author: MC
Who''s insurance will be covering the car during the 20-days? Make sure the guy adds it to his policy.

His is. He asked us to leave it under ours and we said no.

and while you said no, he still may not take out insurance and you''ll not know. that means any accident he has in your BOYFRIEND''S car...it is in his name after all....will leave him open to law suit. perhaps that will motivate your boyfriend to do more than make a phone call.

personally, i''m in the camp that says cash the check....hope it doesn''t bounce....and when the car comes back let boyfriend give the $ back on the car that was legally in his name and legally sold by him.

mz

 

[kama_s]

So this guy essentially LIED to your bf and said you two had agreed to something you actually hadn''t? If that''s indeed the case, then honey, sorry to say it, but you''re SOL.

Sadly, there are several unscrupulous people out there. Chances are he might just end up using your car as a free rental. I highly doubt he''d agree to giving the car back to you, and he''s legally entitled to his 20 days since the contract has been sgined. Chalk it out to a lesson learned. What the hell was your boyfriend thinking????

 

[VegasAngel]

Cash, good. Now I would follow Lady_Disdain's advise & spend your money. If there is a problem let your BF deal with it.

 

[perry]

You are correct to be upset about the 20 days; but, your concerns about what happens if he wrecks the car are actually covered.

He has to return it to you in good condition (nominally as good as when he got it). You can deduct for damages incurred on the car if he returns it. This is standard legal practice. Thus, if he wrecks it; or blows the engine.... You keep the money (or at least all but a nominal $50 or so for scrap value).

Perry

 

[stepcutgirl]

Date: 2/8/2010 9:10:17 PM
Author: movie zombie

Date: 2/8/2010 9:02:39 PM

Author: stepcutgirl

Date: 2/8/2010 8:29:54 PM

Author: MC

Who''s insurance will be covering the car during the 20-days? Make sure the guy adds it to his policy.

His is. He asked us to leave it under ours and we said no.

and while you said no, he still may not take out insurance and you''ll not know. that means any accident he has in your BOYFRIEND''S car...it is in his name after all....will leave him open to law suit. perhaps that will motivate your boyfriend to do more than make a phone call.


personally, i''m in the camp that says cash the check....hope it doesn''t bounce....and when the car comes back let boyfriend give the $ back on the car that was legally in his name and legally sold by him.


mz

The car is no longer insured or owned by us. He signed a bill of sale and the title over. The car is technically sold and is no loner ours but because of the 20 days to get it inspected that means he has the right if something, anything, is wrong with the car to give it back for his money back.

 

[Upgradable]

Date: 2/8/2010 9:10:17 PM
Author: movie zombie

Date: 2/8/2010 9:02:39 PM
Author: stepcutgirl

Date: 2/8/2010 8:29:54 PM
Author: MC
Who''s insurance will be covering the car during the 20-days? Make sure the guy adds it to his policy.

His is. He asked us to leave it under ours and we said no.

and while you said no, he still may not take out insurance and you''ll not know. that means any accident he has in your BOYFRIEND''S car...it is in his name after all....will leave him open to law suit. perhaps that will motivate your boyfriend to do more than make a phone call.

personally, i''m in the camp that says cash the check....hope it doesn''t bounce....and when the car comes back let boyfriend give the $ back on the car that was legally in his name and legally sold by him.

mz

+1

 

[that_someone_special]

Date: 2/8/2010 9:15:16 PM
Author: perry
You are correct to be upset about the 20 days; but, your concerns about what happens if he wrecks the car are actually covered.


He has to return it to you in good condition (nominally as good as when he got it). You can deduct for damages incurred on the car if he returns it. This is standard legal practice. Thus, if he wrecks it; or blows the engine.... You keep the money (or at least all but a nominal $50 or so for scrap value).


Perry

Assuming he''s OK with it and doesn''t attempt to sue her over it, right?

So let''s say he steals ... seat belts out of the back seat and they don''t notice it right away and he tries to return it. They give the money back... then.. oops? Or what if they notice it and say, "Ok, here is $800 less because of the missing seatbelts" and he says, "No way, it was like that way when I got it..."


See where I''m going? The ball is in this guy''s court. I hope he plays nice.. and fair!