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Ideal_Rock
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Maybe the real reason our furbabies like to cuddle in bed with us is they're checking for a pulse.
Haha, one of mine sleeps under the covers with me by my knees
Maybe the real reason our furbabies like to cuddle in bed with us is they're checking for a pulse.
The article says:
"No one tracks the frequency of pets scavenging their expired owners’ bodies, but dozens of such case reports appear in forensic science journals over the last 20 years or so, and they’re the best window we have into a situation dreaded by pet owners: dying alone and being eaten."
At the end it gives advice on how to prevent this situation (have your home looked in on by others, to see if you have expired, etc.).
Am I the only one who finds this focus bizarre?
Why is the worst thing having one's body eaten rather than dying? Is being cremated or buried a better way to dispose of one's body than to have one's dog eat it? apparently, it is natural!
AGBF
someone who has dogs explained to me that they should not eat a warm body. This makes me feel better.The article says:
"No one tracks the frequency of pets scavenging their expired owners’ bodies, but dozens of such case reports appear in forensic science journals over the last 20 years or so, and they’re the best window we have into a situation dreaded by pet owners: dying alone and being eaten."
At the end it gives advice on how to prevent this situation (have your home looked in on by others, to see if you have expired, etc.).
Am I the only one who finds this focus bizarre?
Why is the worst thing having one's body eaten rather than dying? Is being cremated or buried a better way to dispose of one's body than to have one's dog eat it? apparently, it is natural!
AGBF
someone who has dogs explained to me that they should not eat a warm body. This makes me feel better.
However, dead body produces ptomaine, the poison. I would be more concerned about the health of the animals eating dead owners.
P.S. apparently not that simple. This story in general sounds horrible, but also, the first successful face transplant. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabelle_Dinoire
yes, all tragic. Ms. Dinore actually was heartbroken when her dog was put down, it was not her idea at all.Yes, I had read that story. Not only do I love all dogs, but I had a yellow Lab. I am heartbroken for the dog who was euthanized for no reason. Certainly that situation would never have been replicated! People are idiots. It is also sad that, having recovered from a suicide attempt and decided to live, Ms.Dinoire succumbed to cancer at a relatively young age.
AGBF
I have not gotten into the face transplant yet. I want to deal with one topic at a time. I know you are a physician, but this sounds like malarkey to me. I would not deny (since I have no idea what happens when bodies decompose and I suppose chemicals and poisons run riot in them) that ptommaine could be present in a human corpse. But why would it be present there in more quantity than in the flesh of any other species that is eaten by carnivores? And, also, how have humans been safely eaten by other humans in the past if ptomaine is present in such great quantities as to make human flesh poison? This is hardly my area of expertise, but I am skeptical.
Deb
- the situation with dead bodies exposed to elements (aerobic) is very different to the one where the master is lying dead in the closed room for days, alone with his dogs.
(snip)
- in human cannibalism, no one waited for days, and uneaten parts, if any, were kept outside.
Fred wanted to share his photo here too since I included his siblings. So last night he struck a ferocious pose for me to share here. Looks like he would definitely devour his human mommy and daddy if he was hungry and we weren't fast enough to feed him...
Feed me humans before I tear your heads off!
Did you see the teeth on that beast? That's not a cat! That's a snaggle-toothed dragon!
I may be wrong, but I think you are basically saying simply that fresh, clean human meat is healthier for dogs to eat than rotting, old human meat that was left un-refrigerated.
More or less what one would say about hamburger.
It makes sense to me!
Deb
Some labs have a genetic defect that doesn't allow them to know when to stop eating, probably similar to alcoholism. We had a lab that we nicknamed t-rex. He even ate banana peels!
Not all of them have the defect but those who do need to be limited.
As far as would he eat us? Perspective: dogs eat their own poo, so discrimination is not their strong suit, right?
That's your opinion because you are uh, human-o-centric. From a dog's point of view, that poo is delectable. And so is some of the poo of other canines (not all poo). Dogs choose what poo of other dogs they eat carefully (at least most do). they sniff it and decide which has ingredients in it that they want; these decisions are not made at random! Remember, poo contains leftover food. I can clearly see that my dog's poo is largely sweet potato since he snacks on that all day. It is most distinctive.
AGBF
Of course I'm human-o-centric - I'm a human-o.
Gotta say though Deb, it scares me juuuust a little that you are so intimately familiar with your dog's poo. I love my dog, but examining his poo is not on my list of priorities. Of course I do have the luxury of not having to shovel manure, as I have a husband for that. It's still not an equal trade for me having to chase lab sheddings 24/7 in the house, but at least it's one (real) sh** detail, I don't have to deal with.
I wonder if dogs get anxious when regular master-dog relationship is broken, or there is no master. I wonder if they view us akin to gods and the stress when we cease to be such is more than immense. I never had a dog, so I may not understand certain things, but would you agree that in general, we are not the first targets of the animals? I had to reread "Love of life" by Jack London, like this story in general, esp. since it is about our Northwest. He made some interesting observations about wolves and their attitude to prey. http://london.sonoma.edu/writings/LoveLife/life.html
Arkteia, I know dogs get anxious when the relationship with their master is broken. One of my friends was murdered when I was in high school. She had lived across the street from us for years and moved to another part of town about two years earlier. I worked with one of her newer neighbors a few years later. The man had said that after her death her dog would wait at the end of the block everyday for hours waiting for her to come from school. The dog would just pace hoping to see her.