I think I got screwed :-(

[Gypsy]

I usually balance the 4 C's with a Cut quality being the most important. With you I am putting size first, cut second, then clarity (because it's a step cut), the last color. You would put these on HOLD and ask for an ASET of them .

If this one is eyeclean it might be a possibility. http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/asscher-cut/1.55-carat-j-color-vs2-clarity-sku-303454 6.3mm $7K

Very pretty K: http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/asscher-cut/1.25-carat-k-color-vvs2-clarity-sku-292984 6mm spread. Under budget

Those are the only two asschers at JA that I think maximize your spread.

I also wanted to see if you wanted to consider a radiant? You did like that wonky faceting on that other stone. SO maybe a square radiant might be a nice change for you.

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-5164514-1.60-carat-Radiant-diamond-J-color-VS1-clarity.aspx This one gives you a lovey facet pattern and 6.6 mm in size!!! And it would be a lovely choice for you. I think if you want to maximize size this might be an option you want to consider. ASET is posted, the stone has great light return. You could by this now.

For fancies you do not compare weight. You compare dimensions/spread.

 

[CharmyPoo]

I guess I take a bit of a different standpoint. Why don't you wait to see the stone first and see how you feel? The cut on this stone is pretty unique and I rather like it. You may feel the same and not love all the other emerald cuts or radiants you see out there. On a side note, I do not believe this is a crisscut - looks completely different to me.

Yeah, we know it's not a H VS1 but you also didn't pay the price of a H VS1. I just checked on James Allen and a 1.2 ct J VS2 radiant is $4410. So, why don't you see it first and see if you like it because perhaps for the budget you have ... you rather have a lower colored and clarity stone than a smaller one. You can get more accurate grading from an appraiser to see what your diamond is actually forth.

 

[instag8te]

This was my original stone, I don't have a side profile. It was a 1 ct asscher cut with a insurance appraisal stating it was a F color and VVS1 clarity. My budget is $5000, I can add another $1000 to the stone as well.

 

[CharmyPoo]

I just read the entire thread - looks like I am late to the game and missed numerous advances. eBay auction + website listing = different stones. Have no idea what stone you would have even gotten. Glad you got the refund! I am sure gypsy will find you an awesome stone .. she is amazing at it and has helped many people on here and saved them out of a lot of bad decisions!

 

[Gypsy]

Ok. SO that setting looks like it is made specifically for a certain sized stone. It doesn't have a peg head.


What I need from you:
Do you have any paperwork on the old stone that lists the DIMENSIONS (not the carat weight) of the old stone? I need that information. A 1 carat asscher can face up anywhere from 5.2mm to 6.0mm And that's a HUGE range when you are talking about prongs and heads in a setting.

If you do NOT have that information. I need you to take the head to a local jeweler (where are you we can help you find a good one). PLEASE LEAVE YOUR WALLET AT HOME. DO NOT BUY ANYTHING. And ask them to measure the head to tell you EXACTLY what sized diamond your setting can hold.

Good news: We can get you a lovely stone for your budget. And since your setting probably cannot take anything over 6mm that opens up your budget for a nicer quality stone for it.

Information: You will NOT be able to put a much larger stone than your original in that setting. So the stone you had bought on ebay would not have fit anyway.

I'll post some nice stone options for you. You work on getting me the measurements.


Charmypoo: thank you very much. I really appreciate your endorsement.

 

[Gypsy]

What lab graded your original stone? Was it a GIA graded stone, or other lab?

This is the stone that I like the best:
You can afford higher color, but this stone is really lovely so I thought I'd post it: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11586/ It faces up at 5.5 which is pretty average for asschers at 1 carat. And it saves you a lot of money at 4000. It has an ASET posted. And lots of pictures. If you wanted the fastest way to getting a lovely stone. If your old stone was 5.5mm or there abouts: this would be one you could by right now without any additional information.

The pickings are slim at JA. I couldn't find any stones that I really liked. These are the best of the bunch:
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/asscher-cut/1.03-carat-d-color-vs1-clarity-sku-97677
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/asscher-cut/1.03-carat-e-color-vvs2-clarity-sku-305191
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/asscher-cut/1.02-carat-f-color-vs2-clarity-sku-273640

They are all right around 5.5mm as that is the most likely size of your last stone. But I would need you to confirm that. And hopefully you can.
IF they are the right size you would put all three on hold and ask for them to get you ASET images of them. And that would take 3 business days. Then you would post those, and the gemologist's comments, and we'd help you pick the best one of the bunch.

 

[jazzandchocolate]

Looks like you really dodged a bullet there! I agree with everyone else...if you're buying from an unknown seller, it's better to stick to buying ON and not OFF ebay. Now, the only one on ebay that I see (and there were less than 40 total in your price range) was item # 251605169939. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-14ct-K-Internally-Flawless-Asscher-Cut-GIA-Great-R5821-Diamonds-by-Lauren-/251605169939?pt=Loose_Diamonds&hash=item3a94d63713 It's 1.14 K/IF and is GIA certified w/link to certificate. Most vendors don't have asschers readily available, but this one has real pictures of the actual diamond (very important!) Its in your budget, has the prominent "steppiness" so you can actually tell its an asscher unlike the one you just purchased. Notice how this one is a K, but looks the same color or whiter then the "H" from the other vendor. This is why Gypsy (and others) stress not to use certs from other certifiers. GIA and AGS are the best...hands down. Anyway, I would contact them to see if this diamond is still available, as well as the other diamonds listed above.

 

[jazzandchocolate]

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[Gypsy]

Looks like you really dodged a bullet there! I agree with everyone else...if you're buying from an unknown seller, it's better to stick to buying ON and not OFF ebay. Now, the only one on ebay that I see (and there were less than 40 total in your price range) was item # 251605169939. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-14ct-K-Internally-Flawless-Asscher-Cut-GIA-Great-R5821-Diamonds-by-Lauren-/251605169939?pt=Loose_Diamonds&hash=item3a94d63713 It's 1.14 K/IF and is GIA certified w/link to certificate. Most vendors don't have asschers readily available, but this one has real pictures of the actual diamond (very important!) Its in your budget, has the prominent "steppiness" so you can actually tell its an asscher unlike the one you just purchased. Notice how this one is a K, but looks the same color or whiter then the "H" from the other vendor. This is why Gypsy (and others) stress not to use certs from other certifiers. GIA and AGS are the best...hands down. Anyway, I would contact them to see if this diamond is still available, as well as the other diamonds listed above.

I don't recommend the OP getting this stone. Why? Her sidestones are probably higher color if her old stone was an F (assuming the previous stone was reliably graded). And it's likely this stone is going to be too big for her existing setting.

That's why once she posted the information about her previous stone, and the pictures of the previous setting I chose stone with higher color and smaller spread. If she wants to send it in her old setting, we need to make sure it's the best match to that setting as possible. It's unlikely that this one will be that match.

It is a lovely cut though. Also, honestly she'd be better off buying from a reputable vendor and not on ebay. Not that DBL isn't reputable, they are, but I was speaking in general terms.

 

[jazzandchocolate]

Looks like you really dodged a bullet there! I agree with everyone else...if you're buying from an unknown seller, it's better to stick to buying ON and not OFF ebay. Now, the only one on ebay that I see (and there were less than 40 total in your price range) was item # 251605169939. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-14ct-K-Internally-Flawless-Asscher-Cut-GIA-Great-R5821-Diamonds-by-Lauren-/251605169939?pt=Loose_Diamonds&hash=item3a94d63713 It's 1.14 K/IF and is GIA certified w/link to certificate. Most vendors don't have asschers readily available, but this one has real pictures of the actual diamond (very important!) Its in your budget, has the prominent "steppiness" so you can actually tell its an asscher unlike the one you just purchased. Notice how this one is a K, but looks the same color or whiter then the "H" from the other vendor. This is why Gypsy (and others) stress not to use certs from other certifiers. GIA and AGS are the best...hands down. Anyway, I would contact them to see if this diamond is still available, as well as the other diamonds listed above.

I don't recommend the OP getting this stone. Why? Her sidestones are probably higher color if her old stone was an F (assuming the previous stone was reliably graded). And it's likely this stone is going to be too big for her existing setting.

That's why once she posted the information about her previous stone, and the pictures of the previous setting I chose stone with higher color and smaller spread. If she wants to send it in her old setting, we need to make sure it's the best match to that setting as possible. It's unlikely that this one will be that match.

It is a lovely cut though. Also, honestly she'd be better off buying from a reputable vendor and not on ebay. Not that DBL isn't reputable, they are, but I was speaking in general terms.

You know, i didn't even think about sidestones! I thought maybe she wanted to stick to ebay, and thought I'd pop in her price range to see if anything came up. Besides this stone, I definitely wouldn't buy what she's looking for from ebay...so many other vendors out there that will work with/help her get the best of what she needs without the pressures of eBay. Well, its a lovely stone...hopefully someone will get it. A great asscher is hard to come by it seems.

 

[Gypsy]

jazz, very much so! Asschers have a lot of quirks and issues. Marquise are hard too. And so are pears. I have to say those three are the top three most difficult to hunt for I think.

 

[jazzandchocolate]

jazz, very much so! Asschers have a lot of quirks and issues. Marquise are hard too. And so are pears. I have to say those three are the top three most difficult to hunt for I think.

Yes! Difficult, exciting, and stressful at the same time! Lol. I went back to read if the op wanted to reset her stone, recycle the metal/side stones to form a new setting, or just get a replacement diamond for her existing setting. I'm guessing just a replacement. Well, if anyone can help her, its the PSers!

 

[instag8te]

1. So the appraisal was done by a local jeweler, we didn't buy the ring from him, he did the solder on the 2 rings.
2. I very much want to keep my setting.
3. And the size of the stone that fell out was 5.52 x 5.33 x 3.95 girdle thickness is med.

So the guy who graded it had no interest in it, He was just a family owned jeweler that had great word of mouth recommendations. In Arizona, there are diamond stores on every corner, so we talked to a lot of people before we took our jewelery to him.

 

[Sky56]

That is great to hear about the refund. Please let Gypsy and the others guide you through the process. They are excellent and their only motivation is to help people get a great stone that meets their need. Cut is King.

 

[Gypsy]

OK so these should all work, hopefully. The 1.02 F from JA is the best fit for your setting. But I think all of them can potentially fit. If you like the GOG stone, it's huge budget saver for you. If you don't want an I color then follow my instructions for the JA stones beloe.

What lab graded your original stone? Was it a GIA graded stone, or other lab?

This is the stone that I like the best:
You can afford higher color, but this stone is really lovely so I thought I'd post it: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11586/ It faces up at 5.5 which is pretty average for asschers at 1 carat. And it saves you a lot of money at 4000. It has an ASET posted. And lots of pictures. If you wanted the fastest way to getting a lovely stone. If your old stone was 5.5mm or there abouts: this would be one you could by right now without any additional information.

The pickings are slim at JA. I couldn't find any stones that I really liked. These are the best of the bunch:
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/asscher-cut/1.03-carat-d-color-vs1-clarity-sku-97677
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/asscher-cut/1.03-carat-e-color-vvs2-clarity-sku-305191
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/asscher-cut/1.02-carat-f-color-vs2-clarity-sku-273640

They are all right around 5.5mm as that is the most likely size of your last stone. But I would need you to confirm that. And hopefully you can.
IF they are the right size you would put all three on hold and ask for them to get you ASET images of them. And that would take 3 business days. Then you would post those, and the gemologist's comments, and we'd help you pick the best one of the bunch.