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Rough_Rock
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Hi. I am having a lot of trouble with finding a nice oval shape diamond. The biggest problem for me is the bow tie effect... I would love to have an oval diamond with minimal or hardly no bow tie effect. I had visited a local jeweler who had ordered 7 ovals for me to look at...all of different color spectrums but they had a dark bow tie across the width of the diamond. She says that all ovals will have a bow tie and I understand that but will all be prominent like that?

I am looking for an oval, budget is as high as $5000 but I would like to stay below that if possible, minimum is 1 carat, max color is I, open to preowned...

I want to find an diamond online because I feel like I can find a nicer diamond for better price
 
Contact Good Old Gold with your budget and requirements and they will hand pick an ovals and make a video for you to chose from. Others will probably provide you with links to some as well , but you will need to get an ASET for them.
 
I had much of the same experience while shopping for my oval. Ovals are an elongated shape, so by nature they will usually have some sort of light leakage across the center since the facets are stretching to meet the length of the stone. However, they certainly do not all have a prominent bowtie. As the previous post said, it would be best to contact a trusted merchant and have them choose stones to show you. Good Old Gold comes highly recommended on here.

There are stones out there that have very minimal light leakage and lots do not show it in a bowtie shape at all, facing up nice and bright! Just based on what I can see in the videos, these stones from James Allen look like they do not leak much light in the center there. I know they have a policy where they will send you ASET images and you can also purchase them to see in person and always return.

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.00-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-sku-272001

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.03-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-sku-171007

you can also get a pricescope discount if your purchase from James Allen!
 
It can be difficult to find these diamonds, but they do exist.

You will want to be sure that you have a good return period so that If your definition of a minor bow tie and your vendors are not the same you will not be stuck with a diamond you do not want.

Sadly, there is no easy depth and angle formula to give you to help you with your search.

Wink
 
Here is what I found on JA


This looks beautiful...someone might have already posted it
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.00-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-sku-272001

Here is another nice one.
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.03-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-sku-171007

Others...with problems...
Looks like it has some mush but no bow-tie
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.01-carat-d-color-si2-clarity-sku-171311

Beautiful cut but has a crack on the table
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.01-carat-g-color-si2-clarity-sku-277850

edit - I see duckduckgoose posted both those top two...good find
 
How can a 1.86 oval possibly be less than 5000? Does it have a GIA report?
 
JulieN|1390966226|3603112 said:
How can a 1.86 oval possibly be less than 5000? Does it have a GIA report?
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This.
 
Actually this diamond is more than $5000, I just didn't want to make a thread....
 
flippingdiamonds|1390965461|3603103 said:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/igsxjdr6u90kqjs/1.86 ct oval video.MOV

I know it is a terrible video but what do you guys think of this diamond? getting more pictures tomorrow...
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I think I'm seeing a black inclusion under the table in the video.

I like the small table and faceting of this stone:
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.03-carat-h-color-si1-clarity-sku-171007

I would get an aset and compare to the ones from GOG
 
I think that
A) you didn't answer the question about the lab report.
B) does not look remotely eyeclean.
C) looks like quite tinted.

And it looks like I would prefer a smaller 1 carat clean and white diamond if I was the average lady and I told my boyfriend I wanted an oval.
 
I have a 1.20ct F pear, I looked at many pears and ovals and all of them have a bow tie, with the shape its impossible to avoid, however if you love this shape then it is possible to find one with a light bow tie. My pear has a bow tie that is definitely noticeable but its a light one, so in lighting situations where the non bow tie area of the diamond is not as sparkly, the bow tie is lovely looking, it also picks up different tones of light and different reflections to the rest of the diamond. There are also different types of bow ties, some are the actual bow shape and some are small angular shapes across the width of the diamond, something to consider as well.

So if you are intent on getting this shape a bow tie is something you will need to live with but its a quirk of the diamond and I have come to think of mine as quite beautiful and interesting.
 
hey, so, in your preloved thread you said youre open to any shape as long as its over a ct and 5000.... so with that in mind i found this

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10782/

its an elongated cushion, so looks a bit like an oval. Has the color and ct weight requirements, and no issue with a bowtie.
 
I really like that pear... the oval has a GIA report. Its H and SI2 but eye clean and I did mention how it looked tinted in the video but they said they "guarantee it will not show a tad bit of color"
 
Hi TYTY,

I'm also looking for an Oval. The 3rd link you posted above you said "mush" what do you mean by that? Also, does the extremely thick girdle on that stone trouble you at all?

Thank you
 
sunnypier|1391009649|3603325 said:
Hi TYTY,

I'm also looking for an Oval. The 3rd link you posted above you said "mush" what do you mean by that? Also, does the extremely thick girdle on that stone trouble you at all?

Thank you
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By mush we mean that the facets are not clearly defined. You want clean, clear facets...for example, this stone looks mushy too.
(mush usually means light loss)

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/11347/

Yes, normally we want to stay away from extremely thick because it hides weight. However, with fancy cut stones sometimes
you have to take what you can get (other factors are more important ).
 
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This is the picture of the oval. I asked for more pictures.

Is there any thing else I should ask from them?
 
Does a more round oval (roval) have less bow tie effect than a more elongated oval? Or is it just a matter of good cut?
 
Cut.
 
OK so is it a GIA H? Or some other lab? If it's a GIA H we'll let the tint issue go.

I think it looks like a nice cut. I'm still concerned about clarity though. Do they say it is eyeclean?
 
Gypsy|1391042138|3603801 said:
OK so is it a GIA H? Or some other lab? If it's a GIA H we'll let the tint issue go.

I think it looks like a nice cut. I'm still concerned about clarity though. Do they say it is eyeclean?
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They said it is 100% eye clean. I saw other pics of the diamond and it is way whiter than that pic I posted. And yes it is GIA

I'm concerned about the table and depth. It has 46.2% table and 59.2% depth...what do you think? That is a really small table
 
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