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kenny said:Misandry is not a name.
It is a verb.
kenny said:Also I do not link certain kinds of respect with gender.
We're equal now.
AGBF said:kenny said:Also I do not link certain kinds of respect with gender.
We're equal now.
First of all, you mean, "sex". "Gender" applies only to grammar.
Second, in your opinion, we are all equal now. You don't speak for everyone, you know.
AGBF
AGBF said:Second, in your opinion, we are all equal now. You don't speak for everyone, you know.kenny said:Also I do not link certain kinds of respect with gender.
We're equal now.
AGBF
kenny said:Next, I really don't care if you respect me or not.
Kindly don't threaten me with "loss of respect as a man." Whatever!
Perhaps we could stick to the issue instead of about Kenny's manhood.
How Victorian that is.
This often happens when someone feels perceives they are losing and argument.
They stop talking about the subject and start making their "opponent" smaller.
We don't have to agree AGBF.
There really is no argument to win or loose.
Your opinion and mine are equal.
We are both free to express them, but how bout we make a deal ... I won't attack your character, or suggest you are "loosing respect as a woman".
Kindly return the favor.
kenny said:Next, I really don't care if you respect me or not.
Kindly don't threaten me with "loss of respect as a man." Whatever!
Perhaps we could stick to the issue instead of about Kenny's manhood.
How Victorian that is.
This often happens when someone feels perceives they are losing and argument.They stop talking about the subject and start making their "opponent" smaller.
We don't have to agree AGBF.
There really is no argument to win or loose.
Your opinion and mine are equal.
We are both free to express them, but how bout we make a deal ... I won't attack your character, or suggest you are "loosing respect as a woman".
Kindly return the favor.
Karl_K said:no not picking on Kenny...
crasru said:AGBF said:kenny said:I love mammary glands bracelets won't sell.
So do better. Or, better yet, step aside and let women handle it. We can use our brains and we don't need Hugh Hefner to help us. We are sure to be able to think of a slogan if we have to go the bracelet route for fund rasing. After all, we're the ones who had to hold bake sales for school supplies all these years while the Pentagon got billions from the taxpayers for bombers.
Deb/AGBF
Debbie,
It is very sad but due to the recession the country has little money to fund scientific research. It hit pharmaceutical companies, too. So whatever helps... even Hugh Heffner. Science is just dying without federal grants. In many areas we are behind Philippines and South Korea. I don't think people understand the real situation with cancer research - any research, for that matter. Do you know that if someone dies, the established practice is to bring the unused chemo medications to the hospital... to distribute among the living ones for free? Which had not been done before. But things are so incredibly expensive. So if "boobies" campaign helps... I am for it!
AGBF said:kenny said:I love mammary glands bracelets won't sell.
So do better. Or, better yet, step aside and let women handle it. We can use our brains and we don't need Hugh Hefner to help us. We are sure to be able to think of a slogan if we have to go the bracelet route for fund rasing. After all, we're the ones who had to hold bake sales for school supplies all these years while the Pentagon got billions from the taxpayers for bombers.
Deb/AGBF
bean said:I don't understand how this is an offensive campaign. I find it funny, and "young". If someone doesn't want to buy anything in the "I love boobies" campaign that's fine.. buy a pink bracelet or whatever. This is just another way to reach another group of people. Just like there are different genres of music to buy, or different types of churches to attend (in faith but also style).. Something for everyone.
ETA: and I've known of this campaign for a while- I didn't know there were bracelets yet, but I've seen their stickers as far back as 2 or 3 years ago.
Imdanny said:AGBF said:kenny said:I love mammary glands bracelets won't sell.
So do better. Or, better yet, step aside and let women handle it. We can use our brains and we don't need Hugh Hefner to help us. We are sure to be able to think of a slogan if we have to go the bracelet route for fund rasing. After all, we're the ones who had to hold bake sales for school supplies all these years while the Pentagon got billions from the taxpayers for bombers.
Deb/AGBF
Deb, your comment doesn't make much sense to me. I hope you don't think that all men support the Pentagon getting untold amounts of money to conduct wars. I certainly don't.
kenny said:Another thing some people do when they perceive they are loosing an argument is they start looking for spelling and grammar errors. - as if that has anything to do with the subject being discussed, or wins them points.
Tearing down the "opponent".
How bout we talk about the subject instead of each other.
kenny said:Misandry is not a name.
It is a verb.
AGBF said:Imdanny said:AGBF said:So do better. Or, better yet, step aside and let women handle it. We can use our brains and we don't need Hugh Hefner to help us. We are sure to be able to think of a slogan if we have to go the bracelet route for fund rasing. After all, we're the ones who had to hold bake sales for school supplies all these years while the Pentagon got billions from the taxpayers for bombers.
Deb/AGBF
Deb, your comment doesn't make much sense to me. I hope you don't think that all men support the Pentagon getting untold amounts of money to conduct wars. I certainly don't.
When one speaks of the sweeping forces of history, Danny, one looks at the big picture. I am sure that during the Reformation, some individual Catholics did not want to burn Lutherans at the stake, but that does not make it incorrect to state that the Catholics burned the Lutherans at the stake. I was stating that men have always made the wars; women have always made the bake sales, made the quilts, and knit the sweaters. And I stand by that.
Deb/AGBF
soocool said:The biggest problem I have with the bracelets is that it targets one specific type of cancer. Yes, As I mentioned before my mom died from breast cancer as have several of my friends over the past 5 years. But I also have a friend who has melanoma, another brain cancer,and a friend's daughter has leukemia.
All diseases are heartbreaking. My very good friend of almost 20 years has MS, another acquaintence was diagnosed with MS a few months ago. My high school friend died drom Lou Gehrig's Disease at age 19. Many of my friends who are over 50 yrs old are suffering from heart disease, including myself. More of my friends have died from cardiovascular disease in the past 10 years than those from cancer or any other disease.
The point is, do not target one part of the body to raise "funds" or more importantly "awareness". We seem to remember the diseases that have affected us the most and forget those that have no relevance to us. Cancer, heart disease and many other diseases have the potential to take away lives. Instead of wearing bracelets schools should incorporate educating students in regards to these diseases instead of just focusing on sex, drugs, and alcohol.
somethingshiny said:I keep seeing posts that indicate these bracelets trivialize or otherwise demoralize the disease or its victims. Maybe I'm just insensitive, but isn't that the same as saying a person who wears a Budweiser shirt is trivializing alcoholism??
somethingshiny said:I keep seeing posts that indicate these bracelets trivialize or otherwise demoralize the disease or its victims. Maybe I'm just insensitive, but isn't that the same as saying a person who wears a Budweiser shirt is trivializing alcoholism??
FL Steph said:I think your view on the subject is different if you have direct experience dealing with the loss of someone from this terrible disease. Then the thought of teenage boys giggling over the bracelets and wearing them as a joke marginalizes the pain and suffering your loved one went through. It's not really funny and light hearted when you actually know someone that died from the disease and I would venture to guess that those teens that had lost someone close due to breast cancer sure wouldn't wear these. I can see how a survivor might like them, and wear them as sort of a way to "laugh in the face of cancer" because they beat it, but those that have lost someone have a totally different perspective....
AGBF said:Imdanny said:AGBF said:kenny said:I love mammary glands bracelets won't sell.
So do better. Or, better yet, step aside and let women handle it. We can use our brains and we don't need Hugh Hefner to help us. We are sure to be able to think of a slogan if we have to go the bracelet route for fund rasing. After all, we're the ones who had to hold bake sales for school supplies all these years while the Pentagon got billions from the taxpayers for bombers.
Deb/AGBF
Deb, your comment doesn't make much sense to me. I hope you don't think that all men support the Pentagon getting untold amounts of money to conduct wars. I certainly don't.
When one speaks of the sweeping forces of history, Danny, one looks at the big picture. I am sure that during the Reformation, some individual Catholics did not want to burn Lutherans at the stake, but that does not make it incorrect to state that the Catholics burned the Lutherans at the stake. I was stating that men have always made the wars; women have always made the bake sales, made the quilts, and knit the sweaters. And I stand by that.
Deb/AGBF
Imdanny said:BTW, I think it would have been better if you would have told Kenny you were offended and why. Two wrongs don't make a right and those of us who have known Kenny for years know from his life story that he is anything but an "adolescent."