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I found out the actual price of my diamond...

chamomiletea

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I don't know why I keep digging this up, it doesn't really matter how much it cost. However it's been bothering me because I was worried my husband over spent on my ring.
He bought it in 2011 and I thought he paid $100k (eeeek!!). I thought that because of conversations we had.
Anyhow we have lost the GIA cert but I have done some digging (read in touch with the vendor) and I know more details now. It is actually an E colour stone, it *IS* an IF clarity stone just over 2ct and I didnt write down the numbers but the vendor said it has perfect proportions. He doesn't recommend stones especially IF ones that are not of the most exceptional cut.
The price?! £37,500 which was approx $60k back then.
I know that is more than we would probably have paid today. I am just really really glad it is 40k less than I thought!!! I know I could have got a 3ct for the same price and still had a nice stone but I have super short fingers and a 3ct reaches my knuckle, my husband said because of my hands he was initially going to choose a 1.5ct but pushed the boat out to get a 2ct. He choose an IF because at 1.5 or 2ct the budget he set allowed it.
What do you think of the price, fair? Oh that also included the setting and tax ect.
Thanks :)
Another reason I am asking is we may be considering same vendor for future anniversary presents :D
 
A lot depends on the cut of the diamond, and without the GIA report, it would be impossible for us to compare it to currently priced stones. I will tell you that the IF part costs a lot, and a VS1-VVS2 would have saved a lot of money and the diamond look just as clean. So I would never recommend paying for IF, because I would rather have a second piece of jewelry instead! Anyway, have your jeweler order another GIA report. This is extremely important to have. Then you can post it for us.

Is the vendor a Pricescope vendor? Usually their prices are better than local brick and mortar stores. We'd have to see what the cut really is on the current diamond to know if your vendor did choose one of the best cut stones.
 
Thanks, so I need to ask him for a copy of the GIA report. He said all the IF stones he sells are the very best of GIA excellent cuts but I totally understand that means nothing without the actual numbers.

One of the stones he selected for my husband to look at was a VVS and he made my husband aware that he could save money but my husband wanted the IF and we are happy with that. I love that it makes it very rare, it doesn't bother me that you can't see it... I know in my mind that it is perfect and it makes me feel special to wear it. However I will bear the clarity vs cost in mind for future purchases.

No the vendor is not a pricescope vendor. He's a jeweler for the NFL and came highly recommended. He's not a store, he's a NYC diamond merchant and he told us we were 'not' getting a deal when we bought our diamond as market forces were against us. I know that the same diamond would be cheaper now, that doesn't bother me. It would make me feel happy to buy from him again if I knew the price was fair for back then. Other than that I have no complaints with the stone or the setting.
 
chamomile,

If you do not have a copy of the report, you can take your diamond to a local jeweler (or you could simply buy a jeweler's loupe) and see if there is a GIA lab report # inscribed on the girdle of the diamond.

If so - you can look it up on the GIA Report Database:

https://www.gia.edu/report-check-landing

You should be able to find all of the grading details there if you have the number.
 
chamomiletea|1483751720|4113155 said:
I don't know why I keep digging this up, it doesn't really matter how much it cost. However it's been bothering me because I was worried my husband over spent on my ring.
He bought it in 2011 and I thought he paid $100k (eeeek!!). I thought that because of conversations we had.
Anyhow we have lost the GIA cert but I have done some digging (read in touch with the vendor) and I know more details now. It is actually an E colour stone, it *IS* an IF clarity stone just over 2ct and I didnt write down the numbers but the vendor said it has perfect proportions. He doesn't recommend stones especially IF ones that are not of the most exceptional cut.
The price?! £37,500 which was approx $60k back then.
I know that is more than we would probably have paid today. I am just really really glad it is 40k less than I thought!!! I know I could have got a 3ct for the same price and still had a nice stone but I have super short fingers and a 3ct reaches my knuckle, my husband said because of my hands he was initially going to choose a 1.5ct but pushed the boat out to get a 2ct. He choose an IF because at 1.5 or 2ct the budget he set allowed it.
What do you think of the price, fair? Oh that also included the setting and tax ect.
Thanks :)
Another reason I am asking is we may be considering same vendor for future anniversary presents :D

Yeah, I'd never take a vendors word about what I had for a diamond without a report. You posted a thread talking about how you weren't going to "dig out" the GIA report to prove to "strangers" that your diamond was the best of the best when they asked for the GIA report.

I guess if it were that important to me, I'd have it unset and send it to GIA. Especially if it were a "D color and and IF clarity." Oh wait, now it's an E? You said D IF in your initial post here:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/how-many-people-have-or-buy-d-if-diamonds.224946/#post-4066939#p4066939']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/how-many-people-have-or-buy-d-if-diamonds.224946/#post-4066939#p4066939[/URL]
 
I would just try to forget about it if I were you. Your husband paid what he paid and nothing will change that. If you're looking at future anniversary presents, then price up options from a number of sources at the time you're buying and go from there. You don't say, I don't think, if he bought with an upgrade policy so you'll be a free agent and can make the best balance of economy vs beauty for your next (and future!) presents. What's done is done.
 
Chamomiletea -

Something about your stone obviously worries you - this much is clear. I've read all your posts and, although you always conclude that you don't want a bigger stone, I know in at least one previous thread you speculated as to what you could have had with your budget and were a tad sad your husband paid for an IF when you could have had a very, very clean stone which was considerably larger for the same price. Also - if conversations you had previously led you to think he paid 100k, then 60k is a huge drop. Have YOU actually seen the GIA cert, or is your husband just telling you that he had one and now it's lost?

Frankly, it sounds to me as though you want an upgrade. These boards could point you to any number of vendors with whom you would get an assured good, fair and high quality deal, so 'checking to make sure it's fair to set your mind at ease re future purchases' just doesn't sit convincingly with me. I think you need to be up front with yourself about what you REALLY want, what your concerns are, and where you want to go from there. It would certainly concern me, though, were I in your shoes, to recall my husband telling me he'd spent 100k and then finding he'd spent 60k. To me, the price is irrelevant, but the change in story would worry me. And - seriously - who needs an IF stone? Each to his own and all that - but - IF? Gees louise....

I think you need to unset it and get it to an appraiser and find out what you really have. Then work out what you truly want. You talked a lot about what your friends have and it seems to me you'd actually like something more size competitive. This is not unreasonable, and we often ask men to consider the diamonds / rings their intended's friends have when choosing a ring; few people want a stone smaller than every single one of their friends, then have to go round telling everyone "But it's a D IF' - as though somehow they felt they needed to explain the difference and assure other people of the budget spent. That's why we talk about eye clean all the time; few people want to spend money on quality they can't see. Knowing in your heart that you have an internally flawless stone (which doesn't mean it's completely flawless, by the way) is all well and good, but give me eye clean, good color, and SIZE any day of the week. Best possible cut stats are a given, of course.

I wish you well. Please come back and tell us when you've had your stone regraded by GIA and perhaps we can help you find something that checks more of the boxes important to you. By the way, I OFTEN see on these boards men go for 'best possible color/clarity' while women prefer size. I think this is because men don't have to wear it, so the finger to size aesthetic isn't their concern. WE wear them, though, so the way it looks on our finger is primarily our interest. But for men it's much more often all about "I got her the best possible quality". The ideal point where quality meets size is a frequent discussion on these boards.

Good luck!
 
I had a 2.43 ct (8.7 mm) round, then upgraded to a 3.33 ct (9.8 mm) round... I wear a size 4.75 and do have somewhat short fingers.

The difference is noticeable, of course, but I'm quite certain a 3 ct round stone would not go up to your knuckle... regardless of how short your fingers are. Maybe you were just being funny/dramatic about that, since this is the photo you posted of your 2ct. Your hands are lovely, but your fingers aren't short by any stretch of the imagination. :))

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