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I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescence?

evansjm1

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Which is really better? I realize that the market commands more $ for the neg fluorescence stone but I'm very curious about the strong blue yet I've never seen one in person. I like that it could cancel out any "yellowish" tint but I'm worried I wouldn't like it in the long run. What are everyone's thoughts here?

The diamonds being considered...

Strong Blue Fluorescence - http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...2.113-i-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104061006027

No Fluorescence - http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2787741.htm

Appreciate everyone's thoughts!
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

I have an I with SBF and I love it. Admittedly I'm not very color sensitive, but I do believe it helps balance out any potential yellow.
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

If it were me, the BGD SBF in a heartbeat! Same price, similar specs but the BGD wins as a VS1 as a bonus. I'd go for it! Let us know what you decide on
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

Definitely the SBF!!! I so wish my diamond had fluorescence. Aside from the cool factor of having a diamond that glows under UV light, you have the benefit of helping it appear whiter, which is fantastic in this color range. And since it's a BGD signature, they've inspected it to make sure there are no ill effects (which would be extremely rare anyway).
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

Thanks all! I already put a deposit on the WF one but I'm so intrigued with the BGB that I'm thinking of switching :naughty: Is there anything negative from anyone who has SBF? Seems like all positives? Oh, I'm so confused! :-)
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

I have zero regrets about my G color stone with SBF and think it would be desirable in I and lower colors.
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

i would WANT at least medium blue fluor in H and lower color diamonds. I have 2 medium blue fluors and I never see the blue, perhaps cos it's just enough to cancel out the yellow without appearing blue? I would hesitate going to very strong. Between none and strong for an I, I'd go for the strong blue for sure (provided that it's not hazy nor milky).
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

As for me, It has to be I VS2.

Firstly the clarity is better, and in bigger size like this this means a lot. Moreover since color of both is same, so clarity helps in deciding further it seems cheaper than I SI1.
Moreover , from I to N colour medium to strong fluorescence helps in making yellow tinge less visible.

So its I VS2.
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

Since you already put a deposit on the WF stone, just take a look at it first and then you can assure yourself on what you purchased. It may be an "I" bordering "H" color, ask them! The "I-VS2" with the fluro is very tempting though.. such a tough decision!
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

I'm thinking that I do want to switch. And if the blue isn't what I like when I get it, I can always return it to Brian Gavin within the first 15 days. :-) Looks like I'm joining the fluor club! Never actually thought about this before, I think I need to buy a blacklight too :appl:

One more question for everyone...

I assume you would definitely stick with the "I" over this "J", correct? The J is quite a bit less $, a hair smaller, and only medium blue fluor... http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...2.045-j-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104061006028

Thanks again! You are all SO helpful :-)
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

Oh, and I assume the .10-.12mm size difference between the non-fluor I and the SBF I would not be noticeable at all, correct? That the SBF / clarity benefits outweigh the slight size difference?

Thanks again!
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

You might could tell the size difference when they are next to each other, but not on two different hands or anything like that. I would personally not go below I color in a round brilliant.
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

Tough decision! It would be great if you can see the WF "I-SI1" stone since its a larger stone and the BGD blue beauty..for the money and the MedFlouro I like that J-VS2!! :naughty:
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

The I VS with SBF...those brian gavin blues are awesome! So much personality...go for it (IMO) The J will probably face up very white too but I would get the I color if it fits your budget.
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

Ok, all of you experts....here's a curveball :twirl:

WF just reduced prices and now the larger stones are less than the BG Blue! What are everyone's thoughts? Stick with the SBF (it will be here tomorrow) or is WF more appealing now (I prefer their upgrade policy)? WF is willing to send the other(s) to an appraiser here to compare them as well. Not sure I want to cough up for all that extra shipping but I would love to be 100% confident in my decision of course :cheeky: Oh this is so hard!!!

Strong Blue Fluorescence - http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...2.113-i-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104061006027

WF I SI1 - http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2787741.htm

WF I VS2 - http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2838119.htm
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

The WF 2.29 I VS2 is considerably larger than the BG Blue 2.11. What was the final price on the BG stone?
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

I know! The WF VS2 is only $23 more than the BG Blue...
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

jancaric|1350439366|3286782 said:
I know! The WF VS2 is only $23 more than the BG Blue...

Wow, then the pendulum shifts back to WF. The 2.29 WF stone is worth a lot more since it is larger and doesn't have fluorescence. Do you want a stone that large? It is a good buy if the prices are correct! (One time we thought they reduced prices broadly but it was an error.)
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

That just it, I'm not sure that I do want a stone that large. I DO on the other hand want the best deal :naughty: I should have stopped looking at WF's site after I already gave the green light on the BGD! I guess I can look at the SBF stone tomorrow and see how I feel about the fluor....still am not really sure about that although I am really curious about the glow.

Also, should I be worried about I color with no fluor in this size if I do switch back to WF? With my current 1.62 ct I, VS1 HOF stone, the slight warmth does not bother me as the cut really hides it. But going up that much in size makes me nervous from a color perspective...

Thanks again!
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

Ah, you have a diamond almost the same size as mine now! I can see why you might be hesitant to jump up to 2.29. Ironically, I just had a diamond sent to me to look at and it was 2.19 cts, and I just couldn't make that much of a jump.

BUT, I just looked at the 2+ ct I VS2 stones and I feel like the prices are messed up. The 2.29 was less than a 2.1 and 2.24. So I wouldn't count on this really being an option until prices are checked.
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

I'm not going to lie, I kind of hope they are! That would make for an easier "mind clean" decision for me :-)

Ok, enough sparklies for me tonight...I'm off to bed. Have a great night!
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

I totally and completely understand! I emailed WF and the answer was that there is a computer problem and prices should be corrected within 24 hours. But anyone interested in buying a particular stone today should call or email them.

Oh, and do let us know how you like the stone with the sbf!
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

Clarification..they will likely honor the posted price until the errors are corrected. So think fast!
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

All,
My intent in coming in to this thread is not to influence a decision by discussing the relative merits of the stones being considered, but rather to clarify the situation regarding our pricing glitch, as it has been mentioned here.

We did in fact experience an 'abberation" due to some programming on our site and with our data feed to pricescope. The fault is on our end (not on pricescope) and it should be corrected soon. It is affecting pricing on nearly all of our in-house diamonds.

The Whiteflash management team has decided to honor posted pricing rather than risk any misunderstandings with our customers. We understand what an important purchase an engagement ring is for our customers and although we have prominent disclaimers on our site regarding pricing errors, we would prefer to absorb the short term consequences to our business than to dissappoint any customers.

So we will honor posted prices now and until 24 hours after the issue is corrected. In the longrun we feel that the goodwill generated for doing the noble thing will come back to us in future business. At least that's the hope :wink2:
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

That's very nice, Texas Leaguer! :appl:
 
Re: I color H&A - strong blue fluorescence or no fluorescenc

Bryan, I think that is incredible, actually! :appl: WhiteFlash certainly goes above and beyond the call!
 
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