I have stumbled at several posts by Haris Chandra selling diamonds:
http://us105609910.trustpass.alibaba.com/product/125687364-103422681/Big_champagne_diamond_ring_5_60_ct_radiant_diamond.html with appraised value of $129,500
Then others
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Big-champagne-diamond-ring-5-60-ct-radiant-diamond-/320998753937?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_Rings&hash=item4abd044691#ht_5227wt_1139 which he replied he would sell for $10,400 as a "special"
and his website Hazrati http://www.hazrati.com/Browse/Product/3354/10/Big-champagne-diamond-ring-560-ct-radiant-diamond-solid-18K-white-gold
or on http://www.tradekey.com/company/H-Chandra-Diamonds-4840919.html and many other sites.
Prior to the purchase we received a certificate and the appraisal from Mr Chandra showing 5.6ct and VS1 quality stone of 4 cts(see attached).
his guy clearly does not care that fraud is not ok. When we ask when we will get what we paid for he said he was not planning to send the items we paid for. Scam artist.
His contact details:
+ 1 877 342 8841
+1 212 764 6167
Instead the ring came with 3.2cts in SI2 and not 5.6ct, far from it. Wholesale value of about $5,000/ When we lodged a dispute with paypal Mr Chamdra offered a $2,000 refund, as a "strategy". His explanation was that his Graduate gemmologist is "in competition with EGL, GIA or any other certification lab" so 3.2ct in SI2 is actually noit much different to VS1 in 5.6ct. He wrote:
Then when we asked to take his crap back he said he wanted it to be returned to him same day regardless that we are in Australia and it is 1am at night on Friday.
His response was:
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: John <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: you sent a wrong item
Thanks for writing to us. You can send the ring back to us within 5 days from the day you got it in original condition and we would process the full refund. If you want to keep it we can forego our profit of $1400 by sending as discount to you.
RMA# 1e/12
Best Regards
John
+ 1 877 342 8841
+1 212 764 6167
**************
When we wrote that we want the item we paid for, he replied:
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:00 AM, John <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear customer
When you made the payment you were aware that if a customer is not happy with the product for any reasons whatsoever they can return the item in original condition to us. We have to refund the money to the customer in full when we get the ring back via a trackable method with signatures required from us. Since you have already made the complaint to the paypal about this item and they have deducted your money from our account. Now we request you to send back the ring in original condition via a trackable method with signatures required from us. When we get the ring back in our hands we will tell the paypal that we have got the ring back and they will give back the money to you with shipping charges paid by you. Kindly send us a copy of the reciept of shipping charges spent by you. Since your 5 days period will be over today. You may kindly send back to us the ring by oct. 31st, 2012 positively. In so far as our product is concerned its the best we have sent to you. In the appraisers differ from each other. Since they are in competition they would never tell the truth. Please send back this ring immediately. If you want to keep the ring I can give you a discount of $2000 as you are my most valuable customer. The policy of my company is to make my customers happy.
Best Regards
Harish Chandra
President
+ 1 877 342 8841
+1 212 764 6167
***************
When we wrote we want the item that we paid for, he repsonds:
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:40 AM, John <[email protected]> wrote:
Fedex A/c# 363548962
Our terms are being stated hereunder again:
The only guarantee or liability of the sale is refund of full money after the goods have been mailed insured in original condition within a period of 5 days from the date of receipt of goods. The reasons whatsoever they may be. Customer further agrees that a chargeback, claim, etc. can only be filed after the item has been received by us in original condition. Customer agrees to ship the item in original condition, Insured via a trackable method and with direct signature requirement. Customer agrees to wait up to 7 business days for proper processing of refund from delivery of returned item to us before filing any chargeback, claim, etc. This will be considered as a chargeback/claims waiver per terms stated here. No claims/chargeback whatsoever or for whatsoever reason will be valid after this period is over.
John Chandra
+ 1 877 342 8841
+1 212 764 6167
*****************
When I repeatedly asked when I will receive the item actually paid for, he keeps writing nonsense in his replies:
----- Forwarded message ----------
From: John <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: ring
Dear Customer
Please ensure that we get the ring back in original condition so that your money could be refunded back to you. We have already given you the fedex a/c number. Please ensure that we get the ring back in original condition without fail. In so far as the other ring is concerned when we get it back from you we will send you the new ring at the earliest. The condition of the 5 days return policy is mentioned in the invoice which you accepted and thus paid thru paypal. Please send the ring immediately in original condition and ensure that it is received by us. The money can only be given when we get the ring back in original condition. It is in every business the refund is only made when the supplier gets his product back in original condition. It can not be that a customer get the money back as well as keeps the merchandise with him then it will be construed as a fraud.
Best Regards
Harish Chandra
President
+ 1 877 342 8841
+1 212 764 6167
************
So John and Harish is the same guy. And the guy who does NOT ant to give me the item actually paid for. Is this a joke?? Kust reported him to payPal and to the merchant, on Monday will report him to the Police Cybercrime and eBay.
http://us105609910.trustpass.alibaba.com/product/125687364-103422681/Big_champagne_diamond_ring_5_60_ct_radiant_diamond.html with appraised value of $129,500
Then others
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Big-champagne-diamond-ring-5-60-ct-radiant-diamond-/320998753937?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_Rings&hash=item4abd044691#ht_5227wt_1139 which he replied he would sell for $10,400 as a "special"
and his website Hazrati http://www.hazrati.com/Browse/Product/3354/10/Big-champagne-diamond-ring-560-ct-radiant-diamond-solid-18K-white-gold
or on http://www.tradekey.com/company/H-Chandra-Diamonds-4840919.html and many other sites.
Prior to the purchase we received a certificate and the appraisal from Mr Chandra showing 5.6ct and VS1 quality stone of 4 cts(see attached).
his guy clearly does not care that fraud is not ok. When we ask when we will get what we paid for he said he was not planning to send the items we paid for. Scam artist.
His contact details:
+ 1 877 342 8841
+1 212 764 6167
Instead the ring came with 3.2cts in SI2 and not 5.6ct, far from it. Wholesale value of about $5,000/ When we lodged a dispute with paypal Mr Chamdra offered a $2,000 refund, as a "strategy". His explanation was that his Graduate gemmologist is "in competition with EGL, GIA or any other certification lab" so 3.2ct in SI2 is actually noit much different to VS1 in 5.6ct. He wrote:
Then when we asked to take his crap back he said he wanted it to be returned to him same day regardless that we are in Australia and it is 1am at night on Friday.
His response was:
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: John <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: you sent a wrong item
Thanks for writing to us. You can send the ring back to us within 5 days from the day you got it in original condition and we would process the full refund. If you want to keep it we can forego our profit of $1400 by sending as discount to you.
RMA# 1e/12
Best Regards
John
+ 1 877 342 8841
+1 212 764 6167
**************
When we wrote that we want the item we paid for, he replied:
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:00 AM, John <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear customer
When you made the payment you were aware that if a customer is not happy with the product for any reasons whatsoever they can return the item in original condition to us. We have to refund the money to the customer in full when we get the ring back via a trackable method with signatures required from us. Since you have already made the complaint to the paypal about this item and they have deducted your money from our account. Now we request you to send back the ring in original condition via a trackable method with signatures required from us. When we get the ring back in our hands we will tell the paypal that we have got the ring back and they will give back the money to you with shipping charges paid by you. Kindly send us a copy of the reciept of shipping charges spent by you. Since your 5 days period will be over today. You may kindly send back to us the ring by oct. 31st, 2012 positively. In so far as our product is concerned its the best we have sent to you. In the appraisers differ from each other. Since they are in competition they would never tell the truth. Please send back this ring immediately. If you want to keep the ring I can give you a discount of $2000 as you are my most valuable customer. The policy of my company is to make my customers happy.
Best Regards
Harish Chandra
President
+ 1 877 342 8841
+1 212 764 6167
***************
When we wrote we want the item that we paid for, he repsonds:
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:40 AM, John <[email protected]> wrote:
Fedex A/c# 363548962
Our terms are being stated hereunder again:
The only guarantee or liability of the sale is refund of full money after the goods have been mailed insured in original condition within a period of 5 days from the date of receipt of goods. The reasons whatsoever they may be. Customer further agrees that a chargeback, claim, etc. can only be filed after the item has been received by us in original condition. Customer agrees to ship the item in original condition, Insured via a trackable method and with direct signature requirement. Customer agrees to wait up to 7 business days for proper processing of refund from delivery of returned item to us before filing any chargeback, claim, etc. This will be considered as a chargeback/claims waiver per terms stated here. No claims/chargeback whatsoever or for whatsoever reason will be valid after this period is over.
John Chandra
+ 1 877 342 8841
+1 212 764 6167
*****************
When I repeatedly asked when I will receive the item actually paid for, he keeps writing nonsense in his replies:
----- Forwarded message ----------
From: John <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: ring
Dear Customer
Please ensure that we get the ring back in original condition so that your money could be refunded back to you. We have already given you the fedex a/c number. Please ensure that we get the ring back in original condition without fail. In so far as the other ring is concerned when we get it back from you we will send you the new ring at the earliest. The condition of the 5 days return policy is mentioned in the invoice which you accepted and thus paid thru paypal. Please send the ring immediately in original condition and ensure that it is received by us. The money can only be given when we get the ring back in original condition. It is in every business the refund is only made when the supplier gets his product back in original condition. It can not be that a customer get the money back as well as keeps the merchandise with him then it will be construed as a fraud.
Best Regards
Harish Chandra
President
+ 1 877 342 8841
+1 212 764 6167
************
So John and Harish is the same guy. And the guy who does NOT ant to give me the item actually paid for. Is this a joke?? Kust reported him to payPal and to the merchant, on Monday will report him to the Police Cybercrime and eBay.
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