How do you think about the Pavilion view of this VS2? Is is acceptable?

[phocean]

I just got my 1CT VS2 (AGS) stone mounted on a graceful setting. It's so sparkle and beautiful and I love it!

However, when I viewed this stone from the Pavilion, a white inclusion can be seen fairly easily under various light condition with naked eyes. Pictures are attached and and comments are appreciated.

pic from one side:

 

[phocean]

2nd pic

 

[stone-cold11]

Can you circle what you are seeing?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/28/2010 9:39:15 AM
Author:phocean
I just got my 1CT VS2 (AGS) stone mounted on a graceful setting. It''s so sparkle and beautiful and I love it!

However, when I viewed this stone from the Pavilion, a white inclusion can be seen fairly easily under various light condition with naked eyes. Pictures are attached and and comments are appreciated.

pic from one side:

I think I can see what you mean, the little white area in the centre of the stone? It could be an inclusion even in VS , have you just bought the ring?

 

[phocean]

Thanks! Update pictures uploaded.

 

[Lorelei]

Is the area circled in red what you are seeing?

lol! I see it is the same area, our posts crossed!

It looks like an inclusion but I can't be sure, as I say even with VS you might see something from the side, does it bother you?

 

[phocean]

Date: 4/28/2010 9:56:01 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/28/2010 9:39:15 AM

Author:phocean

I just got my 1CT VS2 (AGS) stone mounted on a graceful setting. It''s so sparkle and beautiful and I love it!


However, when I viewed this stone from the Pavilion, a white inclusion can be seen fairly easily under various light condition with naked eyes. Pictures are attached and and comments are appreciated.


pic from one side:

I think I can see what you mean, the little white area in the centre of the stone? It could be an inclusion even in VS , have you just bought the ring?

Yes, I just bought the ring. I am not sure whether it is worth going to the exchange hassle with the vendor. Is it typical? I personally saw some VS stones in some B&M stores but did not see any like this. But maybe that is because that I did not have enough time or proper light conditions.

 

[WinkHPD]

Date: 4/28/2010 9:39:15 AM
Author:phocean
I just got my 1CT VS2 (AGS) stone mounted on a graceful setting. It''s so sparkle and beautiful and I love it!

However, when I viewed this stone from the Pavilion, a white inclusion can be seen fairly easily under various light condition with naked eyes. Pictures are attached and and comments are appreciated.

pic from one side:

Please do not go from loving your stone to not loving it because if you hold your stone and look at it from the side you can see a small whitish inclusion.

Diamonds are graded from the top only and what is visible from the bottom or side is a non issue gemologically. I know there are clients to whom it is an issue, but it does not affect the beauty of your stone as it is seen while being worn and it absolutely was properly represented to you at the time of sale.

You did not say what the AGS cut grade was, but it sounds like it is a beautiful diamond from the top, which is where it is graded from.

Wink

 

[stone-cold11]

it is possible to see inclusion from the side for a VS2.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/28/2010 10:05:35 AM
Author: phocean

Date: 4/28/2010 9:56:01 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/28/2010 9:39:15 AM

Author:phocean

I just got my 1CT VS2 (AGS) stone mounted on a graceful setting. It''s so sparkle and beautiful and I love it!


However, when I viewed this stone from the Pavilion, a white inclusion can be seen fairly easily under various light condition with naked eyes. Pictures are attached and and comments are appreciated.


pic from one side:

I think I can see what you mean, the little white area in the centre of the stone? It could be an inclusion even in VS , have you just bought the ring?

Yes, I just bought the ring. I am not sure whether it is worth going to the exchange hassle with the vendor. Is it typical? I personally saw some VS stones in some B&M stores but did not see any like this. But maybe that is because that I did not have enough time or proper light conditions.

If you love the ring thats fine, as Wink says don''t let a small white inclusion stop you from loving your stone. It isn''t uncommon to see something from the side in VS, also some inclusions can pop out in some lights more than others. What to do is up to you.....would the inclusion bother me? No, I would view it as a birthmark as I rather like a discreet inclusion I can use to identify my stone. But what I would do or feel isn''t important, its up to you. If you feel it bothers you then change it, if not then view it as a handy indentifier you can use if you need to drop your stone off for work etc which makes your diamond uniquely yours.

 

[phocean]

Date: 4/28/2010 10:05:35 AM
Author: phocean

Date: 4/28/2010 9:56:01 AM

Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/28/2010 9:39:15 AM


Author:phocean


I just got my 1CT VS2 (AGS) stone mounted on a graceful setting. It''s so sparkle and beautiful and I love it!



However, when I viewed this stone from the Pavilion, a white inclusion can be seen fairly easily under various light condition with naked eyes. Pictures are attached and and comments are appreciated.



pic from one side:

I think I can see what you mean, the little white area in the centre of the stone? It could be an inclusion even in VS , have you just bought the ring?

Yes, I just bought the ring. I am not sure whether it is worth going to the exchange hassle with the vendor. Is it typical? I personally saw some VS stones in some B&M stores but did not see any like this. But maybe that is because that I did not have enough time or proper light conditions.

I can live with that At least the vendor has a very nice upgrade policy. I just want to make sure I paid for what I should get. If a VS2 should not have such a inclusion or it bothers my girlfriend a lot, I will definitely do something. Otherwise I think it''s fine.

 

[phocean]

Date: 4/28/2010 10:06:47 AM
Author: Wink

Date: 4/28/2010 9:39:15 AM

Author:phocean

I just got my 1CT VS2 (AGS) stone mounted on a graceful setting. It''s so sparkle and beautiful and I love it!


However, when I viewed this stone from the Pavilion, a white inclusion can be seen fairly easily under various light condition with naked eyes. Pictures are attached and and comments are appreciated.


pic from one side:

Please do not go from loving your stone to not loving it because if you hold your stone and look at it from the side you can see a small whitish inclusion.


Diamonds are graded from the top only and what is visible from the bottom or side is a non issue gemologically. I know there are clients to whom it is an issue, but it does not affect the beauty of your stone as it is seen while being worn and it absolutely was properly represented to you at the time of sale.


You did not say what the AGS cut grade was, but it sounds like it is a beautiful diamond from the top, which is where it is graded from.


Wink

Thanks for your interpretation about the diamond clarity grading. Can I understand like this: two stones with the same grade, weights and beauty will have similar value regardless the inclusions from the side view? BTW, It is an AGS ideal 0/0/0 and it is really beautiful.

 

[oldminer]

In a round, near colorless diamond color is graded from the side view not the top.

CLARITY is graded at any angle which allows finding inclusions. Inclusions which can be seen ONLY in the pavilion are plotted there.
Inclusions which break the surface of the pavilion and are visible from the pavilion and crown are ploted in both drawings.
Inclusions visible only from the top and closed inclusions visible in the pavilion AND crown are ONLY plotted in the crown drawing.

What you are seeing may be a side view of an inclusion or simply some sort of reflection. The clarity plots of crown or pavilion views do not have a side view drawn and it is nigh impossible to know what that visible thingy is in the view you photographed. I can see it for sure, but it could be nothing but light playing with our eyes.

Those are the RULES of clarity plotting. I'm not offering any opinion as to the logic of them, but only stating the facts.

 

[phocean]

Date: 4/28/2010 2:05:58 PM
Author: oldminer
In a round, near colorless diamond color is graded from the side view not the top.


CLARITY is graded at any angle which allows finding inclusions. Inclusions which can be seen ONLY in the pavilion are plotted there.

Inclusions which break the surface of the pavilion and are visible from the pavilion and crown are ploted in both drawings.

Inclusions visible only from the top and closed inclusions visible in the pavilion AND crown are ONLY plotted in the crown drawing.


What you are seeing may be a side view of an inclusion or simply some sort of reflection. The clarity plots of crown or pavilion views do not have a side view drawn and it is nigh impossible to know what that visible thingy is in the view you photographed. I can see it for sure, but it could be nothing but light playing with our eyes.


Those are the RULES of clarity plotting. I'm not offering any opinion as to the logic of them, but only stating the facts.

Thanks for the details on the charity plot. Only the clarity crown view plot of the AGS report has some inclusions under the table. No marks are on the pavilion plot.

So if what I see is actually an inclusion, is the size of the inclusion right for the VS2 clarity? From what I viewed, it is not small and easy to capture.

BTW, what does it mean by closed inclusions?

 

[Michael_E]

That''s not an inclusion, it''s way too rectangular to be an inclusion and even though stones are graded from the top, an inclusion that size would be on the plot diagram. Notice how similar it is in angularity and tilt to the brighter reflection below it. This view is further supported by looking at your second picture where the reflection is partially shaded, just as reflections are when the stone is turned. If you''ve got a loupe and better lighting you could tell immediately if there is an inclusion there. I''d bet my socks that it just a reflection, (safe bet in more ways than one).