How can I be sure the band will sit flush?

[puravida]

If I''m picking an e-ring setting on line, how can I be sure to pick a setting that will allow the w-band I pick to sit flush with the e-ring. (I''m aiming for a solataire with possible 1/2 pave band on e-ring). I don''t like the look of the rings not lying against eachother and also don''t like the look of a w-band that has to be customised to fit around the e-ring (i.e. looks a funny shape when worn on its own).

How can I tell from the online photos of the settings which ones will allow the e-ring and w-band to be worn nice and flush together? I''m currently fancying a simple four prong setting for the centre stone but I''ve seen so many ways that this is offered that I don''t know which ones are made such to allow the w-band to lie against it?

Help!

Thanks.

 

[mercoledi]

The only way to know for sure is to ask the vendor. Signed Pieces has a line that''s made to be flush fit. Otherwise, it can vary based on the angle of the prongs and the size of your stone. What vendors are you considering?

 

[kittybean]

I have noticed that six-prong solitaires make it more difficult for a band to sit flush with them. Because of the north-south prongs, that prong often angles directly into the area where the wedding band should sit. A four-prong setting that sits a little higher will allow for an easier flush-fit. I found that my ring (see my avatar <--)sits flush with pretty much any band I've tried, provided the band doesn't have a very high profile (some channel set bands were too thick to sit flush), and my stone is on the larger side.

I also have a basket-style setting for my sapphire solitaire, and nothing would ever fit flush with it because of the basket and its extremely low setting.

If you tell us the size and style of the stones and rings you like, someone can probably give you a more precise opinion.

 

[honey22]

WF have some flushfit solitaire settings. You will need to have a cathedral style solitaire for it to sit flush. You can always have hem soldered together so they won''t move about, but I personally prefer the idea of being able to wear just a wband alone at times.

None of the Tiff style settings will set flush, but I don''t mind the tinsy gap.

 

[puravida]

In terms of vendors, I''m really not sure yet. I love a lot of the stuff offered by Signed Pieces, WhiteFlash, James Allen....Love some of the Vatche, Facets and Michael B settings. I want something with prongs to hold the diamond high enough so not as to interfere with the w-band, but still not so super high that it would get caught on lots of stuff.

Also, I''d like plain prongs. I''m not really a fan of having the "basket" look (hope I''m using the right terminology). Rather I like the Tiffany-style six prong setting rings. However I find that the 6 prongs tend to make a round diamond look more choppy. I''m leaning more towards a simple 4 prong setting, but understand there would be security with 6 prongs. Also I just want the prings to rise fomr the band and not have a basket. Well, so far I haven''t found a basket that I''m crazy about.


Suggestions?

I contacted Michael B. yesterday and they have just established a vendor in my area (in Ontario) which is exciting cause I can go see the rings in person. However, the Michael B prices are a bit out of range for me. But still can''t wait to try them on!!!

kittbean: thanks, your info really helps.

Not sure about the size yet. Before I discovered this website I really didn''t have a lot of helpful info to help me find and price out a diamond. So pre-PS I was thinking of a 1 ct.-ish RB stone that was VS1-VS2. But now I''ve learned that if the cut is really good I dont'' necessarily have to pay for a stone with such clarity. I''m learning that ppl are able to find SI1 stones with really great cuts, (G-I colours) in ct. sizes that are bigger than I was originally considering, for CHEAPER than I thought I had to pay to get a good looking stone. So excited about learning about the importance of superb cut!!!!
So, I''m now leaning towards a RB that is 1-1.5 ct-ish. I still have to collate all the notes I''ve taken from the PS site to make sense of what exactly I need to look for to ensure a really good cut. Can''t wait to start the hunt!

 

[Lynn B]

You have gotten some great advice and good suggestions. And congrats on breaking the Mental Barrier

and considering lower color/clarity stones (but superbly cut) to get the most *bang for your buck*! That''s my thinking, too! And because of it, I have a killer AGS-0 2.36 (J/SI2) that is so beautiful, white, and eyeclean that somedays I still can''t believe it''s mine!

If you look closely at each setting you are considering, it will eventually become easy for you to tell if a w-ring will sit flush. Rings with the "do-nut" under the head generally won''t, unless the do-nut is smaller than the widest part of the e-ring shank.

However... with all respect to Honey; it''s actually not necessary to have a cathedral shank to have a solitaire sit flush. But cathedral shanks are gorgeous, so it may be your choice anyway.

Date: 11/5/2008 5:28:52 PM
Author: honey22
WF have some flushfit solitaire settings. You will need to have a cathedral style solitaire for it to sit flush. You can always have hem soldered together so they won''t move about, but I personally prefer the idea of being able to wear just a wband alone at times.
None of the Tiff style settings will set flush, but I don''t mind the tinsy gap.
My ring is not a cathedral shank... it''s a custom setting from WF, fishtail pave... (no cathedral shoulders) and it sits flush with my e-ring.

I do absolutely agree with Honey, though, in that I don''t mind a teeny gap between rings, either. My next setting

will definitely have that. I think it''s sexy!!!

Lynn

 

[Allison D.]

One way to be sure they''ll sit flush is to order a set that''s specific selling point is "they fit flush", i.e. Precision Set, etc.

Another way is to select a 4-prong that has a slightly wider shank. This helps to offset the way the edge of the ring comes out and still gives room for the prongs.

Another is to go with a "peg head" style ring where the head will sit on top of the band a bit instead of being integrated into the band, thereby allowing the w-ring to sit flush.

 

[Lynn B]

Hey, Alj, what IS that stuff in your avatar???!!

I cannot make it out!!!

Looks to me like a treasure chest of goodies or something?!
Wah! Personally, I miss that big, honkin ACA!!!

 

[honey22]

Date: 11/5/2008 6:02:15 PM
Author: Lynn B

You have gotten some great advice and good suggestions. And congrats on breaking the Mental Barrier

and considering lower color/clarity stones (but superbly cut) to get the most *bang for your buck*! That''s my thinking, too! And because of it, I have a killer AGS-0 2.36 (J/SI2) that is so beautiful, white, and eyeclean that somedays I still can''t believe it''s mine!

If you look closely at each setting you are considering, it will eventually become easy for you to tell if a w-ring will sit flush. Rings with the ''do-nut'' under the head generally won''t, unless the do-nut is smaller than the widest part of the e-ring shank.

However... with all respect to Honey; it''s actually not necessary to have a cathedral shank to have a solitaire sit flush. But cathedral shanks are gorgeous, so it may be your choice anyway.

Date: 11/5/2008 5:28:52 PM

Author: honey22

WF have some flushfit solitaire settings. You will need to have a cathedral style solitaire for it to sit flush. You can always have hem soldered together so they won''t move about, but I personally prefer the idea of being able to wear just a wband alone at times.

None of the Tiff style settings will set flush, but I don''t mind the tinsy gap.

My ring is not a cathedral shank... it''s a custom setting from WF, fishtail pave... (no cathedral shoulders) and it sits flush with my e-ring.

I do absolutely agree with Honey, though, in that I don''t mind a teeny gap between rings, either. My next setting

will definitely have that. I think it''s sexy!!!

Lynn

I totally agree about the gap being sexy!

But, only a PSer would understand that

 

[luvmyhalo]

I''m also a big fan of a gap. It lets each ring have its own identity.

Here''s a thread from a while back that talks about heads that allow for a wedding band to sit flush. It''s got some great pictures!

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/ok-since-were-exploring-all-options-lets-talk-heads-please.44827/

 

[puravida]

Thanks for all the advice!

Gosh, Lynn, your rings are just gorgeous. The more and more I look at your fishtail bands the more I like them, where originally I wasn''t such a fan. I''ll have to go out and try some fish tail styles on again. And the idea of the stones being more secure and protected than in a pave style is attractive as well.

Lynn, is there scalloping on all four sides of the ring between the prongs, or just two sides?

Mara and Slammie''s rings are mentioned a lot and I know I came across Mara''s rings but can''t locate either Mara''s or Slammie''s right now. I must be doing it wrong.....

 

[Lynn B]

Date: 11/5/2008 8:58:55 PM
Author: puravida
Thanks for all the advice!


Gosh, Lynn, your rings are just gorgeous. The more and more I look at your fishtail bands the more I like them, where originally I wasn''t such a fan. I''ll have to go out and try some fish tail styles on again. And the idea of the stones being more secure and protected than in a pave style is attractive as well.


Lynn, is there scalloping on all four sides of the ring between the prongs, or just two sides?


Mara and Slammie''s rings are mentioned a lot and I know I came across Mara''s rings but can''t locate either Mara''s or Slammie''s right now. I must be doing it wrong.....

Thank you for the compliments! I love my rings because I have the classic beauty of a solitaire with just a little added *bling* of the pave.

(BTW, the head of my e-ring has the scallop design on all 4 sides.)

 

[Lynn B]

Oh, I found Slammie''s thread for you:

Slammie''s Rings

 

[puravida]

Thanks Lynn for finding that. I see the settings are very different between yours and Slammie''s rings. I must say I prefer yours because its sleeker and simpler.

Could you tell me if your bands are the same/similar? To me, the both look like "fish tail" styles but I could be wrong.

Is the setting of the stones in your bands called prong or shared prong? Or simply just fishtail?

Did you get the stone from WF or just the settings custom made from them?

 

[Lynn B]

Date: 11/5/2008 10:59:06 PM
Author: puravida
Thanks Lynn for finding that. I see the settings are very different between yours and Slammie''s rings. I must say I prefer yours because its sleeker and simpler.


Could you tell me if your bands are the same/similar? To me, the both look like ''fish tail'' styles but I could be wrong.


Is the setting of the stones in your bands called prong or shared prong? Or simply just fishtail?


Did you get the stone from WF or just the settings custom made from them?

Hi again!

Yes, my bands are the same... both fishtail pave; about 2mm wide, with melee that are smaller than 2 pointers. And just the settings came from WF, not my center stone.