How bad is a knot on the edge of a 2ct round SI 1?

[Billy Mays]

I don't know if it was one dealer bashing another's stone but now I'm worried that this stone can possibly have structural issues and chip. I read conflicting things on here and on other places so can you guys opine?

The knot is right on the edge (see attached picture).

Thank you.

 

[sakari_8]

Could you please post the image of the diamond or certificate of the diamond which will help us in giving you the right suggestion?

 

[Billy Mays]

Could you please post the image of the diamond or certificate of the diamond which will help us in giving you the right suggestion?

I don't have a "picture". I do have the certificate (the diagram I posted is from the certificate). Otherwise here is the actual certificate:
https://myapps.gia.edu/ReportCheckPortal/getReportData.do?&reportno=2141882584&weight=2.05#

Thank you.

 

[sakari_8]

Without the image of the diamond it would be very difficult to comment, anyways in your case I can only suggest you few things.

1) Ask the Jeweler to get the diamond checked by their experts (gemologist) and update you with the feedback.
2) If they are not ready to provide you the image of the diamond then check their return policy,
I would say purchase the diamond and get it checked by your local gemologist. If they do not recommend the diamond then simply return it.

The most important things to keep in mind with regard to the Return Policy
a) Jeweler should provide you with at least 30day return.
b) Returning the diamond is free or you have to pay the shipping charge?
c) Will they issue 100% refund or cut the shipping cost?

The last possible option that I would suggest is "select the right setting," select such a design through which the inclusions can be easily hidden under the prongs....

 

[Billy Mays]

Interesting that you say that. When I brought up the issue to the guy selling the stone he said we could be extra careful and not put the prong over the inclusion so that if the prong takes a hit, it won't put all the pressure on the knot and chip it if I'm worried about that. It's not the visual i'm worried about as it's eye clean and not on the table anyway, it's the durability.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

In one sense it won't matter since you should have it fully insured. But are you saying this knot cannot be seen with the eye from the side or bottom?

 

[Billy Mays]

diamondseeker - you can't see it. in fact it's a little bit of a pain to find it with the loop and to take the photo.

the other dealer just made me nervous and told me he would never get something like that.

i went in again to look at it - it's small, more visible on the pavilion than the crown. i tried to run my nail over it and couldn't sense anything...

This is the diagram I posted earlier, but much larger: bitly.com/PV1KsA

So insurance would fully cover this stuff or would they say "well the stone had an issue"?

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Any diamond when whacked hard enough can chip, crack, or shatter. You want insurance that will cover the stone for any type of loss or damage. A clarity grade of SI1 usually doesn't mean there are structural problems to worry about. Does this vendor offer an upgrade policy on this diamond? I really prefer VS clarity so I don't have to worry about this kind of thing, but I do understand that some people choose size over clarity.

 

[Rockdiamond]

Hi Billy,
Without a doubt, this is a very competitive, tough business in some ways.
DS hit the nail on the head in the post above: SI1 imperfections in a round diamond can be effectively ruled out as structural risks per se.
BUT- more important here is that it's completely impossible to properly assess this sort of thing without the diamond in ones hand.
Photos will not allow this type of evaluation.
IOW, a dealer trying to plant seeds of doubt is kind of showing a less than honorable hand, unless they've personally inspected that diamond.
And as has been covered- the likelihood of an SI1 grade having these problems is truly negligible.

I am not referring to any particular diamond or seller- just general rules.

 

[Billy Mays]

Any diamond when whacked hard enough can chip, crack, or shatter. You want insurance that will cover the stone for any type of loss or damage. A clarity grade of SI1 usually doesn't mean there are structural problems to worry about. Does this vendor offer an upgrade policy on this diamond? I really prefer VS clarity so I don't have to worry about this kind of thing, but I do understand that some people choose size over clarity.

It is Eternity Diamonds which is a pricescope affiliate. He has a 30 day return policy and told me he had an upgrade policy as well for the price of the stone (although upgrade policies don't seem like a great feature if the stone doubles in value and I only get my original amount back).

Hi Billy,
Without a doubt, this is a very competitive, tough business in some ways.
DS hit the nail on the head in the post above: SI1 imperfections in a round diamond can be effectively ruled out as structural risks per se.
BUT- more important here is that it's completely impossible to properly assess this sort of thing without the diamond in ones hand.
Photos will not allow this type of evaluation.
IOW, a dealer trying to plant seeds of doubt is kind of showing a less than honorable hand, unless they've personally inspected that diamond.
And as has been covered- the likelihood of an SI1 grade having these problems is truly negligible.

I am not referring to any particular diamond or seller- just general rules.

Thank you David. Again. The more I'm on this forum the more I like it and the people on here.