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Hello All,

So I'm posting this because I'm hesitant about the K color. I'm just worried a regular person would be able to tell that it's not white. I understand that Brian Gavin Diamonds are incredible and the cut will make it shine like no other, but I don't want my girl to be able to tell that it's tinted yellow in any way. Talking on the chat, Jaime assured me that it would be white face up.

What do you all think?
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.214-k-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104055121013

With the Black Friday discount, I'm itching to get it but wanted to ask you all on your opinion about K diamonds.

(there's a J in the same size but it's already reserved.. otherwise I would have taken that)

Otherwise, I can opt for a J in the Signature for a little bit higher price, no Flouro, higher clarity, but smaller size.

What would you all do in my position? :ugeek:
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

NeedaRockSoon|1322504732|3070141 said:
Hello All,

So I'm posting this because I'm hesitant about the K color. I'm just worried a regular person would be able to tell that it's not white. I understand that Brian Gavin Diamonds are incredible and the cut will make it shine like no other, but I don't want my girl to be able to tell that it's tinted yellow in any way. Talking on the chat, Jaime assured me that it would be white face up.

What do you all think?
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.214-k-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104055121013

With the Black Friday discount, I'm itching to get it but wanted to ask you all on your opinion about K diamonds.

(there's a J in the same size but it's already reserved.. otherwise I would have taken that)

Otherwise, I can opt for a J in the Signature for a little bit higher price, no Flouro, higher clarity, but smaller size.

What would you all do in my position? :ugeek:
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Well... it's a K. With or without fluor, a K is a K, and in that size it's it's NOT going to look white or colourless to anyone who looks closely unless the viewer has a particularly poor eye for colour. It's also not going to look "yellow" - just off-white/mellow/creamy/warm/... and, honestly, neither is a J. If you want to visually minimize the body colour you might look into warmer/creamier metals - an icy platinum or plated white gold is going to highlight the body colour from side-view.

Fluor has no visible effects outside lighting types with long wave UV component - more on fluorhere
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

You are going to have to go much higher in color than a K or a J if you want even the average person to see no color.

Yes, good cut helps diamonds look more colorless face up . . . but we usually see them not face up.
Usually when we notice our diamond rings we did not flip back our wrists to get on on-axis face up view.
Usually when others happen to notice our diamond we did not just happen to angle our wrists so they only get an on-axis face up view.
Even if you did angle it just right for their viewing pleasure, what are you going to do a moment later? ... or for the rest of the visit? ... carefully keep your diamond pointing at their face?

BTW, a full bezel setting is one way to prevent the worst of the body-color-revealing side views.
On the other hand a tension setting would be the best at revealing body color.

Plus, like Yssie said the blue fluor may make a K look less yellow, but only if you happen to be in light that has a strong enough UV component, like sunlight.
I imagine your lady would like to come indoors sometime.

If you go with a K I'm afraid you are going to have to accept easily-visible body color.
If that is not okay for you then you have to up your budget, or go down in size.
There is a reason colorless diamonds cost more and you can't expect to get more than you paid for.

Please do not compromise on cut.
I think BGD offers superbly-cut diamonds.
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

Hi Need- I can't comment on any specific vendor or stone- but a few general comments:
On cut: Great cut is important- and something to strive for - but there is no one cutter or seller that has something unequaled by others. IOW if someone is saying their diamond is better than anyone else, it's not a fact. it might be as good as the best- but there's no "one" best

Color:
It would be very rare for a "normal" person to casually notice the tint in a well cut K color, set in white metal.
Hold it next to a D and the difference will be clear- but on it's own? No way unless someone was specifically looking- and even then not all the time.
If a person is trained on how to spot the subtle color of a K, maybe...
But I've shown my wife's K color solitaire to many people - no one noticed a tint- and the more knowledgeable consumers were surprised when we told them it was a K.
There can certainly be cases of a K that does show more color based on cut, etc- by all means ask your vendor about that.
For your own sake it's very important to look at a few stones ranging in color. You may actually prefer the warmer white of a K- or you might be able to spot the color

I have a totally different experience than Kenny when it comes to setting stones and how much color they show. Full bezel will increase face up perceived body color in many cases.
A tension setting would indeed allow a better through the side view- but in terms of face up, may show less body color as compared to a bezel.
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

we looked at a BGD "blue" J colored stone as a potential candidate for my e-ring, and while I do NOT consider myself to be color sensitive, it was a bit too warm for my taste. it was gorgeous, don't get me wrong, but it just wasn't as white as I wanted my e-ring to be. BGD had also told me that it faced up white, but I had them send a signature I with the J to the appraiser just to compare, and the I was MUCH whiter. I desperately wanted to love the J, but it was just slightly too tinted for me for an e-ring. Maybe if you were setting it in yellow gold it would be ok...but for me (a totally not color sensitive person - I think I's look great), "I" was the lowest I could go without seeing any warmth when it was on its own.
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

RD I contend that your wife's K is a bit of a different case - I doubt "normal" people have seen 5+ct RBs up close either - especially not 5ct RBs that are actually set and being worn! So when they do *everything* is way, way overshadowed by the sheer size :sun:
(I'm a "normal" person too, btw ;)) )


In contrast, noone has ever thought my stone (J) is higher than a J. Ever. I had an "appraiser" call it an H once, and I just kinda looked at him, and he said he didn't want to make me feel bad :rolleyes: My MIL, who knows absolutely nothing about diamonds, noted offhand that my 0.5 baby Js looked "aged, like old books" in their plated white gold (three-prong) settings when I took them off to clean them. My point - a casual glance isn't going to show anything but sparkle, but if you know that she'll be unhappy if more-than-casual inspections reveal the body colour then it's not the right choice, because it's a distinct possibility, especially w/ something like an Ering that *is* going to be admired up-close.


ETA: This coming from someone who genuinely loves her Js and doesn't consider the colour a sacrifice... what setting are you planning on? The setting makes a huge difference to the way the piece as a whole is perceived IMO - a unique, well-made setting makes for a unique piece, and that overall aesthetic is all people focus on - especially w/ a same 'ol same 'ol RB in it. I suspect Kenny's experience w/ his spectacular step cuts in super simple settings is different from mine, and the stones get all the attention - they're definitely not same 'ol!
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

Yssie- let's re-define "normal" as someone who's never posted on PS 8-)


Seriously, there's a wide range of perceptions. Some people are far better at perceiving slight differences in color- others may have subtle color blindness- or at least less sensitivity.
But if we eliminate people who have spent time on a forum like this- or are otherwise more educated in diamonds- this is what I'm calling "normal people"
Of this group, many won;t be able to notice the color in a J.
Others, of course will- and it might be a bother to them.
For someone shopping, it makes all the sense in the world to have a look at different diamonds to see what their own sensitivity is.
Let's face it- as atp mentioned- if she liked the J better, it would have been a money saver- or she'd have gotten a larger diamond.
For these reasons I don't advise automatically eliminating a J or K color.
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

Rockdiamond|1322512181|3070213 said:
Yssie- let's re-define "normal" as someone who's never posted on PS 8-)


Seriously, there's a wide range of perceptions. Some people are far better at perceiving slight differences in color- others may have subtle color blindness- or at least less sensitivity.
But if we eliminate people who have spent time on a forum like this- or are otherwise more educated in diamonds- this is what I'm calling "normal people"
Of this group, many won;t be able to notice the color in a J.
Others, of course will- and it might be a bother to them.For someone shopping, it makes all the sense in the world to have a look at different diamonds to see what their own sensitivity is.
Let's face it- as atp mentioned- if she liked the J better, it would have been a money saver- or she'd have gotten a larger diamond.
For these reasons I don't advise automatically eliminating a J or K color.
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OP specifically mentioned it as a concern, so I assume that they've gone out and looked at stones and she's discovered that she doesn't like to see body colour.

My MIL didn't know that diamonds came in colours other than white, yellow, and pink. And had no idea that more colourless stones are more rare, and are held in higher regard by the general public, and her observation wasn't meant or taken as a slight. But if I'd been the sort who "settled" for a J, and who would've been upset/angry/hurt by someone noting that it's not colourless, I'd have been - well, upset or angry or hurt. I agree that there are lots of people who won't notice at all, but there are some who will, and all it would take is some.

If my assumption is wrong - I have a lot to say on letting the opinion of the general public determine yours without making an effort to find out what you actually think, but I suppose that's neither here nor there.
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

Lots of good posts here, thank you everyone. ATP's post was what I was looking for, and it helps a lot.

I haven't specifically taken my lady out to view diamonds as I do want to keep it as much of a surprise as I can (getting harder these days...)

However, I don't want the "big moment" to be ruined if she can indeed see some body color or it's not to her liking, which is why I asked if a K would have too much body for a "normal" person (she is indeed the very definition of normal, and will most likely be comparing it to her friends/coworkers :? ) Of course she's not so materialistic to tell me outright that it was a bad choice, but I do want her to be happy and not hide the fact that she hates her E-Ring.

I think I will up the color requirement to an I, as I had initially planned and let go of the 1.2 back down to the original 1.0. I think the size got me excited :lol:
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

I would not do a K for an engagement ring (especially as a surprise). It will look tinted to others. I prefer not going lower than I color, but a J would be okay. There are some stones that are extraordinary for other reasons, such as antique stones or very large stones that I might not mind the color. But I wouldn't do it for a typical e-ring unless she has seen and approved the stone in advance.
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

Define "normal" person.
You can't.

Normal is a number.
51% is normal.
49% is not normal.

Your fiance may fall in the 49%.

People vary.
PS people vary.
Non-PS people vary.

You have to find out what HER color sensitivity, and her tolerance for color verses how colorless knocks down the other specs like size, clarity, budget etc.

I'd buy from a vendor with a good return policy in case she feels the F you bought has too much color for her.
I'm not joking, exaggerating maybe, but not joking.
Some people can see the color in an F so they want an E.
Some people can see the color in an E so they want an D, and they may have never heard of PS.

You just can't say she's normal so she will like what normal people will like.
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

Perhaps I mean to clump her in with the majority who shops at mall stores or specialty engagement stores like Robbins Bros. Typically these people are less educated about diamonds and just want something big and sparkly without caring too much about the details.

I, however, am not one of these people. I care about the numbers, the color, the cut, the certs, the value of the diamond. She just wants something that shines. She may very well like the J or the K and be perfectly happy with that. I may not be ok with the J or K. The reason for the question is that I have never seen a J or a K in person. All of the local shops around here are trash with EGL certs and having online vendors ship diamonds back and forth gets costly, especially when I'm broke! :ugeek:
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

Here is a video doing a comparison of diamond colors done by www.goodoldgold.com

http://www.youtube.com/user/DiamondInfoMan#p/search/5/ziZ1S8ZlZEE

Keep in mind these stones probably don't have florescence in them (he usually says if they do or not) so keep in mind the K will face up a bit whiter than the one in this video but hopefully this will help you decide.

I have personally owned an H, an I and a J (H is the only round one I've owned, the other were ideal cut cushions) and I didn't notice any warmth in any of the stones.

I personally think the K will be fine-it would be fine for most *normal* people. I think that most *normal* rings probably are lower in color/clarity then even the certifications state from a lot of stores (many mall store rings come with certificates that aren't strict about their grading so even if they were told it was one color-it could be another one all together).

Good luck! No matter what you pick she's going to be thrilled. You can't go wrong with a BGD blue! :appl:

PS. I am a PSer and am very picky about my rings. My ring is vintage and I had to find a band to match as best I could. I had my rings soldered together and noticed that the band that I bought (it matches but not 100%) actually didn't have milgrain on it like my e-ring does. Also during the soldering process the rhodium plating I had done on my e-ring (top is White gold and the shank is yellow gold-very common in vintage pieces) and so now my band is white gold with no milgrain and my e-ring is white/yellow gold with milgrain. I have thought about having the milgrain added (and probably would have had I noticed it before) and replate my rings-instead I love how perfectly they match for being not a perfect set. So I'm not going to change them.

The reason I share this with you is because sometimes we spend so much time focusing on what we view as prefect that we don't appreciate it for what it is. My set is beautiful-even though it doesn't match 100% and I love it for that. A K colored stone-while not colorless-when it's well cut and in a beautiful setting is going to be a beautiful stone and make a beautiful ring. It may not be *colorless* by industry standards-but it may be prefect for you guys.

Don't always get caught up in the numbers/color/clarity. Trust your own eyes. Many PSers have a mind clean issue and are willing to pay the extra money to get it. Others don't mind if they can't tell with their own eyes (and you'd be surprised what you can and can't see with them-it varies greatly person to person and in different lighting) and would rather have the size or save the $. You just need to decide what is important to you and your girl.
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

Does your gf own any other diamonds? Where do her friends and coworkers shop? Mall jewelers like most people? HOw about her family?

I owned and wore a BGD K color in that exact size for a year and it was a gorgeous diamond. I promise, never in that entire time did *anyone* ever say anything about its color or anything other that "wowee" when they saw it. I am of the opinion that unless your gf knows about diamonds and diamond color and her family know tooo, she and her friends and family will see a big gorgeous diamond and nothing else.

Now *I* could see the tint, but I know diamonds and am very picky about them. That said, if my choice was a much smaller colorless diamond or this lovely K, I would choose the K. Also, a J and a K are not different enough IMO to bother making the trade. If you want a stone that looks totally white then stick to I or more colorless, perhaps even H.

But again, it depends on your knowledge of diamonds and your gf and her family's knowledge.

Since you are the one who thinks he may be picky, not her, then perhaps order it and see it yourself! If you do not like it, send it back. BUT, I encourage you to get her what SHE wants, not what you want. She wants BIG and SParkly. This checks those boxes ;))
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

As a gal who owns a BDG Blue as an engagement ring, let me chime in. Something to keep note of though is that I am color sensitive. I started out wanting an E/F for my engagement ring. Due to the price increase earlier this year I ended up buying a BDG Blue G color (with medium fluor). To me G is by NO MEANS "yellow" or "tinted" but it's definitely not ICY WHITE. Personally the lowest I would go on an engagement ring is an H. If I really want to go for size then MAYBE an I with strong blue fluor. I think anything below that you will start noticing a tint. Of course this is not to say that people will not like it. There are plenty of people who LOVE "creamy" or "vanilla" colored stones. Color is purely personal preference. With that said, if you want to go "white", then I would not go below an H.

BDG does have beautiflly cut stones though. You can't go wrong with that!
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

NeedaRockSoon|1322516022|3070257 said:
Perhaps I mean to clump her in with the majority who shops at mall stores or specialty engagement stores like Robbins Bros. Typically these people are less educated about diamonds and just want something big and sparkly without caring too much about the details.

I, however, am not one of these people. I care about the numbers, the color, the cut, the certs, the value of the diamond. She just wants something that shines. She may very well like the J or the K and be perfectly happy with that. I may not be ok with the J or K. The reason for the question is that I have never seen a J or a K in person. All of the local shops around here are trash with EGL certs and having online vendors ship diamonds back and forth gets costly, especially when I'm broke! :ugeek:
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But maybe in the future she will get more diamond-educated and will grow to appreciate your superior choice.

Also clearly you are buying this not only for her but for you yourself to feel good about.
Nothing wrong with that.
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

NeedaRockSoon|1322513911|3070236 said:
Lots of good posts here, thank you everyone. ATP's post was what I was looking for, and it helps a lot.

I haven't specifically taken my lady out to view diamonds as I do want to keep it as much of a surprise as I can (getting harder these days...)

However, I don't want the "big moment" to be ruined if she can indeed see some body color or it's not to her liking, which is why I asked if a K would have too much body for a "normal" person (she is indeed the very definition of normal, and will most likely be comparing it to her friends/coworkers :? ) Of course she's not so materialistic to tell me outright that it was a bad choice, but I do want her to be happy and not hide the fact that she hates her E-Ring.

I think I will up the color requirement to an I, as I had initially planned and let go of the 1.2 back down to the original 1.0. I think the size got me excited :lol:
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Did you want a branded stone? If so I think you're going to have to give on something else, I don't see anything in 1ct I SI1

Unbranded 1ct I SI1 $6.1k http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-SI1-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1427193.asp
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

Dreamer_D|1322517205|3070275 said:
Does your gf own any other diamonds? Where do her friends and coworkers shop? Mall jewelers like most people? HOw about her family?

I owned and wore a BGD K color in that exact size for a year and it was a gorgeous diamond. I promise, never in that entire time did *anyone* ever say anything about its color or anything other that "wowee" when they saw it. I am of the opinion that unless your gf knows about diamonds and diamond color and her family know tooo, she and her friends and family will see a big gorgeous diamond and nothing else.

Now *I* could see the tint, but I know diamonds and am very picky about them. That said, if my choice was a much smaller colorless diamond or this lovely K, I would choose the K. Also, a J and a K are not different enough IMO to bother making the trade. If you want a stone that looks totally white then stick to I or more colorless, perhaps even H.

But again, it depends on your knowledge of diamonds and your gf and her family's knowledge.

Since you are the one who thinks he may be picky, not her, then perhaps order it and see it yourself! If you do not like it, send it back. BUT, I encourage you to get her what SHE wants, not what you want. She wants BIG and SParkly. This checks those boxes ;))
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haha, thank you for this post. The other diamonds she owns are only ones given to her by me back when I didn't know anything about diamonds. She has a 0.3 carat round "promise" ring from 5.5 years ago (Bought it at Kay's, Leo Diamond, got sweet talked by the salesman, don't remember the stats and can't find the cert), a pair of diamond studs (0.5 total CW) also from Kay's (4.5 years ago, same deal, don't know the stats, can't find stats, non-leo), and a 0.5 Diamond Pendant that I purchased I think two years ago in a heart shape (same deal, don't know stats, can't find cert, from a local B&M non-chain store). I looked at all of the purchases I've made and can't tell the color on any of them (but they're all small sized..)

Her friends/co-workers almost all got their E-Rings from Robbins Bros (they have a large advertisement/marketing budget for San Diego it seems). She has very small hands (small asian woman) and she's also afraid of having too BIG of a diamond (crazy right?!) because then it would look "fake" since compared to her handsize, it'll look ginormous. I think she wears about a size 4 ring.

The highest I can really go is an I color. Going up to an H is really out of the budget, so I was looking at a BGD "Blue" I 1.0 which is about $6200 vs the BGD "Blue" J or K 1.2 which is about $5500-5800

She mentioned she likes this setting:

http://www.since1910.com/engagement/tacori/tacori-twist-pave-diamond-engagement-ring-2565rd-ps41.aspx

But she also said she hasnt seen it in person, so it may not be the one when it comes down to it.
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

She'll have to settle with a solitaire setting until I can save up more money for a setting.

She's just been bugging me about getting married because January is 6 years for us 8-)
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

I think 1.2ct is very large, especially given what you have told me. I think you can go below 1ct to get a G or H if you want and she would be happy.

We can't make this decision for you, you are going to have to just stop worrying and go for it, whateer "it" is.

BTW if all the rings are from stores like you describe in your social circle, and you bought your diamonds at Kays etc, most likely they are all J-K-L color by AGS/GIA standards ::)
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

I have K colored earrings from BGD and I wouldn't hesitate to get another K from them. I'd get it and see what you think, if it turns out you don't like it - return it.
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

Dreamer_D|1322520642|3070321 said:
I think 1.2ct is very large, especially given what you have told me. I think you can go below 1ct to get a G or H if you want and she would be happy.

We can't make this decision for you, you are going to have to just stop worrying and go for it, whatever "it" is.

BTW if all the rings are from stores like you describe in your social circle, and you bought your diamonds at Kays etc, most likely they are all J-K-L color by AGS/GIA standards ::)
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Ditto. Size 4 finger is tiny and a 1 ct will look substantial.
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

Yes, a 1 ct. is a great size for a size 4 finger! I am really not opposed to a J color with blue fl, though, if you want to go a little larger. G-J is the near-colorless range.

And I will add...she is a very patient woman!!!
 
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diamondseeker2006|1322532922|3070460 said:
Yes, a 1 ct. is a great size for a size 4 finger! I am really not opposed to a J color with blue fl, though, if you want to go a little larger. G-J is the near-colorless range.

And I will add...she is a very patient woman!!!
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Haha, I know... I know. I got accepted into medical school so I will be moving 6 hours away in June, so that was kind of the last straw. I've been meaning to propose for a long time; I'm just old fashioned. I want everything to be perfect and have a very nice ring for her to cherish.

That being said, I've boiled it down to these two:

The K 1.29ct Blue

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.294-k-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104055121012

or

This I 1.0ct Blue

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.006-i-vs2-round-diamond-ags-104052029004

Both are within my price range, and I teased her a little bit with the idea of Rose Gold in the setting. She looked at some pictures and she adores the ones where the majority of the setting is in white gold, but there's a dash of rose near the prongs (either the prongs themselves are rose, or there's a little intricate detail work with some rosegold in it)

http://www.tivolijewelers.com/images/130-458.jpg

She liked that one a lot.

Leaning towards the I, for no real particular reason other than it being an I vs a K (although, 1.29 is enticing....) The only reason for the rush is the black friday sale which ends tonight. I'd like to take advantage since it drops the prices by ~$500.
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

I think we all have a limit, and my personal limit is H color. For others, I will recommend I color when size is of higher importance than color, and also J. But I already said that I think that is the cut off unless someone has specifically seen and chosen a color below the near colorless range. All ideal cut stones are beautiful, but you have to be okay with the tint in stones below I.

Have you seen this? http://www.goodoldgold.com/4Cs/Color/NearColorless/

Because I think it is the best color comparison on the web.

Congrats on being accepted to med school! Just remember that someday for an anniversary you can put this diamond in a pendant and get her a larger diamond ring as a special anniversary gift if you want! I'd just go for the best quality that you can get now and worry about larger diamonds later in life!
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

I would play it safe with the I color between those two. Unless she has told you in no uncertain terms that size is the most important factor for her. In fact, she told you the opposite, so the 1ct I would be my choice!
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

Thank you ladies.

I pulled the trigger at the last moment for the I. Off to the bank tomorrow for the Wire!
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

I think the I was a great idea! Can't wait to see pictures!
 
Re: Hesitant on BGD Blue K Color Round Brilliant.. Convince

atp223|1322837714|3072919 said:
I think the I was a great idea! Can't wait to see pictures!
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Ditto! I was just checking in to see if you had decided!
 
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