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Help with Tacori setting and 1ct diamond - Since1910/WF

CalgaryJay

CalgaryJay

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Hey guys,

I've spent the last couple weeks researching rings, diamonds and everything in between and I'm still having some trouble deciding what I should do to get this damn ring together.

I am really wanting to pick up the Tacori 2578RD setting and would really like to get a 1ct diamond (Ideal Cut or better, I+ Color, Ideal Symmetry,Polish, etc and SI2+ Clarity) and would like to keep it $7-8k total. I wouldn't mind having a diamond with Flourescence as I like the effect but this is for the gf so I could go either way with it.

Now I've seen that Since1910 carries the Tacori setting and has some decent pricing on diamonds but they don't have any actual pictures of the diamonds so I have no idea if they're eye clean and no idea what their IdealScope scan looks like. That kinda worries me a little. I really like looking at the diamonds on WhiteFlash as they have everything listed so you know exactly what you're getting but you also pay a bit more for the diamonds then.

I would prefer to get everything from 1 place to save the hassle of having stuff shipped around, especially since I'm in Canada. Wwhat should I do?

Does anyone have any suggestions for a good diamond that would keep me in the $7-8k max? The setting is roughly $3800. That leaves me under $5k for the diamond.

I've found a few on since1910 but not very many are in the 0-2 range with the HCA Tool. I did find one diamond on WhiteFlash that I really liked but it's a little more money than I had liked to spend.

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2805421.htm

I know this is a lot of info, I'm sorry, I'm sure people are posting this stuff all the time, it must get annoying. Anyways, I really appreciate all the help that PS has given me so far and thank you in advance to anyone that helps me with this engagement ring!

Jason
 
I don't want to get caught up in the mentality that I need to have everything about the diamond perfect(Even though everyone does) but I want a diamond that will really shine, something that will catch the eye. I see diamonds online that don't seem to have that "Hearts and Arrows" type look to them and automatically start to shy away from them, am I being stupid for that? Should I not worry about that as much with my budget?

Jason
 
Your best bet is to look at Good Old Gold because they carry Tacori and also have ideal cut diamonds. They are probably closed today due to the snow storm, but their site should be working and there are pictures and other images of the stones online. I do recommend buying the diamond and setting from the same place whenever possible.

Here is their current round brilliant diamond inventory, but they can pick up stones that meet your specs in NYC anytime if they don't have what you want in stock.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamondResults.php?shape=1&optSym=3&inHouse=1&resultsColumns=402669647
 
its going to be difficult to stay under 5k for a 1ct diamond in your color
now i really dont know if these are good inclusions or not, or even if its eye clean. but here is a good scoring I SI2 that you should have JA pull to evaluate for you. its free, they let you do up to three
http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.01-carat-I-color-SI2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-191199

here is a nice J i would also pull, most of the stones at mall stores are this color.
http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.01-carat-J-color-VS1-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-176229


they give you a PS discount and a wire tranfer discount usually equating to up to 5%
i would go this route if you have a B&M jeweler in your area. dont go to them until after youve gotten the stone. once you have it just say " ive already gotten a stone could you set it", it is best to have them at the same place, so if good old gold can find you one then good, but its not impossible to have them set by two different stores. ive done it, and they didnt charge me anything to do it.
 
and as for you H&A question. You dont NEED that. its a type of cut and is in reference to the symm of a stone. you can have a high well performing stone that isnt H&A, and i wouldnt be set on those, because H&A do come at a premium.
 
Thanks for the replies guys, I did notice that GOG carries Tacori, I just wasn't a fan of their online Diamond search as they don't let you refine your search as much but maybe I will call them directly when they are open and see what they can do.
 
CalgaryJay|1360425441|3376070 said:
Thanks for the replies guys, I did notice that GOG carries Tacori, I just wasn't a fan of their online Diamond search as they don't let you refine your search as much but maybe I will call them directly when they are open and see what they can do.
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there refining search is a bit lacking i suppose you are right but they are the best, believe me. you should have a problem if you just contact them directly
 
nielseel|1360425174|3376066 said:
and as for you H&A question. You dont NEED that. its a type of cut and is in reference to the symm of a stone. you can have a high well performing stone that isnt H&A, and i wouldnt be set on those, because H&A do come at a premium.
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Ok yeah that's what's kinda been throwing me off, when I look at the stones online and see their actual pictures I get turned off byt the ones that look really "scattered" rather than having that distinct "Arrow" look to them. I have no idea what they would look like in person so I could be worrying about nothing as seems the case.

As for a company like Since1910 that doesn't provide the Ideal Scope scans, is this a huge deal? Or just have them take a look at the stone and tell me if it's eye clean and that should be good?

I also notice that a lot of the diagrams that show the inclusions and stuff on the GIA reports differ for every diamond, some have a lot of small little ones, some have long lines, etc, I have searched online but there hasn't really been a diffinitive way to say what could be considered bad or not, is this pretty minor as well as long as it's a SI2+ Clarity?

I'm planning to propose while we and a bunch of our friends are in Turkey and want to try and get this ordered and ready for then.

Thanks again for all the help!

Jason
 
CalgaryJay|1360425441|3376070 said:
Thanks for the replies guys, I did notice that GOG carries Tacori, I just wasn't a fan of their online Diamond search as they don't let you refine your search as much but maybe I will call them directly when they are open and see what they can do.
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I completely agree with you! I would normally suggest JA, but they don't seem to have anything eye clean in your budget without going to K for color.

Here's something from Excel. It scored a .7 on the HCA (which is great!), and it faces up pretty white. I would call them and ask about the color, and see if they can give you an idealscope image:

http://www.exceldiamonds.com/Diamonds-1/IGI-Graded-Round-Diamond-1-05-Carat-J-Color-IF-Clarity-215199.html
 
CalgaryJay|1360428917|3376101 said:
nielseel|1360425174|3376066 said:
and as for you H&A question. You dont NEED that. its a type of cut and is in reference to the symm of a stone. you can have a high well performing stone that isnt H&A, and i wouldnt be set on those, because H&A do come at a premium.
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Ok yeah that's what's kinda been throwing me off, when I look at the stones online and see their actual pictures I get turned off byt the ones that look really "scattered" rather than having that distinct "Arrow" look to them. I have no idea what they would look like in person so I could be worrying about nothing as seems the case.

As for a company like Since1910 that doesn't provide the Ideal Scope scans, is this a huge deal? Or just have them take a look at the stone and tell me if it's eye clean and that should be good?

I also notice that a lot of the diagrams that show the inclusions and stuff on the GIA reports differ for every diamond, some have a lot of small little ones, some have long lines, etc, I have searched online but there hasn't really been a diffinitive way to say what could be considered bad or not, is this pretty minor as well as long as it's a SI2+ Clarity?

I'm planning to propose while we and a bunch of our friends are in Turkey and want to try and get this ordered and ready for then.

Thanks again for all the help!

Jason
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Well you can always call and find out! I'd be interested to know. They seem to have a good selection of stones under your budget with VS2 clarity. The more I'm learning the more I'm a bigger fan of VS2...You can find a nice SI1, but I would stick with at least that. If you call them and they do pull some stones for you come back and let us know! You'll want to ask for an idealscope image, and we can help you evaluate it, and you want the symmetry to be "excellent" or "ideal". You don't need a hearts and arrows stone, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't have a well performing stone!
 
Not sure why you even need the search feature when I gave you the link to all their rounds listed in order of price. Just click on the ones in your price range! And as I said, you'd have to call them on Tuesday (closed Sun and Mon) to ask them if they can get a few stones in for you to compare if they don't have one you want now. They will do a video for you to compare them, too.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamondResults.php?shape=1&optSym=3&inHouse=1&resultsColumns=402669647
 
Has anyone noticed that since1910.com is quite a bit cheaper than everywhere else for their diamonds?

What I mean is, for the exact specs that I want (H+, SI2+, Ideal everything and 1.04ct) I can go on since1910 and get the diamond for roughly $4500 +/- $500 but on GOG, WhiteFlash, etc it's like $5500-6000+ for the same specs.

Is this just because GOG, WhiteFlash, etc provide the extra scans and pictures?

Jason
 
CalgaryJay|1360439896|3376212 said:
Has anyone noticed that since1910.com is quite a bit cheaper than everywhere else for their diamonds?

What I mean is, for the exact specs that I want (H+, SI2+, Ideal everything and 1.04ct) I can go on since1910 and get the diamond for roughly $4500 +/- $500 but on GOG, WhiteFlash, etc it's like $5500-6000+ for the same specs.

Is this just because GOG, WhiteFlash, etc provide the extra scans and pictures?

Jason
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Personally, I don't care where my stone comes from as long as it's gorgeous and meets my requirements. I'm NOT going to pay premium just to get my center (upgrade eventually) from GOG or WF just because that's what everyone else (or the majority of everyone else) on here does. I'm all about getting a good deal and not paying a penny more than necessary. I've heard they're great places to work with, but if you're anything like me, you can find something similar for less.

EDIT - JA has pictures and videos of every stone, and Excel has pictures of some of their stones. Both places will also send you idealscope images. I'm not sure about since1910, but if that's where you're getting your setting and they have diamonds, then maybe you can work them and they can give you what you need.
 
Thanks for the input.

I'm going to ask since1910 if they can get the ideal scope images as well, will see what they say.

I noticed that Excel uses IGI for their grading, did a bit of research on them and it seems they aren't as strict as GIA but still seem reliable. I checked out the Excel diamond posted earlier, it looks good, I just wonder about the fact they call it IF and then the color (J)

Jason
 
Excel doesn't just have IGI graded stones. They have GIA and AGS for less than their competitors...You can call them and ask their honest opinion on IGI's grading but the magnified image didn't show any inclusions anywhere...They can send you additional pictures too.
 
Many or most of the stones listed on Since1910 may be just lists of stones from suppliers and not necessarily ones they have in the store. It costs money to have stones shipped in and then you also need magnified images of the stone and idealscope images. You can ask if they provide all that. Vendors like Good Old Gold and WF have upgrade policies where 100% of your purchase price is credited in case you ever want to trade up in size, color, or clarity. I have bought diamonds from both Good Old Gold and WhiteFlash and find their diamonds and service and policies worth every penny. But wherever you buy, stick with AGS Ideal cut or GIA Excellent cut. Those are the labs that are most respected and reliable in the US.

Julie did point out that Good Old Gold carries a specialty cut called August Vintage Rounds that are antique style cuts and they are absolutely gorgeous in Tacori settings. They are a little higher than round brilliants, though.
 
Diamondseeker makes great points. The vendors suggested also have great upgrade, trade in, buy back polices as well as being able to provide you with all the information that you need to make a well informed decision, some offer an additional PS discount as well which helps to bring the price down and vendors such as IDJ will also beat any competitors price.

While I agree that I want to get the most bang for my buck, it'a also important to me that the vendor be able to meet my future needs as well. Should you ever want to upgrade the stone in the future it will be more costly (and a huge headache) to do than had you purchased with a vendor that has an upgrade policy in place for you. Also buying blind is risky, it can be very expensive to ship stones back and forth until you find one that you are satisfied with. Purchasing from a vendor that can assess the stone for you and offer you additional images and videos of the stone offers piece of mind and can save you hundreds in shipping costs. Some vendors also charge you shipping just to call the stone in for them to view on your behalf, this can add up as well. My point is, though sometimes these diamonds appear to be cheaper from one particular vendor, in the long run it may have been less costly to go with a vendor that offered the stone for a couple hundred more because they also offer more information,better policies or free shipping. Just something to think about. ;)) BTW I have no idea what the policies are for the vendor you are considering but you should definitely look into it before committing.
 
diamondseeker2006|1360447283|3376309 said:
Julie did point out that Good Old Gold carries a specialty cut called August Vintage Rounds that are antique style cuts and they are absolutely gorgeous in Tacori settings. They are a little higher than round brilliants, though.
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Thanks again everyone for the advice and input.

As to this comment, yes I noticed the AVR recommendation and I had no idea what it even was until I did some research on it. I honestly don't know what that sort of cut would look like in comparison to a regular ideal cut, I'm going to have to try and find some examples online to see.

Have a lot of people been putting AVR's in the Tacori settings?

Jason
 
nielseel|1360452520|3376363 said:
Those stones are copies of old cuts. Tacori is vintage inspired. A lot of people do combine the two because the vintage styles compliment each other
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If you like the idea of old cuts with the Tacori's, you might enjoy looking at Jewels by Erica Grace website for your search as well.

http://www.jewelsbyericagrace.com/about_antique_diamonds

The ladies are wonderful to work with!
 
Wow, I really like the brilliance of the AVR, unfortunately I think it's gonna be a little out of my price range unless I was to drop below 1ct.

The cheapest eye clean 1ct AVR on GOG was $6800. I watched a comparison video on Youtube and the AVR tends to outshine the H&A diamond in the fact that it provides bigger flashes rather than lots of smaller flashes.

Great looking diamond though, wish I could afford it :-(

Jason
 
would you consider any other setting other than that one? Its very beautiful, but its very expensive. Also, its really thick. I feel like even a 1 ct stone might not look as large as it should because of how thick the stone is
good old gold sells similar settings for much less, leaving you 6500+ for a nice stone.
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER6711W44JJ
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER5656W44JJ

these is under 1k!
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER4122W44JJ
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER3848W44JJ ------>with a ps discount i bet this combo would be under 8k
 
CalgaryJay|1360455461|3376385 said:
Wow, I really like the brilliance of the AVR, unfortunately I think it's gonna be a little out of my price range unless I was to drop below 1ct.

The cheapest eye clean 1ct AVR on GOG was $6800. I watched a comparison video on Youtube and the AVR tends to outshine the H&A diamond in the fact that it provides bigger flashes rather than lots of smaller flashes.

Great looking diamond though, wish I could afford it :-(

Jason
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Yeah, it is a great stone, but Tacori is expensive, so most people have to balance out the cost. As you can see, regular round brilliants look great in Tacori, too!
 
diamondseeker2006|1360456647|3376396 said:
CalgaryJay|1360455461|3376385 said:
Wow, I really like the brilliance of the AVR, unfortunately I think it's gonna be a little out of my price range unless I was to drop below 1ct.

The cheapest eye clean 1ct AVR on GOG was $6800. I watched a comparison video on Youtube and the AVR tends to outshine the H&A diamond in the fact that it provides bigger flashes rather than lots of smaller flashes.

Great looking diamond though, wish I could afford it :-(

Jason
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Yeah, it is a great stone, but Tacori is expensive, so most people have to balance out the cost. As you can see, regular round brilliants look great in Tacori, too!
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While those do look nice, I'd have to see them in person. It just kinda sucks cus back a couple years ago my girlfriend and I went and looked at a bunch of rings and this Tacori setting was the one that really stood out. It sucks that it's so pricey.

I guess I have to decide if I'm going to settle for a cheaper setting or a cheaper diamond.

One basic setting that I really like is this one from WF:

http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/diamond-settings/harmony-diamond-engagement-ring-878.htm

It's just tough though cus my girl wasn't too fond of basic settings when we looked a couple years ago, so I'm hesitant to go to something else. I know she would probably be more than happy with anything I pick, I guess it's just my mind that would have the issue going in another direction setting or diamond wise.
 
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