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Absum

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tomorrow i am supposed to make a 3 hour drive to look at a GIA diamond with I1 clarity and have some questions i was desperately hoping someone can help answer before tomorrows drive. This is my first ever diamond purchase, i saw the GIA report and it said clarity grade was I1, 1.24 carat, round brilliant. Color origin natural, fancy grey color, distribution even. depth 60.5%, table 64%, girlde very thin to thick, cutlet none. finish for polish says good and finish for symmetry says good. flouresence none. clarity charecteristics feather, extra facet. comments-clarity grade based on clouds that are not shown. please help with an idea on price and what to look for. i am hoping its not ugly with to many inclusions or cloudy. i will have to ask the jeweler we are meeting at to borrow their loupe and am not even sure they will let me. please help he wants 2000
 
I say NO. Continue looking. Would not purchase an I1 diamond. Your choice however, I suggest you not waste your money.
 
Absum, you will not need a loupe to see inclusions on an I1 diamond most likely they will be apparent to the naked eye. With an I1 feather there may even be durability issues with the diamond. Are you after a fancy grey in particular?
 
I would not purchase an i1 diamond ( any stone I might purchase must be gia or ags graded )
Not only do eye visible inclusions drive me nuts after a few months of wearing, i1 stones are very difficult to sell on a secondary market
 
ratatat said:
Absum, you will not need a loupe to see inclusions on an I1 diamond most likely they will be apparent to the naked eye. With an I1 feather there may even be durability issues with the diamond. Are you after a fancy grey in particular?
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no not in particular. i didnt have much of a preference
 
I1 clarity, very thin girdle, feather, clarity based on clouds.

It is a cloudy stone with a durability issue. save yourself from 3 hour drive.
 
tkyasx78 said:
I would not purchase an i1 diamond ( any stone I might purchase must be gia or ags graded )
Not only do eye visible inclusions drive me nuts after a few months of wearing, i1 stones are very difficult to sell on a secondary market
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i was hoping to use this as leverage to get the stone for 1500 or less so long as it looks decent.
 
I1, fancy grey color, distribution even. depth 60.5%, table 64%, girlde very thin to thick, cutlet none. finish for polish says good and finish for symmetry says good. flouresence none. clarity charecteristics feather, extra facet. comments-clarity grade based on clouds that are not shown.


Save your gas. Don't waste your time. This one will be ugly!...:knockout:
 
1500 is a lot to spend on a stone that will have inclusions that everyone who sees it upclose will see.
I would save a 3 hour drive and if the budget is 1500 , focus on a stone that is eye clean
 
Even if by some remote chance it is eye clean or nearly eye clean the stone has a table that is bigger than it's depth this means it's going to be slumpy in the fire department, although it will face up big for it's size. I'd guess it will be a big grey mess. If it were me I'd buy a grey sparkly spinel in whatever shade of grey you are going for that is well cut and save up and buy a white diamond.
 
A big dark, cloudy diamond is not a bargain in any scenario. Never mind the money. Don't waste your time and effort.
 
Absum what is your budget? Would you buy a stone online? What setting are you thinking of? I agree with the others, you can do better
 
64% table on a round? I1 with Clouds not shown? No. Keep looking.
 
This sounds like a candidate for the Ugliest Diamond of All Time. Is this a joke? I think it might be.
 
Well, I beg to differ from everyone else on one point. I once owned a .95ct E I1 stone which was DEFINITELY eye clean - not only to myself - but also to the good folks at Good Old Gold from whom I bought it and who I know very well. Eye clean I1 stones ARE out there - but they are as rare as hen's teeth.

But let's assume yours is one of those 'needle in the haystack' diamonds and IS an eye clean I1...

It's gray. Very average polish and symmetry. But...that depth %!!! No. Just...no.

Save yourself the trip - you could bargain this down to a nickel and it will still be an unattractive stone. But having said all that.....

For some women, size is ALL that matters. I would suggest taking your girl to have a look at it and seeing if it works for HER. This isn't a stone you can ok alone. You'll need her to sign off on this one - it's just too specific in its qualities.
 
Just to prove a point (and for anyone who's interested in I1's in general) - here's a photo of the set diamond. It's very magnified, yet is still VERY clean looking. The black dot at the bottom of the stone is the camera GOG used when they took this shot for me.

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Absum said:
[Are you after a fancy gray in particular ?] no not in particular. i didnt have much of a preference
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I have posted a thread lately called 'Gray is beautiful' - gray spinel. Gray diamonds are beautiful to me as well, but I am not too enthusiastic with most of them. There usually are extensive clouds - in the I1 territory... some thin enough so that sum total the dark stone looks good: both the dark body colour & the slight haze obviously work against transparency & the cases where the clouds are simply not obvious in the dark, are nice stones, IHMO - WWW.

The gray diamonds may be colored so by different means, each type with its own prevailing defects - usually oodles of them [which ... make these stones interestign to me]. The chemical diversity accounts for different tints - bluish-gray, greenish-gray, purplish-gray; light, dark ... I never knew how GIA awards the distinction of 'Fancy' to gray diamonds [on the To Do list], but this does mean something - in terms of both look & price.

The transparent deeply dark specimens in the 'Gray' pile are fascinating to me: darkness is not supposed to be transparent ... exceptions look impossible & miraculous. They are also priced as such [the latest heart-breaker I remember was an 'Fancy Dark Gray', IF pear (1.7cts & 20K). I have not asked for one since, but none turned up either ... ].

Prices - are interesting enough - take a look: WWW & WWW . (there are other sources, for sure - JA has an educative list of goods listed all in one place ... )

Footnote: the heartbreaking pear was a flawless version of this - WWW ... twice the weight, same $. Eh ...
 
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Not worth the drive...an I1 based on clouds not shown usually means that the clouds are going to interfere with the brilliance of the stone.

Post the up close images that you have...if you dont have up close photos request them before driving 3 hours.

Edit...what is the cost?
 
$1500 Gray - WWW

1.2 cts Gray - WWW - an SI2, so, perhaps not incomparable with your find ? I would not hate your diamond if it looked at least this nice: fairly clear & with a couple of local inclusions, taking away from the weight of the clouds toward the clarity grade.

Perhaps one way to think about the clouds problem is to consider what clarity grade the stone would have been - Only base on the cloud-load ... VS is great & rare among the grays methinks (although VS with only clouds as a the grade-making charatceritic are not mmainstream loves - among colourless diamonds); SI ... sems to do well in the darker grays; SI2 only due to clouds in a lighter gray looks like this - WWW & it is not an incomprehensible choice ...

(over & out)
 
tyty333 said:
... I1 based on clouds not shown ...
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Clouds + Feather

- if clouds were the only characteristic for I1, I wouldn't have thought much of it either (perhaps a Fancy Dark Gray, though). I am hoping that the feather makes a great contribution toward the clarity grade & is no trouble on its own (touching surface only in one side, say, with substantial diamond mass on the other; perhaps a healed fracture or in closed form).

Citing from post: "clarity charecteristics feather, extra facet. comments-clarity grade based on clouds that are not shown [in adition to characteristics shown]". Price: < 1500.

I would have had a call with the seller asking for the details I wrote about, rather than drive in.
 
Hi absum,
THere are many beautiful I1 diamonds, however far more are butt ugly.
BUT_ more concerning is the color issue.
We have sold many gray diamonds over the years- but to people who were specifically looking for a gray diamond. They're really not for people looking for "normal" diamonds.....
In general, if something is very cheap, there's a very good reason.....
 
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