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Hey, could you please give me some suggestions?

Really appreciate your help!

They are both ~1.2 c, F, VS2
Option1: GIA
Cut grade: Excellent' Symmetry: Excellent;polish: very good
table: 57-58%, depth:60.2; none culet,crown:34.5%,pavillion:40.6

option 2: AGS (ACA)
Cut grade: ideal 0; ideal0 symmetry+polish
table: 55.6%;depth:61.1%;crown:34.7%;pavillion:43;pointed culet

My questions are
1) is the second one's table size too small?
2) second is 1500more than first one...does it worth the extra money

Thanks!

below is the first one

d1_12356.jpg
 
this is the first one also

d11_12356.jpg
 
Date: 6/9/2009 4:37:42 PM
Author:jxhlps
Hey, could you please give me some suggestions? I need to get back to them very soon

Really appreciate your help!

They are both ~1.2 c, F, VS2
Option1: GIA
Cut grade: Excellent' Symmetry: Excellent;polish: very good
table: 57-58%, depth:60.2; none culet,crown:34.5%,pavillion:40.6

option 2: AGS (ACA)
Cut grade: ideal 0; ideal0 symmetry+polish
table: 55.6%;depth:61.1%;crown:34.7%;pavillion:43;pointed culet

My questions are
1) is the second one's table size too small?
2) second is 1500more than first one...does it worth the extra money

Thanks!

below is the first one
The IS image is for option 1? I see it is with the ASET, the optical symmetry is a bit off. However it could be a nice make of diamond, do you have the actual photo of the diamond? It depends whether this one fits the bill or whether you prefer the branded ACA, do you have the details for that one too please?

The table size on the second is fine. Price, well whether it is worth it depends with the extra, the branded diamond will be more expensive obviously but that is quite a price jump.
 
this is the second one

d2_12356.jpg
 
Date: 6/9/2009 4:39:09 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/9/2009 4:37:42 PM
Author:jxhlps
Hey, could you please give me some suggestions? I need to get back to them very soon

Really appreciate your help!

They are both ~1.2 c, F, VS2
Option1: GIA
Cut grade: Excellent'' Symmetry: Excellent;polish: very good
table: 57-58%, depth:60.2; none culet,crown:34.5%,pavillion:40.6

option 2: AGS (ACA)
Cut grade: ideal 0; ideal0 symmetry+polish
table: 55.6%;depth:61.1%;crown:34.7%;pavillion:43;pointed culet

My questions are
1) is the second one''s table size too small?
2) second is 1500more than first one...does it worth the extra money

Thanks!

below is the first one
The IS image is for option 1? I see it is with the ASET, the optical symmetry is a bit off. However it could be a nice make of diamond, do you have the actual photo of the diamond? It depends whether this one fits the bill or whether you prefer the branded ACA, do you have the details for that one too please?

The table size on the second is fine. Price, well whether it is worth it depends with the extra, the branded diamond will be more expensive obviously but that is quite a price jump.
Thanks a lot for looking at it...

I have attached the image of the second one up...

The second one is bit out of our budget, but we can still afford it..that''s why I am hesitating...

Below is the actual pic of the first one..thank you!

d12_12356.jpg
 
Date: 6/9/2009 4:55:34 PM
Author: jxhlps


Date: 6/9/2009 4:39:09 PM
Author: Lorelei



Date: 6/9/2009 4:37:42 PM
Author:jxhlps
Hey, could you please give me some suggestions? I need to get back to them very soon

Really appreciate your help!

They are both ~1.2 c, F, VS2
Option1: GIA
Cut grade: Excellent' Symmetry: Excellent;polish: very good
table: 57-58%, depth:60.2; none culet,crown:34.5%,pavillion:40.6

option 2: AGS (ACA)
Cut grade: ideal 0; ideal0 symmetry+polish
table: 55.6%;depth:61.1%;crown:34.7%;pavillion:43;pointed culet

My questions are
1) is the second one's table size too small?
2) second is 1500more than first one...does it worth the extra money

Thanks!

below is the first one
The IS image is for option 1? I see it is with the ASET, the optical symmetry is a bit off. However it could be a nice make of diamond, do you have the actual photo of the diamond? It depends whether this one fits the bill or whether you prefer the branded ACA, do you have the details for that one too please?

The table size on the second is fine. Price, well whether it is worth it depends with the extra, the branded diamond will be more expensive obviously but that is quite a price jump.
Thanks a lot for looking at it...

I have attached the image of the second one up...

The second one is bit out of our budget, but we can still afford it..that's why I am hesitating...

Below is the actual pic of the first one..thank you!

Thanks! Its a nice diamond, like I say the optical symmetry is a bit off ( not the same as lab graded symmetry on the reports). What I would do is ask for Bob at WF to compare both and discuss them with you, that way you will have a better idea of whether the price jump for the ACA would be worth it. Bob will be honest with you. Alternatively did you want colourless VS? You could maybe look at some G colour if you are agreeable and maybe even SI1 clarity? That might broaden the options.

Do you have the actual ASET for the ACA, not the computer simulated image please?
 
Date: 6/9/2009 4:58:07 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/9/2009 4:55:34 PM
Author: jxhlps



Date: 6/9/2009 4:39:09 PM
Author: Lorelei




Date: 6/9/2009 4:37:42 PM
Author:jxhlps
Hey, could you please give me some suggestions? I need to get back to them very soon

Really appreciate your help!

They are both ~1.2 c, F, VS2
Option1: GIA
Cut grade: Excellent'' Symmetry: Excellent;polish: very good
table: 57-58%, depth:60.2; none culet,crown:34.5%,pavillion:40.6

option 2: AGS (ACA)
Cut grade: ideal 0; ideal0 symmetry+polish
table: 55.6%;depth:61.1%;crown:34.7%;pavillion:43;pointed culet

My questions are
1) is the second one''s table size too small?
2) second is 1500more than first one...does it worth the extra money

Thanks!

below is the first one
The IS image is for option 1? I see it is with the ASET, the optical symmetry is a bit off. However it could be a nice make of diamond, do you have the actual photo of the diamond? It depends whether this one fits the bill or whether you prefer the branded ACA, do you have the details for that one too please?

The table size on the second is fine. Price, well whether it is worth it depends with the extra, the branded diamond will be more expensive obviously but that is quite a price jump.
Thanks a lot for looking at it...

I have attached the image of the second one up...

The second one is bit out of our budget, but we can still afford it..that''s why I am hesitating...

Below is the actual pic of the first one..thank you!

Thanks! Its a nice diamond, like I say the optical symmetry is a bit off ( not the same as lab graded symmetry on the reports). What I would do is ask for Bob at WF to compare both and discuss them with you, that way you will have a better idea of whether the price jump for the ACA would be worth it. Bob will be honest with you. Alternatively did you want colourless VS? You could maybe look at some G colour if you are agreeable and maybe even SI1 clarity? That might broaden the options.

Do you have the actual ASET for the ACA, not the computer simulated image please?
Thank you! unfortunately, I don''t have the actual ASET for the second one..the one I posted is cut from the AGS report..

Can I ask who Bob is? We already have someone really nice helping us...can we still ask for Bob to discuss with us? Sorry, I don''t have much idea...

For the color, since I can see slight difference between F and G, I''d go F...for clarity, I have one question...is crystal very bad? The first one has a relatively large circle of cloud, no crystal, the second one has bit crystal...both are off the table though...is there any big difference of these two kinds?(like which one is better than the other one?)

Thanks!
 
Date: 6/9/2009 5:08:37 PM
Author: jxhlps

Date: 6/9/2009 4:58:07 PM
Author: Lorelei


Date: 6/9/2009 4:55:34 PM
Author: jxhlps




Date: 6/9/2009 4:39:09 PM
Author: Lorelei





Date: 6/9/2009 4:37:42 PM
Author:jxhlps
Hey, could you please give me some suggestions? I need to get back to them very soon

Really appreciate your help!

They are both ~1.2 c, F, VS2
Option1: GIA
Cut grade: Excellent'' Symmetry: Excellent;polish: very good
table: 57-58%, depth:60.2; none culet,crown:34.5%,pavillion:40.6

option 2: AGS (ACA)
Cut grade: ideal 0; ideal0 symmetry+polish
table: 55.6%;depth:61.1%;crown:34.7%;pavillion:43;pointed culet

My questions are
1) is the second one''s table size too small?
2) second is 1500more than first one...does it worth the extra money

Thanks!

below is the first one
The IS image is for option 1? I see it is with the ASET, the optical symmetry is a bit off. However it could be a nice make of diamond, do you have the actual photo of the diamond? It depends whether this one fits the bill or whether you prefer the branded ACA, do you have the details for that one too please?

The table size on the second is fine. Price, well whether it is worth it depends with the extra, the branded diamond will be more expensive obviously but that is quite a price jump.
Thanks a lot for looking at it...

I have attached the image of the second one up...

The second one is bit out of our budget, but we can still afford it..that''s why I am hesitating...

Below is the actual pic of the first one..thank you!

Thanks! Its a nice diamond, like I say the optical symmetry is a bit off ( not the same as lab graded symmetry on the reports). What I would do is ask for Bob at WF to compare both and discuss them with you, that way you will have a better idea of whether the price jump for the ACA would be worth it. Bob will be honest with you. Alternatively did you want colourless VS? You could maybe look at some G colour if you are agreeable and maybe even SI1 clarity? That might broaden the options.

Do you have the actual ASET for the ACA, not the computer simulated image please?
Thank you! unfortunately, I don''t have the actual ASET for the second one..the one I posted is cut from the AGS report..

Can I ask who Bob is? We already have someone really nice helping us...can we still ask for Bob to discuss with us? Sorry, I don''t have much idea...

For the color, since I can see slight difference between F and G, I''d go F...for clarity, I have one question...is crystal very bad? The first one has a relatively large circle of cloud, no crystal, the second one has bit crystal...both are off the table though...is there any big difference of these two kinds?(like which one is better than the other one?)

Thanks!

Ok, usually there will be an ASET, IS and other on the diamond''s actual page. Bob Hoskins is one of WF''s experts, you can certainly ask whoever you are working with to assist you, but Bob has a very experienced eye so if you aren''t sure his input would be useful. Crystal inclusions are normally not an issue in these clarity grades, they should be eyeclean. Did you compare F and G colour which were GIA or AGS graded and of excellent cut quality? If the diamonds you compared were from one of the other labs and not well cut then it is possible you might see a difference....However if you prefer F colour then stick to that!
 
Date: 6/9/2009 5:12:24 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/9/2009 5:08:37 PM
Author: jxhlps


Date: 6/9/2009 4:58:07 PM
Author: Lorelei



Date: 6/9/2009 4:55:34 PM
Author: jxhlps





Date: 6/9/2009 4:39:09 PM
Author: Lorelei






Date: 6/9/2009 4:37:42 PM
Author:jxhlps
Hey, could you please give me some suggestions? I need to get back to them very soon

Really appreciate your help!

They are both ~1.2 c, F, VS2
Option1: GIA
Cut grade: Excellent'' Symmetry: Excellent;polish: very good
table: 57-58%, depth:60.2; none culet,crown:34.5%,pavillion:40.6

option 2: AGS (ACA)
Cut grade: ideal 0; ideal0 symmetry+polish
table: 55.6%;depth:61.1%;crown:34.7%;pavillion:43;pointed culet

My questions are
1) is the second one''s table size too small?
2) second is 1500more than first one...does it worth the extra money

Thanks!

below is the first one
The IS image is for option 1? I see it is with the ASET, the optical symmetry is a bit off. However it could be a nice make of diamond, do you have the actual photo of the diamond? It depends whether this one fits the bill or whether you prefer the branded ACA, do you have the details for that one too please?

The table size on the second is fine. Price, well whether it is worth it depends with the extra, the branded diamond will be more expensive obviously but that is quite a price jump.
Thanks a lot for looking at it...

I have attached the image of the second one up...

The second one is bit out of our budget, but we can still afford it..that''s why I am hesitating...

Below is the actual pic of the first one..thank you!

Thanks! Its a nice diamond, like I say the optical symmetry is a bit off ( not the same as lab graded symmetry on the reports). What I would do is ask for Bob at WF to compare both and discuss them with you, that way you will have a better idea of whether the price jump for the ACA would be worth it. Bob will be honest with you. Alternatively did you want colourless VS? You could maybe look at some G colour if you are agreeable and maybe even SI1 clarity? That might broaden the options.

Do you have the actual ASET for the ACA, not the computer simulated image please?
Thank you! unfortunately, I don''t have the actual ASET for the second one..the one I posted is cut from the AGS report..

Can I ask who Bob is? We already have someone really nice helping us...can we still ask for Bob to discuss with us? Sorry, I don''t have much idea...

For the color, since I can see slight difference between F and G, I''d go F...for clarity, I have one question...is crystal very bad? The first one has a relatively large circle of cloud, no crystal, the second one has bit crystal...both are off the table though...is there any big difference of these two kinds?(like which one is better than the other one?)

Thanks!

Ok, usually there will be an ASET, IS and other on the diamond''s actual page. Bob Hoskins is one of WF''s experts, you can certainly ask whoever you are working with to assist you, but Bob has a very experienced eye so if you aren''t sure his input would be useful. Crystal inclusions are normally not an issue in these clarity grades, they should be eyeclean. Did you compare F and G colour which were GIA or AGS graded and of excellent cut quality? If the diamonds you compared were from one of the other labs and not well cut then it is possible you might see a difference....However if you prefer F colour then stick to that!
Yeah, I don''t see the images on the page I guess because it''s a very new one.

Thank you so much for all your advice...I will try to talk to Bob.
 
It could be that it is a very new diamond and they haven''t uploaded the images yet. Let us know how you get on!
 
Date: 6/9/2009 5:30:05 PM
Author: Lorelei
It could be that it is a very new diamond and they haven''t uploaded the images yet. Let us know how you get on!
Hey, Lorelei,
I uploaded the AST of the second one...could you take one more look before we decide?

I talked to Bob...basically he said from our eyes, you cannot see the cut difference of these two. ACA is more ''mind clean''..however ,the ''very good'' polish of the first one might be seeable compared with the ''ideal'' polish...

I forgot to ask whether it''s worth 1500 price jump
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But I guess it''s probably a more personal choice also?

Thanks!

d2_12357.jpg
 
Date: 6/10/2009 4:40:44 PM
Author: jxhlps



Date: 6/9/2009 5:30:05 PM
Author: Lorelei
It could be that it is a very new diamond and they haven't uploaded the images yet. Let us know how you get on!
Hey, Lorelei,
I uploaded the AST of the second one...could you take one more look before we decide?

I talked to Bob...basically he said from our eyes, you cannot see the cut difference of these two. ACA is more 'mind clean'..however ,the 'very good' polish of the first one might be seeable compared with the 'ideal' polish...

I forgot to ask whether it's worth 1500 price jump
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But I guess it's probably a more personal choice also?

Thanks!
The ASET looks superb! As to the price jump being worth it, it is so hard to advise....Yes it is a personal choice and difficult if they look similar for performance. What is your gut telling you? That normally gives you the right answer I find. Do you have the hearts image for the ACA? This would be helpful.
 
Date: 6/10/2009 4:44:27 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/10/2009 4:40:44 PM
Author: jxhlps




Date: 6/9/2009 5:30:05 PM
Author: Lorelei
It could be that it is a very new diamond and they haven''t uploaded the images yet. Let us know how you get on!
Hey, Lorelei,
I uploaded the AST of the second one...could you take one more look before we decide?

I talked to Bob...basically he said from our eyes, you cannot see the cut difference of these two. ACA is more ''mind clean''..however ,the ''very good'' polish of the first one might be seeable compared with the ''ideal'' polish...

I forgot to ask whether it''s worth 1500 price jump
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But I guess it''s probably a more personal choice also?

Thanks!
The ASET looks superb! As to the price jump being worth it, it is so hard to advise....Yes it is a personal choice and difficult if they look similar for performance. What is your gut telling you? That normally gives you the right answer I find. Do you have the hearts image for the ACA? This would be helpful.
Really appreciate your prompt reply! Yeah, I think we will go this one :)

Now I am hesitating about the setting
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going to create another post :p this forum is GREAT!

I will show pic when we get it.

Thank you so much for your help!
 
So glad to help and I am so pleased you have found us useful!!!

Thats great with the new thread for the setting, post your selections and we can help you decide
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