Help to choose 3-4ct diamond

[DiamondBaby]

HI, after a lot of help, and I learnt a few things from @DejaWiz and @Kim N which, thankfully, as I had more time to see the diamond avoided what was now a bad purchase.
So, I start again. I have looked around and have found these, so looking for some input. They are between 3-4ct, and most are Hearts and arrows according to the certs. So it's what's between them to help decide. Cost is a factor, but these would all fall within the budget for me. All above 3ct and over the 9.3mm for measurements

3ct range

https://www.igi.org/viewpdf.php?r=LG596316024

https://www.igi.org/viewpdf.php?r=LG591334944

https://www.igi.org/viewpdf.php?r=LG594343530

https://www.igi.org/viewpdf.php?r=LG564365778

4ct

https://www.igi.org/viewpdf.php?r=LG576326638

https://www.igi.org/viewpdf.php?r=LG587319975

https://www.igi.org/viewpdf.php?r=LG561263400

https://www.igi.org/viewpdf.php?r=LG596333907

Thanks!

 

[DejaWiz]

Hello, DiamondBaby.

Here are the videos for your list:

3ct range

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4ct range

Loupe360

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The 3 65 appears to have pretty clean CVD material.
Either 3.21 looks good...I like 5778 a bit more.
The 4.00 looks to have potential, but I'd love to see an ASET scope image.
The others not specifically called out I would cross of my list, if it were me shopping.
Are these diamonds at a local jeweler or are you looking at online retailers?

 

[DiamondBaby]

Hello, DiamondBaby.

Here are the videos for your list:

3ct range

Loupe360

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Loupe360

loupe360.com

Loupe360

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Loupe360

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4ct range

Loupe360

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Loupe360

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Loupe360

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Loupe360

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The 3 65 appears to have pretty clean CVD material.
Either 3.21 looks good...I like 5778 a bit more.
The 4.00 looks to have potential, but I'd love to see an ASET scope image.
The others not specifically called out I would cross of my list, if it were me shopping.
Are these diamonds at a local jeweler or are you looking at online retailers?

Thanks for the videos, I had seen some on the site, it’s an online Irish retailer, so I think like you said an online inventory like many of the others, so not in stock. There is a Jeweller they deal with who can source the stones, but he said the same. Most places are pulling from an online inventory.

 

[DejaWiz]

Thanks for the videos, I had seen some on the site, it’s an online Irish retailer, so I think like you said an online inventory like many of the others, so not in stock. There is a Jeweller they deal with who can source the stones, but he said the same. Most places are pulling from an online inventory.

If you don't mind sharing your USD budget (not including any VAT/taxes/fees), then I'd be happy to search and see if there are any other options that you can add to your list, if they also happen to be listed on their site. There may be a possibility of them price matching the pre-VAT pricing, if the difference is significant enough for you to try and pursue.
I'm seeing around USD $8850 at the highest price amongst these eight options... comparable to your jeweler's pricing (pre-VAT)?

 

[DiamondBaby]

If you don't mind sharing your USD budget (not including any VAT/taxes/fees), then I'd be happy to search and see if there are any other options that you can add to your list, if they also happen to be listed on their site. There may be a possibility of them price matching the pre-VAT pricing, if the difference is significant enough for you to try and pursue.

For Diamond and setting it would be $10000 incl everything. That 4ct is just over $6500.
For a Diamond from the US in the $10000 mark there is €3000 in tax and duty on top of that. So preferable if it’s a european (EU) retailer, and not UK based either, as same tax and duty applies. So even though the likes of James Allen price in Euro, it’s shipped from the US so tax applies.
It’s diamondsfactory.ie that those diamonds were from.
It’s a D colour I am after. The Jeweller I was dealing with suggested D VS1, and XXX cut. Hearts and arrows.
Thanks!

 

[DejaWiz]

For Diamond and setting it would be $10000 incl everything. That 4ct is just over $6500.
For a Diamond from the US in the $10000 mark there is €3000 in tax and duty on top of that. So preferable if it’s a european (EU) retailer, and not UK based either, as same tax and duty applies. So even though the likes of James Allen price in Euro, it’s shipped from the US so tax applies.
It’s diamondsfactory.ie that those diamonds were from.
It’s a D colour I am after. The Jeweller I was dealing with suggested D VS1, and XXX cut. Hearts and arrows.
Thanks!

Adding some others for you to search for.

Nice 16% crown height, but optics assessment might be nice due to slightly steeper crown angle:
LG588358496

Are you open to E, maybe F color VS1+ as long as the material is clean and higher quality, or are you wanting to limit to D color?
If understand if you want/need D grade, because my wife is extremely color sensitive when it comes to diamonds.

 

[DiamondBaby]

Adding some others for you to search for.

Nice 16% crown height, but optics assessment might be nice due to slightly steeper crown angle:
LG588358496

Are you open to E, maybe F color VS1+ as long as the material is clean and higher quality, or are you wanting to limit to D color?
If understand if you want/need D grade, because my wife is extremely color sensitive when it comes to diamonds.

It’s a D, even with the othe Diamond yesterday that I didn’t pick, and better E’s, I could see the difference between the D and the E. My own engagement ring, while now set differently is an F, and much and all as I love it, in certain lights I really see the colour in it.
So this time I’m going for a D, as I want that lack of colour. There are some really lovely lower colours, but while I can admire them, it would drive me nuts wearing it all the time

 

[DejaWiz]

It’s a D, even with the othe Diamond yesterday that I didn’t pick, and better E’s, I could see the difference between the D and the E. My own engagement ring, while now set differently is an F, and much and all as I love it, in certain lights I really see the colour in it.
So this time I’m going for a D, as I want that lack of colour. There are some really lovely lower colours, but while I can admire them, it would drive me nuts wearing it all the time

I understand that by a factor of 100%

 

[DiamondBaby]

I understand that by a factor of 100%

That’s the engagement ring before and after reset

 

[Kim N]

I like this one the best of the bunch.

https://www.igi.org/viewpdf.php?r=LG594343530 https://loupe360.com/diamond/LG594343530

 

[DiamondBaby]

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How about this one

 

[DejaWiz]

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How about this one

Looks pretty darn good to me in the video.
Kim N what do you see... anything concerning with this CVD diamond?

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[DiamondBaby]

Looks pretty darn good to me in the video.
Kim N what do you see... anything concerning with this CVD diamond?

Loupe360

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Sounds good! The 4ct that you had liked is gone, so I have been looking. The video I saw I looks good. There is some black carbon in it, but it appears to be deep in the base, not visible from top down view. Unless I am missing something. Have t seen a loupe video though.

 

[DejaWiz]

I've got a link to a 4ct D SI1 clean HPHT with Hearts and Arrows designation on the grading report...no dark inclusions and no inclusions under the table. $4400!
Let me know when your active on the forum and I'll post it so you can pounce (place a hold/reserve on it).

 

[DiamondBaby]

I've got a link to a 4ct D SI1 clean HPHT with Hearts and Arrows designation on the grading report...no dark inclusions and no inclusions under the table. $4400!
Let me know when your active on the forum and I'll post it so you can pounce (place a hold/reserve on it).

I’m here, but if it’s shipping from the US there is a huge tax/duty add on. That can add a lot on, just over 30% usually. The 4.21 is under €6500.

 

[DejaWiz]

I’m here, but if it’s shipping from the US there is a huge tax/duty add on. That can add a lot on, just over 30% usually. The 4.21 is under €6500.

Check with your local sellers to see if they'll at least price match the pre-VAT price, if needed.

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[DiamondBaby]

Just had a look, if you look from the top down view on the centre of the table, heading to 10/11 o clock what’s the white thread I can see in it?

 

[DejaWiz]

Just had a look, if you look from the top down view on the centre of the table, heading to 10/11 o clock what’s the white thread I can see in it?

That's a growth remnant inclusion... similar to what's in the crown at the 4 o'clock position and down in the pavilion area of this awesome and completely eye-clean 3 carat that breanne snagged.

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[breanne]

That's a growth remnant inclusion... similar to what's in the crown at the 4 o'clock position and down in the pavilion area of this awesome and completely eye-clean 3 carat that breanne snagged.

Loupe360

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On my hand set, and in the wax mold. I was trying to get all the arrows to show. As you can see, absolutely eye clean.

 

[DejaWiz]

Fantastic pictures, breanne - thank you for posting them

 

[Kim N]

Looks pretty darn good to me in the video.
Kim N what do you see... anything concerning with this CVD diamond?

Loupe360

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It looks quite good to me too. I like the cut a lot.

 

[DiamondBaby]

On my hand set, and in the wax mold. I was trying to get all the arrows to show. As you can see, absolutely eye clean.

Breanne that is absolutely stunning! What size is the ring? I’m looking at a similar setting for mine?

 

[DiamondBaby]

So I did it! Diamond was optioned today, and final purchase will go through tomorrow. Should be with the jeweller middle to end of next week. Now to think about the setting for it. Will be full platinum band and setting, so next lot of decisions to be made now.

 

[breanne]

Breanne that is absolutely stunning! What size is the ring? I’m looking at a similar setting for mine?

Size 5

 

[Round Halo Lover]

So I did it! Diamond was optioned today, and final purchase will go through tomorrow. Should be with the jeweller middle to end of next week. Now to think about the setting for it. Will be full platinum band and setting, so next lot of decisions to be made now.

Hi DiamondBaby, I’m in Ireland too. Just wondering what retailer you ordered your diamond from and what jeweller is setting your ring? I plan the same as you - a big 4ct RB in a Tiffany setting.

Thanks!

 

[DiamondBaby]

Hi, sorry, totally missed this. It was an independent Jeweller in Dublin, Diamonds by Design who made it. He sourced the Diamond also. He has been brilliant to deal with.