Help needed... Which of the 2 ?

[mbthemis]

Hi everybody, thanks for all the info in this great web site that helped me learn so much and go this far with my quest.
I need your help since i am buying online and i dont have the real pictures of the diamonds. After a lot of reading and searching
I sorted up my selection to 2 stones . I put their GIA characteristics below. They have both XXX rating in their certificates...
The first is:

Round Brilliant
Measurements: 5.81 - 5.85 x 3.43 mm

Carat Weight: 0.70 carat
Color Grade: H
Clarity Grade: VS2
Cut Grade: Excellent

Proportions
Depth: 58.9%
Table: 59%
Crown Angle: 33.0°
Crown Height: 13.0%
Pavilion Angle: 40.8°
Pavilion Depth: 43.0%
Star Length: 50%
Lower Half: 75%
Girdle: Thin to Medium, Faceted (2.5%)
Culet: None

Finish
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: Faint

Clarity Characteristics
Crystal, Feather
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The second stone is this:
Round Brilliant
Measurements: 5.65 - 5.68 x 3.53 mm

Carat Weight: 0.70 carat
Color Grade: G
Clarity Grade: VS2
Cut Grade: Excellent

Proportions
Depth: 62.3%
Table: 56%
Crown Angle: 35.5°
Crown Height: 15.5%
Pavilion Angle: 40.8°
Pavilion Depth: 43.0%
Star Length: 50%
Lower Half: 80%
Girdle: Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted (3.5%)
Culet: None

Finish
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: Medium Blue

Clarity Characteristics
Crystal, Cloud
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Some remarks iv managed to figure:
The first one gets 4 excelents in HCA and scores 1.0
The second one gets 4 VeryGood in HCA and scores 2.6 but is very very close in red area = very close to Excelent
The second one has a G colour while the first an H.
The proportions of the second are closer to 55 61 etc...
Fluorescence is less in the first


Which one should i choose? which difference would play the most significant role?

 

[JulieN]

Does this vendor have Ideal Scope capabilities? Are there other pictures?

 

[Christina...]

I'd want to see IS images too. Are you set on using this particular vendor? If not we could help you find a stone within budget for you that will have the images you need to make a truly informed purchase.

 

[mbthemis]

Unfortunatelly there are no pictures at all, they said they can provide me normal photos but it will take 15 days, my search has been made to an UK website so as to avoid toll fees since i am from EU. So unfortunatelly i don t have the richness of info that for example wh...fl... has.

From the above data that i posted what conclusions do you make?

 

[Christina...]

Based solely on the info you do have.....I would choose the H VS2. It's likely to be a bright stone and it faces up larger than the G. The G is closer to the angles that I personally prefer, and could potentially be a beautiful stone, but since GIA rounds their measurements, it's impossible to say which way these could go. Thats why having images is so helpful. Can your vendor evaluate the two stones side by side and offer you an opinion?

 

[mbthemis]

I ll try to get some but they told me they can get only normal photos in 15 days...

 

[JulieN]

15 days! :/

Well, they both should be very nice. I would probably go with the G.

Would buying from the US be less advantageous?

 

[mbthemis]

buying from US provides me more options of vendors with images, but i have to deal with customs fuss when the stone will arrive. I wish there was a proper eu shop with diamond images

 

[mbthemis]

what do you think of this one?
Round Brilliant
Measurements: 5.70 - 5.72 x 3.53 mm

Carat Weight: 0.70 carat
Color Grade: H
Clarity Grade: VS2
Cut Grade: Excellent

Proportions
Depth: 61.7%
Table: 56%
Crown Angle: 35.0°
Crown Height: 15.5%
Pavilion Angle: 40.8°
Pavilion Depth: 43.0%
Star Length: 50%
Lower Half: 80%
Girdle: Thin to Medium, Faceted (3.0%)
Culet: None

Finish
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None

Clarity Characteristics
Feather

it gets 1.5 in HCA

 

[JulieN]

This one seems really nice, too. Top of the pack.

 

[mbthemis]

I just got a picture of the stone... (it is the 3d -the last imentioned) i attach it...
please let me know what you think of it..

especially the experienced, it has at 12:00 (top of it) a feather? and another one at 6:00 (bottom). Also a bit more up from 6 it is why it got the polish very good (this is propably minor)

what do you make of all the above? should i go for it?

 

[Christina...]

You won't be able to see the inclusions with your naked eye. Imagine shrinking the photo down to less than 6mm and then trying to locate the inclusion. This one has my vote too.

 

[mbthemis]

The chip at the top, or the feather at the botttom, wont be a problem for a possible future crack?

it seems great, apart from this fear that something might happen to it?

I go for it without any fear?

 

[mbthemis]

Funny it seems i lost this one..

the manufacturer sold it and i cant get this one unfortunatelly...

Thank you all so much... i was so close to getting this one.. i feel a bit sad, but i ll try searching for a new one and i ll let you all know...

thanks again

 

[mbthemis]

after a lot of search i managed to find another one that seems as a candidate...

what do you think? if it is a go i ll buy it asap so as not to loose this one as well...!


GIA certificate
ROUND BRILLIANT

Measurements: 5.67 - 5.71 x 3.52 mm
Carat Weight: 0.70 carat
Color Grade: H
Clarity Grade: VS1
Cut Grade: Excellent
PROPORTIONS

Depth: 61.9%
Table: 56%
Crown Angle: 35.5°
Crown Height: 15.5%
Pavilion Angle: 40.6°
Pavilion Depth: 43.0%
Star Length: 55%
Lower Half: 80%
Girdle: Medium, Faceted (3.5%)
Culet: None
FINISH

Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: Medium Blue
CLARITY CHARACTERISTICS

Feather, Indented Natural, Cloud, Needle

i attach also the photo

 

[mbthemis]

i attach also the same photo in negative lighting so as to show more of the imperfections..

whaiting for your thoughts... what do you think of it ???