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Hello people,

I’m in the market for a 2 carat diamond engagement ring. I would prefer a round, G and above, Triple X, VS1 and above, with slight/no fluorescence. The setting would be platinum. And there goes my biggest problem, the setting. She LOVES the Tiffany Style Ring(6 prong solitaire with knife edge) but my account doesn’t. PLEASE give me insight on a setting that most resembles the Tiffany Knife Edge. I’ve read about WF, Vatche, Eternity By Yoni, etc, etc, etc. I don’t have the eye for these things. I have read up on best depth(58-63), best table(53-58 ), but this setting is the most difficult thing to nail down. Your guidance/recommendations are greatly appreciated. I need something by the first week in August.

She’s a GREAT woman and I want to share life with her beyond!

THANK YOU !!!!!!!
 
I guess the first question to ask is about her preferences. Does she want a tiffany stone/setting? If so, you should buy her that, even if it means a smaller stone. But if she likes the style but doesn't care about the brand, then you can get an ideal diamond in a very lovely setting. Brian gavin has a great tiffany style and so does whiteflash. I would try to get both the stone and setting from the same place bc it will make life easier. I would personally go with whiteflash bc of their super ideal cut diamonds and great upgrade policy. There is a lot more to choosing a great diamond than just table size and depth, so you want to be sure to get ths best possible cut stone for your budget.


Can you share your total budget for stone and setting?
 
I'm not much of a help right now but I had to stop by and say that your user name is friggin' adorable & Its sweet how tenderly you talk about your soon-to-be beloved. She is a lucky gal no doubt! Plus you came to the right place & are in great hands!

Search when you're up for it & have the energy and if it ever gets mind numbing you take some time to relax and regroup before you come back to the search!

Good luck & I'm sending dust that you find the diamond & setting of her dreams!
 
She fell in love with the knife edge when we stoped by Tiffany. she’s says that she doesn’t have to have Tiffany. i know she has looked at a James Allen but I didn’t particularly like their rendition.

Brian Gavin is another vendor who’s setting that I’ve looked at.

if I could get ring and diamond @ 25K I’m happy.
I just located this diamond:

www.jamesallen.com

2.01 Carat round diamond

This 2.01 carat round diamond F color vs1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA
www.jamesallen.com www.jamesallen.com

and you are right, I’ve just been reading around about diamonds, rings, etc. with this COVID 19 it’s been very difficult to get out and look but I’m now aware that online purchasing is the better way.

I want a round Triple X(cut, symmetry, polish excellent), G and better, VS1 and better, 2 carat.......after that I’m limited, lol
 
ImReady said:
She fell in love with the knife edge when we stoped by Tiffany. she’s says that she doesn’t have to have Tiffany. i know she has looked at a James Allen but I didn’t particularly like their rendition.

Brian Gavin is another vendor who’s setting that I’ve looked at.

if I could get ring and diamond @ 25K I’m happy.
I just located this diamond:

www.jamesallen.com

2.01 Carat round diamond

This 2.01 carat round diamond F color vs1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA
www.jamesallen.com www.jamesallen.com

and you are right, I’ve just been reading around about diamonds, rings, etc. with this COVID 19 it’s been very difficult to get out and look but I’m now aware that online purchasing is the better way.

I want a round Triple X(cut, symmetry, polish excellent), G and better, VS1 and better, 2 carat.......after that I’m limited, lol
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Unfortinately that isn't a well cut stone. GIA XXX isn't enough to guarantee a top performing stone.

Do you need VS1 or above, or do you want an eye clean stone? Because if you want a 2ct (or close to it) top performer itll be easier to find a VS2 or eye clean SI1. Heres an example of a great choice in budget.

Diamond | 1.930 ct G SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4123880

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.930 carat G color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4123880
www.whiteflash.com

Heres a very similar vs2: https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4015037.htm
 
Ps. Sometimes 1.9ct offer great value because they are just under 2ct in weight, but will visually look the same size.
 
Explain “eye clean” to me. Not knowing what it means but I’m wanting something that will maintain its value, beauty, ..........will “eye clean” maintain? I ask because I’m looking for a heirloom. Neither of us has family piece. It’s time!

and 2ct was a request but 1.95 rounds to 2, lol
 
In terms of the diamond she wants 2ct. G, VS, I....... to her that’s google vs internet. She has no clue about it. Lol

Im doing the research so my $$ isn’t wasted and with hopes that my daughter or son can have this piece for themselves and so on.
 
ImReady said:
Explain “eye clean” to me. Not knowing what it means but I’m wanting something that will maintain its value, beauty, ..........will “eye clean” maintain? I ask because I’m looking for a heirloom. Neither of us has family piece. It’s time!

and 2ct was a request but 1.95 rounds to 2, lol
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Sadly diamonds arent an investment, so nothing will maintain its value (unless you're talking about hugely rare stones that are museum quality and 100s of thousands of $). So I wouldn't think about it that way if I were you. But it's all about her preferences. Eye clean will look the same as VS1, VVS1, etc, because you arwnt looking at a diamond via a loup when you look with the naked eye. So I personally wouldn't want to compromise on ct size for a difference I cant see with my eyes alone. But that is definitely a personal preference. If she wants the best performing most sparkly stone, then get her a super ideal cut rather than focusing on VS1 clarity.
 
You are GREAT!

now I am clear and GOOD with “eye clean”.
thank you for the 2 diamond options, between the 2 which would you go with and why?


and not to ask for too much but the tiffany knife edge setting, best option
 
Maytal Hannah is another vendor who makes a Tiffany setting. I have read here that she used to work for Tiffany. Here is a good thread with pictures:

Maytal Hannah Solitaire 6 Prong 1.75ct Whiteflash Diamond

I would like to share my experience with the ring designer Maytal Hannah that I had made on July 2015. Maytal's attention to detail as well as the ability to quickly answer all of my questions have exceeded my expectations. While some designers only work with the diamonds they have in stock...
www.pricescope.com
 
lovedogs said:
I guess the first question to ask is about her preferences. Does she want a tiffany stone/setting? If so, you should buy her that, even if it means a smaller stone.
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Agree with @lovedogs

Please investigate more, OP. In woman-speak, "I don't have to have" is not synonymous with "I don't want." She may want Tiffany and not want to seem demanding since she knows it's expensive. She may very well want both, the larger stone and the Tiffany, but knows the budget doesn't allow it and can't decide in her mind herself. (This happens to me all the time, fwiw.) Or she may genuinely not care. I really, really would give her the choice on such a huge purchase- x size Tiffany or y size great diamond in a similar setting. The element of surprise is not worth getting it wrong.

edit-wrong verbiage
 
Whiteflash has several "Tiffany-inspired" settings. I forget which one is closest to the real Tiffany setting.

Classic Knife Edge Engagement Ring from Whiteflash | 713

Classic Knife Edge Engagement Ring from Whiteflash. A classic design that cuts deep into the heart of love. | 713
www.whiteflash.com

Elegant Classic Solitaire Engagement Ring | 3581

Add a touch of sophistication with the Elegant Classic Solitaire Engagement Ring. Shop now at Whiteflash and celebrate your everlasting love. | 3581
www.whiteflash.com

6 Prong Solitaire Engagement Ring by Vatche | 1779

6 Prong Solitaire Engagement Ring by Vatche. Experience classic elegance with the timeless beauty of the 6 prong solitaire engagement ring by Vatche. | 1779
www.whiteflash.com

You might want to ask WF which one is closest to the real Tiffany setting. Or maybe some folks here know.
 
I always thought the Vatche U-113 was the closest match...but thats just my opinion. Agree that you should try to find out if she has her heart set on a the brand before you make a purchase. Maybe she has a close friend that can help you? One that wont spill the beans?? :)
 
If you want to have a setting custom made, it is possible to copy, exactly, the Tiffany setting because the original Tiffany patent has expired and the setting is now in the public domain.

I bought my super ideal diamond through High Performance Diamonds (HPD) and had a setting custom made that is very close to Tiffany's, the only differences between mine and Tiffany's where ones I specifically asked for. For example, a knife edge looks pretty when looking at the ring from the top, it is painful to many wearers where the knife edge goes between the fingers. So I asked mine be softened (a tweak very commonly ask for.)

Here's an H SI1 that's consistent with your budget, even if you have a Tiffany-style solitaire custom made for it: https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD10797

CBI diamonds are some of the best diamonds you can buy in terms of fire and brilliance. True heirlooms.

Whiteflash ACAs and Brian Gavin's Black line are also awesome.
 
Siamese Kitty said:
Agree with @lovedogs

Please investigate more, OP. In woman-speak, "I don't have to have" is not synonymous with "I don't want." She may want Tiffany and not want to seem demanding since she knows it's expensive. She may very well want both, the larger stone and the Tiffany, but knows the budget doesn't allow it and can't decide in her mind herself. (This happens to me all the time, fwiw.) Or she may genuinely not care. I really, really would give her the choice on such a huge purchase- x size Tiffany or y size great diamond in a similar setting. The element of surprise is not worth getting it wrong.

edit-wrong verbiage
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her preference is 2 carat, knife edge....... that’s it. When we walked into Tiffany she told me she was only looking to get a outline of what she likes but didn’t want a ring from there. oh, she wants it to be beautiful!
 
Good luck and lots of happiness! My husband has a saying: happy wife, happy life :D

So, why not get her what she wants? It seems that she cares about the setting very much (I love Tiffany's setting so I can relate :D) but RunningwithScissors had great suggestions on how you can get that without breaking the bank :) 2 carats should be very possible with a number of vendors and in the long run any extra costs will seem funny to you in 5 years :D Please pay attention to any upgrade policy of the vendor with an eye on the future. The main thing is, you are ready ;) And, hopefully, so is she :) Best of luck to you guys!
 
RunningwithScissors said:
If you want to have a setting custom made, it is possible to copy, exactly, the Tiffany setting because the original Tiffany patent has expired and the setting is now in the public domain.

I bought my super ideal diamond through High Performance Diamonds (HPD) and had a setting custom made that is very close to Tiffany's, the only differences between mine and Tiffany's where ones I specifically asked for. For example, a knife edge looks pretty when looking at the ring from the top, it is painful to many wearers where the knife edge goes between the fingers. So I asked mine be softened (a tweak very commonly ask for.)

Here's an H SI1 that's consistent with your budget, even if you have a Tiffany-style solitaire custom made for it: https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD10797

CBI diamonds are some of the best diamonds you can buy in terms of fire and brilliance. True heirlooms.

Whiteflash ACAs and Brian Gavin's Black line are also awesome.
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RunningwithScissors, did you go with the NY Solitaire or did you ask for HP Diamonds to make it more similar to the Tiffany setting than the NY Solitaire?
 
@OdetteOdile HPD worked off of the proportions of the Tiffany solitaire. If I remember correctly, there were a few things I wasn't crazy about in the NY solitaire (donut too large, etc.).

To any casual observer, my setting probably looks like a hybrid between HPD's Boston and NYC settings. Those two settings and the Tiffany setting are all very closely related. But mine is more similar to Tiffany. I think Layla even called a Tiffany contact of hers and asked about the band width for my size diamond and that's what we went with.
 
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RunningwithScissors said:
@OdetteOdile HPD worked off of the proportions of the Tiffany solitaire. If I remember correctly, there were a few things I wasn't crazy about in the NY solitaire (donut too large, etc.).

To any casual observer, my setting probably looks like a hybrid between HPD's Boston and NYC settings, those two and the Tiffany setting are all very closely related. But mine is closer to Tiffany. I think Layla even called a Tiffany contact of hers and asked about the proportion of the band width to the diamond size and that's what we went with.
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ah - good info. Thanks RWS!
 
I am an HPD customer and I am in the middle of an upgrade. It is a boutique buying experience and they make it tremendously easy to get a beautiful, sparkling diamond.

If you are starting to consider a CBI I would look at one of these I VS stones and maybe go with the NY Classic with the modified smaller "donut". It would be a "1 stop shop" for a super ideal... If your bride to be wants a whiter stone you can always upgrade with a same size whiter stone later.r even larger...




 
lovedogs said:
Unfortinately that isn't a well cut stone. GIA XXX isn't enough to guarantee a top performing stone.

Do you need VS1 or above, or do you want an eye clean stone? Because if you want a 2ct (or close to it) top performer itll be easier to find a VS2 or eye clean SI1. Heres an example of a great choice in budget.

Diamond | 1.930 ct G SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4123880

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.930 carat G color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4123880
www.whiteflash.com

Heres a very similar vs2: https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4015037.htm
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What do you think about this one?

Diamond | 2.068 ct G SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4107634

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 2.068 carat G color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4107634
www.whiteflash.com
 
ImReady said:
What do you think about this one?

Diamond | 2.068 ct G SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4107634

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 2.068 carat G color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4107634
www.whiteflash.com
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I think a WF ACA is a great idea! I would ask them at what distance the stone is eye clean (e.g how many inches away from your face when you look at it). Worth knowing just to be sure. But it will be a gorgeous stone!
 
lovedogs said:
I think a WF ACA is a great idea! I would ask them at what distance the stone is eye clean (e.g how many inches away from your face when you look at it). Worth knowing just to be sure. But it will be a gorgeous stone!
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The 2.068 10 inches on that one

the 1.93 you recommended is 6 inches
 
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DIAMOND INFORMATION
Item Code
CategoryA CUT ABOVE®
ShapeRound
Carat1.930
ColorG
ClaritySI1
Measurements8.01x8.04x4.91 mm

DIAMOND PERFORMANCE
CutIdeal
Light PerformanceIdeal
PolishIdeal
SymmetryIdeal
FluorescenceNegligible
Eye-CleanYes
CuletPointed

DIAMOND SPECIFICATIONS
Depth %61.2
Table %56.0
Crown Angle34.7
Star %50.0
Pavilion Angle40.7
Crown %15.3
Lower Girdle %77.0

does anything stick out that I should be worried about?
 
Talk to Wink at www.hpdiamonds.com and have him get a stone to your specifications. The customer service is second to none. Highly recommend.
 
ImReady said:
1592695847263.jpeg
1592695871388.jpeg
1592695905714.jpeg

DIAMOND INFORMATION
Item Code
CategoryA CUT ABOVE®
ShapeRound
Carat1.930
ColorG
ClaritySI1
Measurements8.01x8.04x4.91 mm

DIAMOND PERFORMANCE
CutIdeal
Light PerformanceIdeal
PolishIdeal
SymmetryIdeal
FluorescenceNegligible
Eye-CleanYes
CuletPointed

DIAMOND SPECIFICATIONS
Depth %61.2
Table %56.0
Crown Angle34.7
Star %50.0
Pavilion Angle40.7
Crown %15.3
Lower Girdle %77.0

does anything stick out that I should be worried about?
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Not at all. Looks amazing! You really cant go wrong with an ACA from whiteflash.
 
Ok, set to purchase Monday

holding out hope for something a little bigger with same quality. There is a limited supply in the 1.95-2.05ct range with G color. I don’t want to let the one I posted get away but darn.
 
ImReady said:
Ok, set to purchase Monday

holding out hope for something a little bigger with same quality. There is a limited supply in the 1.95-2.05ct range with G color. I don’t want to let the one I posted get away but darn.
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This one will face up like a 2ct, so I would worry about size if I were you.
 
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