Help me pick between these two

[xgamesx25]

Hey guys,

I''ve been in the market for the last few months and believe I''ve narrowed down to two diamonds. Please let me know what you think of them.

Option 1
7.03 - 7.07 x 44.4mm
1.35 carat
G color
VS1
Excellent cut, polish, and symmetry
No flourescence
H&A
Depth: 63.0%
Table: 55%
Crown Angle: 35.5
Crown Height: 16.0%
Pavilion Angle: 41.0
Pavilion Depth: 43.5%
Star lenght: 50%
Lower half: 80%
Girdle: Medium to slightly thick, faceted (3.5%)
Culet: No

Option 2
7.22 - 7.24 x 4.39mm
1.40 carat
G color
VS1
Excellent cut, polish, and symmetry
No flourescence
Depth: 60.7%
Table: 58%
Crown Angle: 33.5
Crown Height: 14.0%
Pavilion Angle: 41.0
Pavilion Depth: 43.5%
Star lenght: 50%
Lower half: 80%
Girdle: Medium to slightly thick, faceted (3.5%)
Culet: No

The main difference between option 1 and 2 is that option is a 1.35 carat with H&A while 2 is 1.40 carat without H&A. I''m not too familiar with H&A so I don''t know if it will make a big difference in the diamond. As far as pricing is concerned, the two are fairly closed to each other. Thanks for the help in advance!

 

[stone-cold11]

I would go with option 2 unless I can see the idealscope image of option 1. Also the hearts image, if it is sold as a H&A with the accompanying premium associated with a H&A.

 

[Lula]

Date: 3/23/2010 1:54:33 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
I would go with option 2 unless I can see the idealscope image of option 1. Also the hearts image, if it is sold as a H&A with the accompanying premium associated with a H&A.

+1

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 3/23/2010 1:38:44 PM
Author:xgamesx25
Hey guys,

I've been in the market for the last few months and believe I've narrowed down to two diamonds. Please let me know what you think of them.

Option 1
7.03 - 7.07 x 44.4mm
1.35 carat
G color
VS1
Excellent cut, polish, and symmetry
No flourescence
H&A
Depth: 63.0%
Table: 55%
Crown Angle: 35.5
Crown Height: 16.0%
Pavilion Angle: 41.0
Pavilion Depth: 43.5%
Star lenght: 50%
Lower half: 80%
Girdle: Medium to slightly thick, faceted (3.5%)
Culet: No

Option 2
7.22 - 7.24 x 4.39mm
1.40 carat
G color
VS1
Excellent cut, polish, and symmetry
No flourescence
Depth: 60.7%
Table: 58%
Crown Angle: 33.5
Crown Height: 14.0%
Pavilion Angle: 41.0
Pavilion Depth: 43.5%
Star lenght: 50%
Lower half: 80%
Girdle: Medium to slightly thick, faceted (3.5%)
Culet: No

The main difference between option 1 and 2 is that option is a 1.35 carat with H&A while 2 is 1.40 carat without H&A. I'm not too familiar with H&A so I don't know if it will make a big difference in the diamond. As far as pricing is concerned, the two are fairly closed to each other. Thanks for the help in advance!

The first is rather deep and it also has what we call steep deep crown and pavilion angles, light leakage is a definite possibility which you don't want. I personally wouldn't bother getting images of the hearts and arrows as the overall proportions aren't the best and the depth is too much in my opinion. This can cause a diamond to look small for the weight, this one is facing up a little small for the size.

The second looks much better and has definite potential, . Can you get an Idealscope image of this diamond if it is for sale online please?

As it appears the second diamond isn't a h&a stone then you don't need hearts images, an Idealscope image would be sufficient.

 

[xgamesx25]

Thanks for the feedback so far guys. These two diamonds are local so I don''t have the Idealscope image.

Lorelei - you are correct the second stone is not an H&A stone.

 

[stone-cold11]

Date: 3/23/2010 2:02:36 PM
Author: Lorelei
The first is rather deep and it also has what we call steep deep crown and pavilion angles, light leakage is a definite possibility which you don''t want. I personally wouldn''t bother getting images of the hearts and arrows as the overall proportions aren''t the best and the depth is too much.

Might be a little too harsh?

Maybe just the GIA rounding so I didn''t want to dismiss it outright just basing on the numbers. Could have potential if it has excellent optical symm and the numbers are bad just from the rounding.

 

[xgamesx25]

One thing I left out is that both stones are GIA certified but then again, I''m sure you guys assume that already.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 3/23/2010 2:10:02 PM
Author: Stone-cold11

Date: 3/23/2010 2:02:36 PM
Author: Lorelei
The first is rather deep and it also has what we call steep deep crown and pavilion angles, light leakage is a definite possibility which you don't want. I personally wouldn't bother getting images of the hearts and arrows as the overall proportions aren't the best and the depth is too much.

Might be a little too harsh?

Maybe just the GIA rounding so I didn't want to dismiss it outright just basing on the numbers. Could have potential if it has excellent optical symm and the numbers are bad just from the rounding.

No I don't believe so, especially when there is another stone available that could definitely be better. It is too deep for me in that type of stone and many others as you know and the angle ranges risky.

xgames, are both diamonds with the same jeweller? If so, compare them both if possible under a desk to reduce the lighting and see what happens. There is a possibility the first stone will look like it has shrunk a bit once it doesn't have strong light driving it, its not a perfect test but it is useful especially when you have a potentially better stone to compare with. You could also order an Idealscope if you have time so you can check them out yourself.

 

[xgamesx25]

Lorelei - both stones are with the same jeweler. I''ve actually looked at the first stone already and it was really nice. The second stone is supposed to come in at the end of the week or early next week. I''ve asked the jeweler to hold the first stone so I can compare the second one w/ it. Keep in mind that I''m no expert in this area so i didn''t even notice in terms on size on the first stone until you pointed out (looks smaller for its weight). Both of these stones are priced about $10.5K. I''m thinking that''s a fair price but if not please let me know.

 

[stone-cold11]

ya, price is quite fair considering it is from a brick store.

Good luck in the viewing.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 3/23/2010 3:19:56 PM
Author: xgamesx25
Lorelei - both stones are with the same jeweler. I've actually looked at the first stone already and it was really nice. The second stone is supposed to come in at the end of the week or early next week. I've asked the jeweler to hold the first stone so I can compare the second one w/ it. Keep in mind that I'm no expert in this area so i didn't even notice in terms on size on the first stone until you pointed out (looks smaller for its weight). Both of these stones are priced about $10.5K. I'm thinking that's a fair price but if not please let me know.

Generally prices from jewellery stores are higher than online, so the price seems reasonable as far as can be told. Take a good look at each to compare and see if you can view them away from any bright lighting to give you a better idea when the other one comes in.

 

[Bella_mezzo]

I prefer the second one as well.

 

[xgamesx25]

Thanks guys. I really appreciate all the inputs. I''ll make sure to post pics of the final product.

 

[Stephan]

Ditto Lorelei.
63% depth is too much.
Really.