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Tweety76

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Hi everyone - please help me choose between these two diamonds

GIA Report number: 5182976333
Shape : Round
Carat: 1:00
Color: I
Clarity: VS1
Cut: Excellent
Polish/Symetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None
Comments: Additional clouds not shown. Additional pinpoints not shown
Girdle - Medium to slightly thick
Table: 57%
Depth: 62.1%
Crown Angle: 35.5
Pavillion: 40.6

GIA REport Number: 1263736326
Shape: Round
Carat: 1.00
Color: I
Clarity: VS2
Cut; Excellent
Polish/Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: None
Comments: None
Girdle - Medium to slightly thick
Table: 55%
Depth: 62.9%
CrownAngle: 36.5
Pavillion: 40.6
 
The first one is a better choice because of the crown angle is better. The overall score is a 1.4 on the Hca scale
 
Yes, #1, but it would be best to have the ASET image.
 
Cassie_ann said:
The first one is a better choice because of the crown angle is better. The overall score is a 1.4 on the Hca scale
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Yes - the HCA score is definitely better. My only concern with Diamond #1 is in the comments by GIA - it says additional clouds not shown & additional pinpoints not shown.
 
diamondseeker2006 said:
Yes, #1, but it would be best to have the ASET image.
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That's what I don't have - Diamond # 1 is from Blue Nile and Diamond # 2 from Costco. Both are priced the same.
 
Best is to get like 1.01 or 1.02
Try avoid flat carat size like 1.00 not worth buying.:cool2:
 
Why is that? I paid $6000 for this ring - is it a good price?
 
Tweety76 said:
Why is that? I paid $6000 for this ring - is it a good price?
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Don't listen to the above poster. They have no clue what they're talking about.

It absolutely doesn't matter if it's a "flat carat size." I assume this mis-information is coming from the belief that the cut of some diamonds is compromised to reach the magic price increase points (0.5, 1, 1.5, 2 carat, etc.). For example, if a diamond could be cut with a 35.0 CA and 40.6 PA at .94 carats, or with a 36.5 CA and 41 PA and hit 1 carat, then the cutter will usually go for the 1 carat mark at the expense of cut quality, as the less-well cut 1 carat diamond will still command a market premium over the well-cut .94 carat. There are many ways that a cutter can compromise cut to reach these carat marks (cutting very deep stones, stones with very large tables, etc.), so you just have to be cautious when purchasing around these marks, as there are a lot of badly cut 1 carat diamonds out there.

In this case, the diamond you selected appears to be well cut just judging by the external geometry, so the fact that it's exactly 1 carat makes no difference whatsoever. And saying that a 1.01 diamond with the exact same parameters (depth, table, CA, and PA) would somehow be better than the 1 carat diamond is just about the most asinine thing I've seen posted on this site in quite a while (good for a laugh though :mrgreen:)

Regarding the "clouds not shown" or "additional clouds not shown" comment, this is typically not an issue. This comment just means that the clouds are too small to plot, and it would make the inclusion plot appear worse than it actually is if the grader tried to plot them. The grader includes this comment for completeness, but the clouds do not affect the transparency. Clouds are pretty much never an issue at the VS1 level, so you don't need to worry.

Do you have the link for where it is listed on Blue Nile? By looking at the photos/video we could give you an idea whether the stone is well-cut. :)
 
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Also if you can check the inclusions in the GIA report. Thank you.
 
I think it looks nice from the video on Blue Nile. Seems to have nice, well defined arrows (which is indicative of a well-cut diamond), and the inclusion plot is perfectly fine as well. Nothing to worry about. As I said, the clouds are a non-issue at the VS1 level.

I see nothing wrong with the diamond you selected, and the price seems fair. So great choice! I'm sure it will be beautiful! :)
 
Thank you so much! You have been very helpful - puts my mind at ease!
 
One thing to keep in mind though, it looks like the diamond has more of a brownish undertone to it as opposed to the more commonly seen yellow undertone. Some people really like stones with brown undertones, and they look particularly nice in rose gold settings, but others prefer the yellow undertone in lower colored diamonds. I'm not saying this as a negative (I'm one of those who prefers brown undertones :) ) but it's just something to be aware of so you're not suprised when it arrives. It's kind of difficult to see in videos to the untrained eye, but you may notice it from the side profile when viewing your diamond in person. It will just look more champagne colored as opposed to ivory colored. :)
 
I dont think so this two diamond is a well cut. ;)2
 
The ring did arrive and you are right it does have a brown undertone to it which is why I posted here as I felt that it didn't sparkle as much as I wanted to. I couldn't figure that out myself when I saw the diamond. It is set in platinum. How do you choose a diamond with yellow as opposed to brown undertone by looking at the pictures/videos. Thanks!
 
Tweety76 said:
The ring did arrive and you are right it does have a brown undertone to it which is why I posted here as I felt that it didn't sparkle as much as I wanted to. I couldn't figure that out myself when I saw the diamond. It is set in platinum. How do you choose a diamond with yellow as opposed to brown undertone by looking at the pictures/videos. Thanks!
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The color of the undertone is not going to have an impact on the sparkliness of the diamond. i.e. brown and yellow-undertoned diamonds of the same color will have the same brilliance and scintillation.

If you think the diamond is not white enough, (maybe thats what youre trying to say by not sparkly?) then you may need to go up a few color grades to get what you want. Everyone has different color preferences/tolerances, but as a safe recommendation, it's best to stick to the G-H range for white gold/platinum settings where the side profile is visible.

However, if you're interested in going up to the G-H range, then you'll either need to increase your budget or decrease the size to around .9 carat (I would recommend that latter option. .9 carat diamonds offer great value for your money, as you're not paying the 1 carat premimum dictated by some silly market preference :) ).
 
Tweety76 said:
Thank you for your response. I emailed Blue nile and they sent me two diamonds to choose from which have a excellent light return.

https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD00014381 (1.01-Carat Round Diamond, I, IF)
https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD01206858 (1.07-Carat Round Diamond, I, VS1)

Which do you think is better between these two? Also i would prefer an ivory undertone. I'm unable to figure that out while looking at the videos.

Thanks
Puja
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Both of these have a yellow (ivory) undertone. I would choose the VS1 because it is bigger and is better cut. The IF diamond looks like it has some symmetry issues.
 
Awesome. Thank you :))
 
Blue Nile has sent me 3 more diamonds to confuse me even more. Which ones should I eliminate?
https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD04300871 (VVS1 1.02ct)

https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD08983652 (VVS2 1.07ct)

https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD10011184 (VS2 1.0ct)

And the one shorlisted earilier was:

https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD01206858 (VS1 1.07ct)

Im super confused as the specs looks good so what tools should i use to select one.

Thank you in advance!
 
The 1.07 VS1 is still the best of the bunch. The 1.00 VS2 is not bad either, but it is cut a bit too deep. The 1.07 is almost .3mm larger, so definitely still the way to go. :)
 
Thank you:))
 
TreeScientist said:
The 1.07 VS1 is still the best of the bunch. The 1.00 VS2 is not bad either, but it is cut a bit too deep. The 1.07 is almost .3mm larger, so definitely still the way to go. :)
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Tree is right, the 1.07 is the front runner, the 1.00 VS2 is still a viable proposition, it's around fiery ideal cut range which could be lovely but for a good all rounder, the VS1 is the way to go.
 
Thank you so much...my head is spinning looking at all the diamonds! Will be worth it once the ring arrives. Will post a pic here
 
Best of luck Tweety, it's very exciting and we look forward to seeing the finished result. :wavey:
 
IMG_4118.PNG I ordered the 1.07 last night. While taking a look at the GIA report it says blue Nile on the bottom. Why is that?
 
One more thing - does the date on the GIA report have any significance. This one is dated Nov 1st 2016. Is it too old?
 
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