Help comparing two diamonds please!

[anonmeplox]

Hi All-
Curious to get some other opinions on these two diamonds. I need to make a decision soon.

D-SI1- 1.75 ~ 14000
https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=2171765403

H-VS2-1.74 ~ 9000
https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=13037361

I can afford the D, I just want to make sure it's work 5k more.. I am a VERY untrained eye, but when I viewed them, the only thing I noticed was the color difference. The H looked slightly more yellow. And the D appeared bigger, I guess because of the .4MM difference?

Also, the H-VS2 was in a perm setting and the report is from 2003, so its obviously a "used" diamond, which is fine, but I wish I had a new report issued.

Appreciate the replies.

 

[whitewave]

Do you mind if I ask why these are your two choices?

I don't like #1 because the girdle is thick and color D is frankly overkill. I also don't like the D SI1 combo.

I don't like #2 because it is very good very good for polish and symmetry but H VS2 is a better and more economical value.

I'd like to get the numbers for both: depth and table percent, crown and pavilion angles. Can you call and get those numbers?

I assume these are at a local store?

 

[tyty333]

Unfortunately, numbers are not enough to go on for fancy cut stones like ovals. We need up-close photos...up-close videos are also really nice.
Are you limited to these two? There is a lot of steps between an H and and a D. We can point out something at James Allen that is somewhere
in between those 2 colors.

Maybe something like this? Not sure what your budget is...
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.70-carat-g-color-vs2-clarity-sku-2851005

Edit...others that may be worth taking a look...
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/O180-63Z342105?
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/O170-390574659?

Ovals (fancy cuts) are not like rounds...you have to look for a stone that has a nice faceting pattern and
that looks like it is returning light well. Everything else takes a back seat. There are a lot of well cut
rounds so you can be picky. Not so much with ovals so you cant be as picky about all the details (unless
you have an endless amount of time to get a stone).

 

[SomethingNew]

D is a slightly bigger stone because of a shallower depth, but also because of that, it is more likely to have a bowtie.

H in an oval will definitely show more color than a round shape. You might want to check out some F's and G's first, I'd say neither and just keep shopping.

 

[whitewave]

I totally missed that these are ovals

 

[anonmeplox]

Thanks for the reply's.

Do you mind if I ask why these are your two choices?

I don't like #1 because the girdle is thick and color D is frankly overkill. I also don't like the D SI1 combo.

I don't like #2 because it is very good very good for polish and symmetry but H VS2 is a better and more economical value.

I'd like to get the numbers for both: depth and table percent, crown and pavilion angles. Can you call and get those numbers?

I assume these are at a local store?

Well, its a long story, but basically I have an aunt in the business and she is helping me. The benefits are that I can trust her, and it's a lot less legwork for me (which is important as I don't have a ton of time). Negatives are of course that one I enlisted her help, I kinda have to go with what she thinks. She was looking around a while and came across these two.

Can you explain why a thick girdle is a negative?

The table size and depth percent are in the report I linked. I don't have crown and pavilion. I was under the impression that they don't give those for Oval cuts?

Unfortunately, numbers are not enough to go on for fancy cut stones like ovals. We need up-close photos...up-close videos are also really nice.
Are you limited to these two? There is a lot of steps between an H and and a D. We can point out something at James Allen that is somewhere
in between those 2 colors.

Maybe something like this? Not sure what your budget is...
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.70-carat-g-color-vs2-clarity-sku-2851005

I know numbers are not enough. I've seen them twice, I guess I can go back and take pics/vids.
Sorry if obvious, but what is the advantage of that one you selected over either of the two I have?

 

[LLJsmom]

If that is all you have to go on, I would look at the D first. Since ovals don't sparkle much (compared to MRB, my opinion only) I need to go up in color. But I would never buy without seeing it IRL. I would have to make the bow tie is minor if not non-existent. Have you considered an antique oval? Much less bowtue issue if you find a good one. And way bigger flashes of light.

 

[anonmeplox]

D is a slightly bigger stone because of a shallower depth, but also because of that, it is more likely to have a bowtie.

H in an oval will definitely show more color than a round shape. You might want to check out some F's and G's first, I'd say neither and just keep shopping.

Thanks

If that is all you have to go on, I would look at the D first. Since ovals don't sparkle much (compared to MRB, my opinion only) I need to go up in color. But I would never buy without seeing it IRL. I would have to make the bow tie is minor if not non-existent. Have you considered an antique oval? Much less bowtue issue if you find a good one. And way bigger flashes of light.

I have seen them, I did not notice any noticeable bow-tie in either honestly.

 

[LLJsmom]

Thanks



I have seen them, I did not notice any noticeable bow-tie in either honestly.

Well if you can't see a bow tie and they are both sparkly and these are all you have to choose from I would choose the D. But color is very subjective. Some people aren't very color sensitive at all. Others are. In MRB and ovals, I am very color sensitive and if given the choice with sparkle being equal, i would choose the whiter stone. I also would go for the larger stone. I can see the difference between a H and a D, and I care. Does your intended care? $5k isn't that much more for an increase of 5 grades, and that it's bigger.

 

[anonmeplox]

Well if you can't see a bow tie and they are both sparkly and these are all you have to choose from I would choose the D. But color is very subjective. Some people aren't very color sensitive at all. Others are. In MRB and ovals, I am very color sensitive and if given the choice with sparkle being equal, i would choose the whiter stone. I also would go for the larger stone. I can see the difference between a H and a D, and I care. Does your intended care? $5k isn't that much more for an increase of 5 grades, and that it's bigger.

The D looked more sparkly as well. My GF would probably be very happy with either, btu I'm sure she could see the difference as well. That last line is exactly the kind of info I am looking for. Appreciate the reply.

 

[LLJsmom]

The D looked more sparkly as well. My GF would probably be very happy with either, btu I'm sure she could see the difference as well. That last line is exactly the kind of info I am looking for. Appreciate the reply.

I hesitate to say that because again that is me. I care about color so it would be worth it to me. But not everyone does so it's definitely a function of each person's priorities and budget.

And it goes without saying that the SI1 inclusions should not have any negative impact on the beauty and performance of the stone. I didn't look at the Gia certain in detail.

 

[whitewave]

All things equal, I would choose D over H in an oval.

 

[tyty333]

You have given us nothing to work with...no pics, no vids...I suggested 3 stones that have nice faceting patterns and look to have nice
light return (will be sparkly). If the stones are not cut well and dont reflect light well, the color does not matter (D or H). I personally am
not going to recommend one of your ovals based on color because you haven't given me enough info to work with.

 

[whitewave]

I'm curious if you can tell us why you trust your aunt... I assume she knows what she is doing.... but can we be sure?

 

[anonmeplox]

You have given us nothing to work with...no pics, no vids...I suggested 3 stones that have nice faceting patterns and look to have nice
light return (will be sparkly). If the stones are not cut well and dont reflect light well, the color does not matter (D or H). I personally am
not going to recommend one of your ovals based on color because you haven't given me enough info to work with.

I understand and appreciate all of your input.

I'm curious if you can tell us why you trust your aunt... I assume she knows what she is doing.... but can we be sure?

Shes not a jeweler but has been in the jewelry business for 50+ years. She has gotten a lot of other people in our family rings and they were all happy with the purchase. I can't be sure, but I think there's a good chance she knows what shes doing. Her choice btw is the D.

 

[whitewave]

Don't forget to post hand shots!