HELP! Chunky cushion aset

[VFS_FX]

I don''t know how to read ASETs.. yay or nay?

It''s supposed to be an antique-ish cut...

 

[AprilBaby]

I don''t know but its a pretty picture.

 

[HopeDream]

ASET = Angular Spectrum evaluation tool - It tells you where the diamond is getting it's light from.

The aset shows how a diamond collects and reflects light from different areas in the environment.

Red is best (light coming from above you, and the upper corners of the room is reflected back red this lighe enters the diamond from a slight angle)

Some blue is good for contrast (light coming from directly abve the stone straight down is reflected back blue,i t may be substituted for nicely contrasting head/body shadow when looking at your diamond (your head blocks light coming in directly from above the diamond),

Green is generaly to be avoided (green represents light coming from beside the diamond - great in candle light or firelight (horozontal light sources) but not good in today's modern environments (ceiling lights) a little green is ok, just not too much.

grey/white/balck/other background color (very bad)= light leakage and a less brilliant "greyed-out" looking stone

At the bottom of this page is more information on it with pictures.

This stone is showing a lot of green and some blue but little red, so I'd take a pass I think.

Have you seen it in person ? do you like it ? it definately looks optimized as a candlelight diamond (often done with antique stones)

 

[jet2ks]

Patterning is nice (Always a consideration on antique cuts--is this a true antique or an antique style?)

I''d prefer to see more red, especially from the four mains under the table, but it could still be a very nice stone.

 

[VFS_FX]

I haven''t seen it, I think in order to see it, I''d have to purchase it first since it is in NY and I''m in CA.

Will it be a fireball? I''m not so much concerned with light return as I am interested in a firey stone. It is intended to be an antiquey stone.

Mark said it was an antique styled stone, not a true antique.

 

[jet2ks]

Date: 12/14/2009 5:03:49 PM
Author: VFS_FX
I haven't seen it, I think in order to see it, I'd have to purchase it first since it is in NY and I'm in CA.

Will it be a fireball? I'm not so much concerned with light return as I am interested in a firey stone. It is intended to be an antiquey stone.

Mark said it was an antique styled stone, not a true antique.

If you are referring to Mark at ERD, then I would ask his honest opinion and take what he says--he has an excellent reputation picking out cushions.

 

[Cehrabehra]

it looks a lot like my stone - mine has a little more red and green and less blue - but it looks very similar - the ratio is close and the cut is too - with a stone like this you want to have the pavilion and girdle as unobstructed as possible to get environmental light coming in from all over - in rounds that''s very frowned on, but these cushions have a few bonus tricks up their sleeve that only they can do and they do it when they can pull light in from everywhere - it''s not a conventional way to look at it (the august vintage are more tuned to straight up) but it can be really beautiful nonetheless.

 

[HopeDream]

Mark has an excellent reputation for finding good cushions.

You may have the option of having the stone shipped out to an appraiser in your area so you can evaluate it before buying.
I think it only costs around $200 to have a stone shipped out and back - which is a small price to pay or peice of mind - especialy if you're going to spend a sizeable sum on it .

 

[VFS_FX]

"with a stone like this you want to have the pavilion and girdle as unobstructed as possible"

Are you referring to setting type? The ratio is 1.18

 

[VFS_FX]

"I think this diamond has very good brilliance and would work well in a halo setting.Based on your budget this fits in well. However because we tried to get a 2ct in your budget the color does show up and as a J it is a little warm. Are you ok with this.This is my concern not the brilliance."

mm so it shows up more like a K? It has strong blue fluoro... as far as I''ve read on the forums, this is supposed to help with the face up color?

 

[Lorelei]

Do you have the actual photo of this diamond please?

 

[sweetpea&babycorn]

Date: 12/14/2009 6:47:54 PM
Author: VFS_FX
''I think this diamond has very good brilliance and would work well in a halo setting.Based on your budget this fits in well. However because we tried to get a 2ct in your budget the color does show up and as a J it is a little warm. Are you ok with this.This is my concern not the brilliance.''

mm so it shows up more like a K? It has strong blue fluoro... as far as I''ve read on the forums, this is supposed to help with the face up color?

sounds like he likes how the stone performs, but just wants to caution you about other aspects of it that may bother you, ie the color of the stone. do you want to put the stone in a halo? maybe you should ask what he thinks of the stone if it''s by itself? we got my cushion from mark and he was awesome to work with! you are definitely in great hands
i think ERD does have a refund policy, i think within 2 weeks? if you really want it to be mind clean it would be worth seeing the stone for yourself and then returning it if you don''t like it and starting your search over.

 

[VFS_FX]

pic 1

 

[VFS_FX]

pic 2

 

[ChunkyCushionLover]

Date: 12/14/2009 4:27:28 PM
Author:VFS_FX
I don''t know how to read ASETs.. yay or nay?

It''s supposed to be an antique-ish cut...

VFS_FX,

I gotta say the following:

1) The ASET is poorly taken ask mark to do another one with white background. There is not enough light entering the pavillion of the diamond. You may find the ASET looks much better with a better taken ASET.
2) Judging by the ASET and the photographs the 3 - 9 O''Clock mains look dark and obstructed, while you may get fire from these when the stone is tilted that area will look dark in the faceup position. This is commonly referred to as a bowtie and it is particularly prominent on this stone.
3) The 1 - 6 O''Clock mains may have leakage and/or obstruction and I can''t tell without better photographs and a well taken white background ASET.

Overall I''d say this stone should be average, I''ve seen Mark source much better stones than this one and this is nowhere close to the GOG august vintage stones in terms of light performance.
Talk to Mark about it it seems you are giving up a lot(color and cut) to squeeze a large size stone into your budget.

 

[VFS_FX]

CCL:
Is a bowtie common in a 1.18 ratio?

I have around 10,000$ to spend and the overall look and feel she wants is antique. So the color range is j-k perferrably. I''ve seen the GOG August Cushions, and they feel too contrived for my liking and hers.

 

[Lorelei]

VSF, is it possible you could enlarge the photos please? They are too small for me to see properly, thanks.