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bdimpleson11

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Hello all,

I am very new to diamonds but as I am about to buy an engagement ring I have been trying to learn as much as possible. I have been talking to everyone I can and reading everything possible. Unfortunately, I feel I often get differing opinions or advice. My total budget for ring and diamond is 10,000 and I really just want to get the best round diamond I can. Through my search I have come close to settling on one of two diamonds, each from different sources.

The first is a .91 round, D, eye clean SI1, excellent cut. Excellent polish and symmetry and medium blue fluorescence. $9050.

Depth 61.9%
Table 54%
Crown angle 34 degrees
Pavilion angle 40.8 degrees
No culet
medium - slightly thick girdle

The second is 1.32, D, eye clean SI2, very good cut. Excellent polish and symmetry and no fluorescence. $8500.

Depth 62.2%
Table 59%
Crown angle 35%
Pavilion angle 41.6
No Culet
medium girdle

The 1.32 I have not actually seen for myself but I have been speaking to the vendor extensively. He has many years of experience with the GIA and AGS and assures me the lower cut grade will not affect the diamonds fire or brilliance, at least to the naked eye. I just have concerns when almost everything I read tells me to go for cut first and foremost. HCA also gives it a 5.7 when I use it.

The .91 diamond has a nearly perfect cut and a great 1.1 on HCA, just a little bit smaller for a little more money.

Which of these do you think I should go with to get the best diamond for my money? Also, as a side, both vendors tell me that I will definitely be able to see a difference with a D as opposed to a G, which is what I was thinking about initially.

Thank you so much for any help!
 
bdimpleson11|1375631306|3496397 said:
Hello all,

I am very new to diamonds but as I am about to buy an engagement ring I have been trying to learn as much as possible. I have been talking to everyone I can and reading everything possible. Unfortunately, I feel I often get differing opinions or advice. My total budget for ring and diamond is 10,000 and I really just want to get the best round diamond I can. Through my search I have come close to settling on one of two diamonds, each from different sources.

The first is a .91 round, D, eye clean SI1, excellent cut. Excellent polish and symmetry and medium blue fluorescence. $9050.

Depth 61.9%
Table 54%
Crown angle 34 degrees
Pavilion angle 40.8 degrees
No culet
medium - slightly thick girdle

The second is 1.32, D, eye clean SI2, very good cut. Excellent polish and symmetry and no fluorescence. $8500.

Depth 62.2%
Table 59%
Crown angle 35%
Pavilion angle 41.6
No Culet
medium girdle

The 1.32 I have not actually seen for myself but I have been speaking to the vendor extensively. He has many years of experience with the GIA and AGS and assures me the lower cut grade will not affect the diamonds fire or brilliance, at least to the naked eye. I just have concerns when almost everything I read tells me to go for cut first and foremost. HCA also gives it a 5.7 when I use it.

The .91 diamond has a nearly perfect cut and a great 1.1 on HCA, just a little bit smaller for a little more money.

Which of these do you think I should go with to get the best diamond for my money? Also, as a side, both vendors tell me that I will definitely be able to see a difference with a D as opposed to a G, which is what I was thinking about initially.

Thank you so much for any help!

Hi bdimpleson11!

I am going to disagree with your vendor about the color. Most cannot distinguish a D from a G if all else is equal (cut, angles, etc...) Also, 1.32 ct is A LOT bigger than 0.91 and will by very noticable on her hand.

I think you can do better and you will get a lot of support from PS! :bigsmile:
 
What type of setting do you plan on getting?
 
I am leaning towards a split shank with some smaller diamonds on the side, perhaps in a shared prong style. No halo. I want a little flair on the sides, but for the main focus to be on the main stone. Thank you for the replies already!
 
Any of these would be gorgeous!! (Just have BG verify that they are eye clean)
BTW, GIA and AGS H colors will be white, especially with fluorescence

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond/search-for-diamonds/round

I like these:
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...ls/1.270-f-si2-round-diamond-ags-104064814007
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...1.211-h-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104064812016 Strong Blue fluorescence :))

...in any of these settings ($1500 and under!) -- all in 18K, but you could have BG make in 14K and save a little cash...
I love all of his Tiffany styles (if you like 6 prong) and the Grace & Eternal Grace (4 prong)
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/solitaires/

Hope this helps!! :bigsmile:

EDIT: just saw where you posted you wanted diamonds and split shank... see next post :wavey:
 
bdimpleson11|1375634314|3496410 said:
I am leaning towards a split shank with some smaller diamonds on the side, perhaps in a shared prong style. No halo. I want a little flair on the sides, but for the main focus to be on the main stone. Thank you for the replies already!

For the main stone to be the star, I'd get a dainty band and have the split shanks not be too wide where they meet the basket.

Here are some you may like...

http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER7727W44JJ

http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER6946PT4JJ

http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER6286W44JJ

http://www.whiteflash.com/engagemen...-split-shank-diamond-engagement-ring-2237.htm

http://www.engagementringsdirect.co...o-pave-ribbon-enagement-ring-bpid-150-14.html

http://www.engagementringsdirect.co...ong-solitaire-engagement-ring-bpid-73-14.html

You should contact id jewelry as well.
 
I have been looking around and I really like the look of the split shank Tiffany Lucida band. I agree with the delicate bands to really emphasize the main stone. I also really like both of those Brian Gavin diamonds you mentioned, I was unaware of the that site before now and I will definitely investigate it further.

Would you mind commenting more on the 1.32 carat stone I mentioned earlier? Would you be hesitant about a stone that is "very good" in terms of cut? I really want the diamond to sparkle on my girlfriends hand. Thanks so much for the help!
 
I would not consider the second diamond due to cut or clarity. I would also agree with looking in the F-G-H range to mazimize size and stick with Excellent/Ideal cut first and foremost.

Here are some more superideal cuts all over 1 carat:

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2661539.htm ($8626 with pricescope/wire discounts)

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2684407.htm ($9272 " )

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2813946.htm ($8487 " )

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2909291.htm ($9097 " )

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2890093.htm ($8956 " )
 
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