- Sep 20, 2008
The old mantra on this forum is "trust but verify," when it comes to any reputable vendor. They should also have an iron clad return policy.
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Isn't the point of this forum to educate consumers? I guess I have a low tolerance for gossip so upon further reflection I find this kind of irritating.Threads like this leave a bad taste in my mouth.
“I know a vendor is being dishonest. I’m not going to say who.”
Who’s that helping? Do you want people to continue to buy from them?.
I totally get what you mean and I for one appreciate the fact you started this thread. Before "outing" a vendor for potentially deceitful behavior, you're taking the temp/pulse of this informed group to see if others have had the same sense. If not, of course you want to keep it to yourself - don't blame you at all and think you are being diplomatic by not starting a war unnecessarily.Yeah... I won't be naming the vendor because it's pretty clear from my opening post, I'm asking whether I am going mad and imagining this previously "good" vendor outright lying now a days... or if it's really happening and others have noticed it too.
Seeing as it's a vendor at least 50% of pricescope probably visit everyday.. I was sure at least someone (heck I thought everyone would) have been saying things like "OH I know who you mean....". It hasn't happened and I'm not going to slate or accuse someone when all I have is my own feelings.
The regulars here know I'm not much about making friends or wanting to stay out of hot water... I'm in hot water most days of my life and it's a good thing I don't crave social validation. I just won't name the vendor as I don't know if they are beginning to lie or I'm being sensitive to "sales pitch".
Its been said, trust but verify. Even on the diamond board that mantra rings true. I will never BLINDLY trust any vendor. Even the good ones have made mistakes. How they correct those mistakes when they happen is what I concentrate mostly on. It separates a great vendor from one thats not so great.I understand the OP's reluctance to out the vendor. It is however, still very frustrating to those of us not experts with coloured stones. Ask me about diamonds, I can tell you tons, but ask me about coloured stones & the conversations comes to a dead stop. I've always asked the vendors I've dealt with, what do you think, is this a keeper or not. And I go by their recommendations. If of course I'm serious about something I would post here but in truth, I've added to my diamond collection because it's just easier & less frustrating. Seems like there are less games or hurdles in the diamond realm. I would love to know who this is because I most likely have asked "you really think this stone is ok, no extinction?" If you do eventually decide to name the vendor, I will be reading this thread with definite interest. I'm looking at buying an expensive red spinel. I hope I'm not choosing to spend thousands with the person you are talking about.
Edited to ad...now that you have spread the sead so to speak, I'm now questioning everyone on the Vendors list. Maybe I need to hit up Instagram & find a new vendor. Sad about that because it was at one point, the vendor list was our way of at least starting a trusting relationship with. **sigh** I'll start a wtb thread.
“SILENCE! A message from the king! A message from THE KIIIIING!!”I wasn’t aware we elected a president of colored stones. Should we e-mail you prior to starting threads to be sure of your approval?
MarymmYeah, OP, the title of this thread is "Has a well known vendor started LYING?" ... which to my mind does not jibe with your elaborative posts in this thread which seem to waffle about whether you are interpreting words and photos correctly.
If you believe a well known vendor has started lying to the point where you will create a thread with that exact title, personally as a PS member with roots in CS I am troubled by the fact you are purposefully posting about the lying so that you are protecting the vendor at the expense of your fellow PSers - your decision to post in this way is disappointing and more significantly frustrates the principles of this consumer board.
About the list, and I think many people overlook this, not all the vendors on there are beloved and respected by everyone here. They are recommended by some, but it is very important to research each vendor on that list here and elsewhere. I don't know if people read the disclaimer at the top of that list, but they should.I feel like this is stoking paranoia. I see plenty of things I don't necessarily agree with, but the role of this forum is to provide people with enough information so that they can make their own informed decision. Buy what you love, not what the sales pitch promises you will love.
I really don't want to see the recommended vendors list tampered with -- it is important not to let us all willy nilly tamper with that list.
It is hard to get onto that list, and there has to be a general consensus and multiple strikes to get yourself removed. The only people who edit it are established members with many years and 1000s of posts to CS. This helps make the list robust against being hijacked for personal gain.
- Firstly for the integrity of the list -- if we compromise the guidelines governing how it can be updated then it will become less reliable into the future. What if this update improves it, but sets a precedent for someone else to change it for self promotion purposes later?
- Secondly for the vendors who rely on traffic from this website for revenue and who turn out to be completely innocent.
HindsightThis thread has really bothered me. I came here to learn and to find trustworthy vendors. I fully understand that descriptions are subjective, but as a newbie, I was under the impression that vendors are on the list because they are honest and knowledgeable. I get the whole "due diligence" thing, but a certain level of confidence I had in vendors is now confusion and suspicion.
It would have been waaaay more helpful to post pictures of the stones you are referring to, then ask for opinions. You'd know if it was your imagination, monitor, etc., or if you are correct in your concerns. Plus, perhaps we could all learn something.
Please don't think I was dumping on TRS. I was basically explaining my paranoia. It's so hard to have some confidence about CS and to post on a forum, but I've found everyone here to be very supportive. Some people just like to get worked-up and need controversy.Don’t think it’s helpful to dump on trs. The message is to be vigilant. I second TL about the list; sounds like some people should read the disclaimer re the venders.
MrsKMB: I'm sorry if it sounded like I was addressing it to you - I was not, just my general comments based on the totality of comments.Please don't think I was dumping on TRS. I was basically explaining my paranoia. It's so hard to have some confidence about CS and to post on a forum, but I've found everyone here to be very supportive. Some people just like to get worked-up and need controversy.
I love when people explain things here with pictures, though. It really helps me learn, and I don't have to Google every new term!